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NRA blames media, violent video games for violent culture

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All these interest groups pointing fingers. To me it's just that the US has a violent culture. All facets of our entertainment have large amounts of violence, and we are at war constantly.
 
did kindergarten killer make any sort of splash when it came out? playing the start it is disgusting of course, but obviously it's not real and is creative speech... there's even a story and such. tasteless for sure, but i guess it's up to the hosting website to figure out if they want to host it or not.

love that it was a "trump card" moment... "behold this sick filth!" lol.
 
Why do you need to hunt? I'm assuming since you have internet you live in a modern society and not somewhere in the Amazon.

Because perhaps that individual would prefer the vastly more humane and natural way of procuing their meat than merely driving to the supermarket to pick up some factor farm-processed product.

In fact, I'd argue that hunting your own meat is a "morally superior" means of being a carnivore than picking it up at the supermarket or butcher's shop.
 
All these interest groups pointing fingers. To me it's just that the US has a violent culture. All facets of our entertainment have large amounts of violence, and we are at war constantly.

Yea and other countries don't play video games or watch movies either. But please, enlighten us on how superior Japanese tentacle rape porn is to the US culture as a whole.

EVERYONE is fucked up. Quit trying to act like the US is the ONLY fucked up country.
 
Because perhaps that individual would prefer the vastly more humane and natural way of procuing their meat than merely driving to the supermarket to pick up some factor farm-processed product.

In fact, I'd argue that hunting your own meat is a "morally superior" means of being a carnivore than picking it up at the supermarket or butcher's shop.

It's not about morals, it's about being an evolved human being. You may as well carry a club around and bop other people on the head while grunting if you feel the need to hunt for your food in the year 2013. Do you ride a horse to work too because it's better for the environment?
 
I am seeing growing momentum for a national, federal licensing and registration of firearms. I hope we get AT LEAST that, PLUS mandatory liability insurance, PLUS a complete ban on sale of high capacity magazines and non-hunting semi-automatic rifles (ideally, I'd prefer all semi-automatic rifles and handguns to be banned, but I don't see that happening).

The NRA position is that we all essentially live in constant fear, and have guns everywhere. Why stop at schools? What about malls, movie theaters, Congressional gatherings - where does it end? Every place a crowd gathers will be patrolled by heavily armed police? What kind of country do we want to live in?

Because perhaps that individual would prefer the vastly more humane and natural way of procuing their meat than merely driving to the supermarket to pick up some factor farm-processed product.

In fact, I'd argue that hunting your own meat is a "morally superior" means of being a carnivore than picking it up at the supermarket or butcher's shop.

True story. I don't always eat meat, but when I do, I eat hunted venison.
 
Also, they never fail to leave the impression that they REALLY enjoy these shootings. Free publicity and a great opportunity to whip folks into a frenzy, make them feel hateful and victimised for owning the sort of armoury no well-balanced person ever could.
 
It's not about morals, it's about being an evolved human being. You may as well carry a club around and bop other people on the head while grunting if you feel the need to hunt for your food in the year 2013. Do you ride a horse to work too because it's better for the environment?

And now you're just trolling with that opinion. Fuck right off with that.
 
It was awfully decent of them to give Bulletstorm free publicity. That game doesn't get enough love.

Incidentally, if violent media caused violence, assault and murder should be a lot more common than they are, considering the enormous audiences for mature-rated media. Also, we should expect to see a nationwide spike in violent crime every time a new James Bond or Call of Duty is released. Does anyone remember the great Rambo murder wave of 1982? How about all the stabbing sprees and blood orgies in the streets of major US cities when Spartacus: Blood and Sand was on TV? That's because they didn't happen.
 
The whole thing was bizarre. You could tell that they were trying to be very careful with the games that they picked. That's why we see Splatterhouse and MK. Both of those games make very little use of guns, they're more about violence done through hand to hand combat or with random objects/weapons.
Doesn't the gun industry get licensing money from games that has "real" guns in them?
 
So we shouldn't blame the gun, but its okay to blame video games and movies?

I wonder if the President of the NRA thought we should have banned dogs after the Son of Sam killings?
 
It's not about morals, it's about being an evolved human being. You may as well carry a club around and bop other people on the head while grunting if you feel the need to hunt for your food in the year 2013. Do you ride a horse to work too because it's better for the environment?
You sound completely out of touch with people who hunt. And I don't mean that as in, "you're more evolved," either. (note: I myself have never been hunting and have no desire to hunt)
 
What's wrong with hunting?

Nothing.

Hunting is a perfectly valid reason to own a gun, provided you've registered your weapon with the state and have passed hunting/firearm safety courses. And before anyone else chimes in, you don't need automatic or semi-automatic weapons to hunt.

