December Comic |OT| Apocalypse NOW - Time Enough At Last.

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Acid08 said:
lol this thread went cray cray.

But for real Slott, leave
MJ
alone :(. Not liking that stuff at all.
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Marvel double shipping shit = more opportunities for marvel zombies to lose their shit every month!

DC needs to step up their game. Fire more women and minorities via email, or make Supergirl a transgender Mon-el!

Come on, lets crash this school bus into a volcano already people!
 
BND was all over the place quality wise, there were arcs I really disliked, but for the most part I disliked the first year of it. The latter half had more arcs I enjoyed, Origin of the Species excluded. What the hell was that?
 
Nils said:
BND was all over the place quality wise, there were arcs I really disliked, but for the most part I disliked the first year of it. The latter half had more arcs I enjoyed, Origin of the Species excluded. What the hell was that?
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I appreciate a lot of the artistic risks Wacker takes with ASM, but saddling Mark Waid with Paul Aztecta did him no favors
 
Waid was great and Kelly was probably the strongest overall, but Zeb Wells with Chris Bachalo did the straight up best story with SHED. Slott actually put out some solid stuff during BND, too.
 
Supermanisdead said:
because electro is cooler and we should be supporting colourblind casting for characters who's race/ethnicity isn't a major theme
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Not in my opinion. Race swapping in a visual medium is beyond stupid. I'm all for heroes and villains of all colors and creeds, but either use established ones, or create new ones for fuck's sake.
 
Everyone's out of character just so Slott can write his story.

- Spider-Man should have contacted the Avengers for his first move.

- Spider-Man should have known Ock's plans and countermeasures, having his memories, and Ock should have known nothing of Parker's, being that he's on the reactive

- MJ should have realized something is wrong (guess she doesn't know Peter at all), as should Aunt May (poisoning Chameleon, anyone)?

- Carlie should have been more suspicious

- Also, Peter could have mentioned fucking anything besides his secret identity. Is that the only special thing you shared? Fuck.
 
New Uncanny X-Force interview at Marvel.com

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Spike Spiegel said:
Hard to say. I like to think I've been pretty indifferent about Spider-Man comics since I walked away during the whole "Sins Past" fiasco, and I still didn't like the way ASM #700 went down.
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I honestly don't know why people are up in arms about this, the story to me isn't that good but it's hard to care because I know everything is going to be restored to the status quo either in a couple of months or at the latest six months before the new movie comes out.
 
the chris said:
I honestly don't know why people are up in arms about this, the story to me isn't that good but it's hard to care because I know everything is going to be restored to the status quo either in a couple of months or at the latest six months before the new movie comes out.
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I dropped off ASM probably like, two issues into Big Time but the only real objectionable thing in 700 and Superior as I understand it is
MJ if Slott chooses to go down that route
. That's admittedly a really horrifying prospect but other than that? It's an interesting idea that's been done poorly.
 
Spiderman is still cool to me. I'm enjoying the ride for what it is: a superhero story where the villain has won and everything will get worse and worse until somehow our friendly neighbourhood spiderman wins.

I mean, after what Doc did, don't you want to see spiderman punch him in his old face?
 
So this week I can expect Uncanny X-Force #35 and #1? That would be awesome. I saw #1 at the comic book shop last week in a box.

P.S. Remender is now up there with Morrison and Claremont for best X stories.
 
Fantomex said:
So this week I can expect Uncanny X-Force #35 and #1? That would be awesome. I saw #1 at the comic book shop last week in a box.

P.S. Remender is now up there with Morrison and Claremont for best X stories.
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Cable and X-Force #1 came out last week, the relaunched Uncanny isn't until January.
 
Supermanisdead said:
Nope, it's just Uncanny #35. The new series starts Jan. 16 according to that article above. But if your LCS has it, beg for it and give me spoilers :p
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I tried and they we're like NO

But to more important matters, Marvel sucks at offing characters. They think killing off main characters sells, but that's bologna. They just need great death moments with even secondary characters or villains. I mean Aries dying was cool as well as Goliath. I'd like to nominate a couple of characters to be killed next year with some reasoning.

Mystique - she's no longer mysterious or a good villain. Nothing of interest, how many times can she be behind plots and not get offed?

Sabretooth -now that you know what to do Wolverine go ahead and do it. This dudes died or been restored dozens of times. In the end he's just a thug with claws that shares a past with wolverine.
 
Finished Judas Coin.

As much as I enjoy Simonson, that was a pretty rough read.

Felt more like DC letting Simonson inadvertently keep trademark and copyrights on old ass characters nobody gives a fuck about dusted off than a legitimate good story. :\
 
Just finished my December order form for Previews, and only three double-shipping books on my list! Hooray!

Hellboy in Hell
Conan the Barbarian
The Rocketeer: Hollywood Horror
Uncanny X-Men (double-ship)
Uncanny Avengers
New Avengers
Avengers (double-ship)
Young Avengers
Indestructible Hulk
Journey Into Mystery
Thor: God of Thunder
Captain America
All-New X-Men
Daredevil
Hawkeye
Punisher War Zone
Wolverine and the X-Men
X-Factor (double-ship)

When is Rucka's book from Image supposed to be out? March?
 
