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debbie downer over here.

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I too found in my gym a guy today that was staring at me in the gay club last saturday...he is ripped but has no legs... so mmh....

I have basically found not a single ripped guy with good legs, at least where I live, it does get pretty ridiculous at some points, you wonder how they stay straight without falling.


if you're 21 and looking for something serious you're out of luck. Your problem isn't that you're 35, it's that they're 21. I can count the well adjusted, 'mature' 18-22 year olds I know on one hand.

hehe pretty much what I wanted to say, if anything I doubt anyone is (or was) prepared for a serious "mature" relationship at 21.
 
I'm 20 and I'd like to consider myself serious about relationships and don't want to fuck around nor deal with petty shit.

Maybe I'm an anomaly.
 
if you're 21 and looking for something serious you're out of luck. Your problem isn't that you're 35, it's that they're 21. I can count the well adjusted, 'mature' 18-22 year olds I know on one hand.
Aren't you in the 18-22 group yourself?
 
if you're 21 and looking for something serious you're out of luck. Your problem isn't that you're 35, it's that they're 21. I can count the well adjusted, 'mature' 18-22 year olds I know on one hand.

Preach.

Doesn't mean you can't have a serious relationship, it just means that the chances of a 21 yo and 35 yo being at the same stage in their life is slim.
 
if you're 21 and looking for something serious you're out of luck. Your problem isn't that you're 35, it's that they're 21. I can count the well adjusted, 'mature' 18-22 year olds I know on one hand.
I've found "older" men (relative to me, so 30+) to be less interested in something serious. But maybe that's a type of person who was the same in their 20s and have merely become adept at what they do. Also seem to be the only age group I seem to attract...
 
if you're 21 and looking for something serious you're out of luck. Your problem isn't that you're 35, it's that they're 21. I can count the well adjusted, 'mature' 18-22 year olds I know on one hand.

:( This is so true. I guess I'd consider myself an exception (not in that I'm super mature or anything) because I would rather be involved in something serious than just having a fuck buddy, although I wouldn't mind that, obviously.
 
Why do you need a date?

i don't really think i need one, although it does make you assess where you are somewhat

i'm not hurting/jealous or anything, just wish i was more active and effective at meeting new people and potential interests. without work or education, that has become increasingly difficult

it's a she btw, and we're on good terms so i hope she doesn't contract herpes for all our sakes :¬)
 
i don't really think i need one, although it does make you assess where you are somewhat

i'm not hurting/jealous or anything, just wish i was more active and effective at meeting new people and potential interests. without work or education, that has become increasingly difficult

it's a she btw, and we're on good terms so i hope she doesn't contract herpes for all our sakes :¬)

I'd suggest joining an activities group if you're into that stuff. I dont like doing stuff in winter so I'm not even sure if they operate all year. *shrug*
 
Preach.

Doesn't mean you can't have a serious relationship, it just means that the chances of a 21 yo and 35 yo being at the same stage in their life is slim.

I've said the same thing here before and had the flames sear my opinion to silence. Perhaps I need to be more eloquent

Speaking of age difference, my current guy is in his 40's, and I'm 34. Nice to connect with someone in a similar place in life with experiences to relate to.
 
Ice cold.



Yoku dekimashita!

That's all I got. Where do you live? France as well?

heh, hontou arigatou gozaimasu, and no, I live in the US, very far from him unfortunately, but like I said, there's a possibility he's going to come study here in the US as an exchange student! I hope he does
 
Speaking of age difference, my current guy is in his 40's, and I'm 34. Nice to connect with someone in a similar place in life with experiences to relate to.

Hey me too. Im basically the same age as you and SO the same age. And for the record I'm more a top than a bottom, although he provides most of the income in the household.

I've generally gone for older people though. Many times 10 years older than me. I've never understood why people clock to 21 year olds. I guess people on an established career path attract me. I was in pretty dire financial straights until recently so financial stability was also attractive.

Prob the thing I like most though is that he genuinely cares about me. Even when I get sick of him and think 4 years of this has been enough, the idea of not having someone to care about me unconditionally essentially keeps me here.
 
Just to clarify something here, I wasn't talking about gay stereotypes.

I agree with you, I'm kind of surprised this is controversial. People in their early twenties aren't really in the position to know who they are yet. They may have a very good idea but just the amount of experience that has so far been available to them in combination with the opportunities opening up to them makes that kind of unrealistic, and it isn't really a criticism because the opposite situation could probably be considered self-limiting in most situations. A person can maybe have a serious relationship at a younger age but then the meaning of a serious relationship probably means something a little different than it would to an older person.
 
Can somebody buy me a KitchenAid Pro mixer? I'll do anything you want.

If you find someone willing to buy expensive kitchen appliances for sexual favours, let me know. I too want a good mixer (i'm in a bread-making obsession right now and a dough hook would make my life so much easier) but they're so expensive.
 
Am I the only gay person who finds the "gay scene" fucking disgusting? My brother was telling me about it in detail and it's sounds really gross. He kept telling me about all these hook ups he had (which surprised me a bit because he's obese). I told him that sounds really gross and probably not safe. He called me a loner and homophobic when I called out him out on that fact that he seems sleazy.
 
Your brother is gay?

And I'm not a fan of the gay scene at all, never have been.
Yeah we're both gay. I can't tell him though because he'll threaten to tell my father and use the information to his advantage. My dad has many times now stated his hatred for gay people and he'd without a doubt kick me out if he found out. My brother's living with his "boyfriend" (open relationship clearly) most of the time so if need be he could just move out instantly. I'm poor and still in school (I will be soon at least) so I can't afford to live on my own.
 