Machine said:
On the other hand, I became reluctant to support most indie, creator-owned stuff years ago. Why? Broken promises and unfinished stories. I have been collect a LONG time and I have long boxes full of comics that started full of promise and potential that were abruptly cancelled mid-story and never gave any sense of closure. You get burned enough and you eventually become risk averse in that regard.
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Time is running out, and I owe you a "serious" reply.

I'd love to see Marvel and DC get folded into Disney and Warner proper, just absorb the IP's and restructure the comic book end to function like a book publisher. No more asking the talent to grab ankle and fork over 100% of the rights to everything.

Just publish the books, and treat the talent fairly.

I can't blame indie creators for falling off because comics are a shitty business. You're not going to get rich, much less break even on your book.

It's why I make allowances for a guy like Ken Garing on Planetoid. He may not see any decent money until the book gets traded, if that.

Comic books as a career is just as shitty, hand-to-mouth a lifestyle as working at a fast food chain. Only the fast food chain may have some employee benefits package you can buy into.

I'm not 100% informed on how book publishing works, and I could be completely wrong; but I have the impression book publishers aren't nearly as shit and greedy as the Big Two. They control the lion's share of the market and their bad business practices make the entire industry march to the beat of a retarded drummer with no rhythm.

So I can understand being salty about books getting dropped, and creators needing to leave their books behind to go work at a video store in order to provide for and raise their families; but what we as fans need to demand is change.

Change in the shitty business practices that have existed since the 30's.

Change in how the medium is perceived. Comics are still an entertainment ghetto.

It doesn't need to be, and the biggest shame is the medium is losing it's best talent to film, video games, and animation because that's where unions, pay checks, and health care are at.

We need to ditch this mentality of "comic artists just need to starve", because comics aren't fine art - in which starvation is a prerequisite, comics are commercial art. Other commercial industries are profiting from the talent this industry drives away.

I want to be able to walk into a comic shop and buy a fuckin' new Keron Grant comic man!

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Don't you?
 
Acid08 said:
Perfect time to start picking up Frankenstein!

Batwoman tho. Batman tho. Aquabrah tho.
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right now i'm picking up:

Action Comics -dropped with morrison's last issue #17
Animal Man - dropped after 17 along with Swampy out of Rotworld anger
Aquaman
Batman
Batwoman - probably dropped after 17
Batman Inc - way behind reading it, haven't started from the new #1 onward, but i liked the first 10 issue run
Demon Knights
Dial H - only read the first 4 issues and was crazy so i'm accumulating issues Morning Glories style
Justice League
Green Lantern - non-stop events with books i don't read....
JL Dark
Swampy
Wonder Woman

Out of all those i'm fully behind Wonder Woman, i've read up to issue 12, and possibly JL Dark. The rest.....
 
sillymonkey321 said:
right now i'm picking up:

Action Comics -dropped with morrison's last issue #17
Animal Man - dropped after 17 along with Swampy out of Rotworld anger
Aquaman
Batman
Batwoman - probably dropped after 17
Batman Inc - way behind reading it, haven't started from the new #1 onward
Demon Knights
Dial H - only read the first 4 issues and was crazy so i'm accumulating issues Morning Glories style
Justice League
Green Lantern - non-stop events with books i don't read....
JL Dark
Swampy
Wonder Woman

Out of all those i'm fully behind Wonder Woman, i've read up to issue 12, and possibly JL Dark. The rest.....
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Why is that?

I'm also going to stop buying Action Comics monthly at 17. Might do a trade down the road if it ends up being decent.
 
Acid08 said:
Why is that?

I'm also going to stop buying Action Comics monthly at 17. Might do a trade down the road if it ends up being decent.
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Just a general lack of enthusiasm for the title when i try to read it. Getting through the last issue, 14 i think, where the first few pages were just Batwoman going over the scars of a person made me put the book down. I didn't like the first four issues of the series when it was focused on the missing kids, then i thought it picked up a bit when more characters were introduced, but at around 10 onward i lost interest again. I thought the Wonder Woman crossover and J H Williams back on the art would pick things up but i still didn't really like it.
 
sillymonkey321 said:
Let's recommend Spike some DC books to read.

I can't think of any.
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Wonder Woman. Best DC book. One of the best books, period.
I Vampire. Second best and NO ONE READS IT. Destined for the shitbin (and probably cancellation) without Sorrentino.
Aquaman. Awesome first year. Atlantis crossover could go either way.
Demon Knights. Demons Vs. Dinosaurs, sorcery, Vandal Savage. A+ book.

Anybody can read any of those and not even have to worry about greater DC continuity.
 
Deified Data said:
Cyborgs and space pirates? Sounds good - I'll definitely look into it. What's its release schedule?
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Three issues are out. I believe he's doing minis, with the first perhaps being four issues. I was really really impressed, and as much as I love Saga's world building, I think this may work on more levels so far. Big words there, but I really believe in it.


TTOB here turned me on to it, and may know more about the schedule/plan.
 
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