Am I the only gay person who finds the "gay scene" fucking disgusting? My brother was telling me about it in detail and it's sounds really gross. He kept telling me about all these hook ups he had (which surprised me a bit because he's obese). I told him that sounds really gross and probably not safe. He called me a loner and homophobic when I called out him out on that fact that he seems sleazy.

What made it disgusting? Was he not using protection or something?

Also random hook ups isn't exclusive to gay people.
 
Going to bars and hooking up with people isn't the gay scene. Straight people do it too. And you don't have to go to gay bars/clubs and hook up. You can go, have a drink, dance, and generally have a lovely time. There are different kinds of bars and if you don't go to the one with the backroom then it doesn't have to be gross and disgusting.
 
I'm in general not good at large loud bars. Something more intimate is better in my eyes. As far as the gay scene It's hit or miss with me. I'm not into hook ups so thats out..
 
Going to bars and hooking up with people isn't the gay scene. Straight people do it too. And you don't have to go to gay bars/clubs and hook up. You can go, have a drink, dance, and generally have a lovely time. There are different kinds of bars and if you don't go to the one with the backroom then it doesn't have to be gross and disgusting.

My issue has always been the atmosphere and the type of people that go there. If I go with a group of friends on occasion, I don't mind. I would rather go to a concert or show and drink with that type or crowd. That's more my scene.
 
See I think I like hanging at maybe a nice little place with a group of friends and read books and such while we talk about them. Then we go and watch a movie or something..I feel like if i had a real life friend circle we'd be kinda boring XD
 
I wouldn't call it disgusting, but the potential for drama (after having had more than my share in younger years) makes me weary. After certain events, I tend to not trust gay/bi men.

Thankfully, we've found two good bars within walking distance of where we live, both of which show sports (football and soccer especially), serve damn good po-boys, aren't too smoky, have a really mixed/liberal crowd, etc. One's better suited for a more quiet eat-at-the-bar/watch-the-game visit, while the other one is more suited for rowdy/raucous/rollicking sports viewing, like Sunday/Monday Night Football, World Cup, etc.

Assuming we never move from this area, we're set on bars. Thank god.
 
I'm in general not good at large loud bars. Something more intimate is better in my eyes. As far as the gay scene It's hit or miss with me. I'm not into hook ups so thats out..

I'm more of a pub person. Course, I'm not a fan of the music played at clubs, find large crowds obnoxious, hate second hand smoke and was never a fan of the type of people that congregate at those places in the first place.

But yeah, flings/hook-ups is most definitely not an exclusively "gay" thing. It's a bar thing. I've only ever gone to non-gay bars and it's always a bunch of people on the prowl.
 
. He kept telling me about all these hook ups he had (which surprised me a bit because he's obese)

A little offended at that but yeah, fat boys get lovin' too. All sorts of gentleman callers are still after my milkshakes :-P

And hookups are universal.
 
I'm 20 and I'd like to consider myself serious about relationships and don't want to fuck around nor deal with petty shit.

Maybe I'm an anomaly.

Definitely not! I've been with my boyfriend for 11 years, and we started dating when i had just turned 17. We were just so god damned similar in so many ways and interests that we've always stuck toether through everything. (Though we certainly have some differences, which is important.)

Recently I've been struggling with how to address something else kind of related to this. While I've always been out and never ashamed of who I am, sometimes I'm a little unclear of how to answer certain questions at work when it comes to kids. (I work with children.) Every once in a while I get the "do you have a girlfriend?" question and laugh and say no. If they press any further I say I have a partner, though I hate that term and it's generic, clinical soundingness. Sometimes I think they just don't understand what i mean, and I feel a disservice is being done to them when I should be educating. It's weird for me to feel this nervousness, probably due to it being related to my job. I have nothing to fear about it, as I live in Mass and we have anti-LGBT discrimination laws, but what is stopping me from just saying I'm gay, or have a boyfriend? Is there some weird middle school fear of telling people my sexuality coming into play here? The other day an older kid asked, and I flat out said that I was gay and lived with my boyfriend, so I guess that's progress. Does anyone else here have similar experiences or advice on handling it?
 
Definitely not! I've been with my boyfriend for 11 years, and we started dating when i had just turned 17. We were just so god damned similar in so many ways and interests that we've always stuck toether through everything. (Though we certainly have some differences, which is important.)

Recently I've been struggling with how to address something else kind of related to this. While I've always been out and never ashamed of who I am, sometimes I'm a little unclear of how to answer certain questions at work when it comes to kids. (I work with children.) Every once in a while I get the "do you have a girlfriend?" question and laugh and say no. If they press any further I say I have a partner, though I hate that term and it's generic, clinical soundingness. Sometimes I think they just don't understand what i mean, and I feel a disservice is being done to them when I should be educating. It's weird for me to feel this nervousness, probably due to it being related to my job. I have nothing to fear about it, as I live in Mass and we have anti-LGBT discrimination laws, but what is stopping me from just saying I'm gay, or have a boyfriend? Is there some weird middle school fear of telling people my sexuality coming into play here? The other day an older kid asked, and I flat out said that I was gay and lived with my boyfriend, so I guess that's progress. Does anyone else here have similar experiences or advice on handling it?
I have the same hesitation here in Louisiana after a long time, especially with older patients/colleagues. I'll say I'm married and speak of in-laws, but avoid the topic just because I'm too damn lazy to deal with it. My boss and co-workers all know, so it isn't a fear of job loss issue.. more just not wanting to bother with it. *shrug*
 
BeesEight said:
I'm not a fan of the music played at clubs, find large crowds obnoxious, hate second hand smoke and was never a fan of the type of people that congregate at those places in the first place.
This so much. Yuck. Have never been to a gay one, but it seems they're just as awful as regular ones. Not liking clubbing is such a big handicap for meeting guys, though, which sucks.
 
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