Agreed

Grandfather in what's already out there and then ban the sale going forward.

Nope, make the ownership of assault rifles and other such weapons illegal wholesale; turn 'em in to be disposed of. Ownership moving forward should be on a case-by-case basis and you have to provide damn good evidence as to why you need to continue owning such weaponry.
 
Because perhaps that individual would prefer the vastly more humane and natural way of procuing their meat than merely driving to the supermarket to pick up some factor farm-processed product.

In fact, I'd argue that hunting your own meat is a "morally superior" means of being a carnivore than picking it up at the supermarket or butcher's shop.

I don't eat meat, and I agree with this. I dislike hunting intensely, but it is far more palatable than factory farming. I certainly don't think poorly of people who hunt for food.

Anyway, normal, non-crazy hunting weapons aren't a huge problem as far as I'm concerned. If only the kooks saw it that way.
 
they are right about the media. We cover these psychos so much that its close to glorifying them. So more psychos that want to leave a mark on society do something similar to gain infamy.
 
It's not about morals, it's about being an evolved human being. You may as well carry a club around and bop other people on the head while grunting if you feel the need to hunt for your food in the year 2013. Do you ride a horse to work too because it's better for the environment?

lol You mean like your argument on how having the internet makes you a superior evolved human to those from the Amazon?

Yea man, that internet, sooooo fucking important.
NOT
 
Hunting is a perfectly valid reason to own a gun, provided you've registered your weapon with the state and have passed hunting/firearm safety courses. And before anyone else chimes in, you don't need automatic or semi-automatic weapons to hunt.
In addition no one but the owner of the weapons should have access to them.
 
Blame a vague, unproven, emotional concept that is completely out of anyone's control, impossible to legislate against and contrary to culture and human nature = no change to gun laws = NRA wins!

So sickeningly transparent.
 
It's not about morals, it's about being an evolved human being. You may as well carry a club around and bop other people on the head while grunting if you feel the need to hunt for your food in the year 2013. Do you ride a horse to work too because it's better for the environment?

Yep, youre more evolved because you buy your meat at wal mart
 
It's not about morals, it's about being an evolved human being. You may as well carry a club around and bop other people on the head while grunting if you feel the need to hunt for your food in the year 2013. Do you ride a horse to work too because it's better for the environment?

Seriously?

As a gamer you would think you would see the need to have a hobby.
 
Maddow predicted it...idiots.

You know, I was thinking perhaps Sandy Hook might make the NRA change their mind about adopting sane gun control policy. Nope... same old crapola. That's what you get you're backed by the gun manufactuers.
 
Seriously?

As a gamer you would think you would see the need to have a hobby.

I feel like virtually murdering virtual people with a virtual gun is more civilized than murdering animals with a real gun.

Both of those activities are perfectly harmless and the NRA is delusional.
 
It's not about morals, it's about being an evolved human being. You may as well carry a club around and bop other people on the head while grunting if you feel the need to hunt for your food in the year 2013. Do you ride a horse to work too because it's better for the environment?

Did you really just shit all over their family tradition of a father son hunting trip? I think my kids knowing where their food comes from and is one of the most important things they have ever learned.

Yes, they need to make assault weapons illegal, and no I don't think for one second that will keep gang members and psychopaths from getting them. It may drive up the price and keep some idiot kid from falling into one, which is a good enough reason. But I don't think it will make them any less scarce than making drugs illegal did.

Either way, dragging games into this is just stupid.
 
I feel like virtually murdering virtual people with a virtual gun is more civilized than murdering animals with a real gun.

Both of those activities are perfectly harmless and the NRA is delusional.
I wouldn't exactly call hunting harmless, but I see what you're trying to say.
 
I wonder if there's a tiny former marketing team for the Splatterhouse remake who were happy to see their game name-dropped in the news.

The 15-year old ridiculous name for a Friday the 13th inspired beat 'em up has FINALLY PAID OFF! The $10 bargain bin copies will fly off the shelf!

(I liked the game)


Seriously though, they should have used a more recent or popular name, like Night Trap HD remix.
 
Seriously?

As a gamer you would think you would see the need to have a hobby.

A hobby where you can kill people accidentally? Do we need that?

According to the International Hunter Education Association, hunters accidentally shoot more than 1,000 people in the United States and Canada every year. Authorities in Pennsylvania worry that more bystanders will be injured by hunters' stray bullets as more homes are built near wooded areas where hunting is common.

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Sounds like you need to move on from that "hobby".
 
Nope, make the ownership of assault rifles and other such weapons illegal wholesale; turn 'em in to be disposed of. Ownership moving forward should be on a case-by-case basis and you have to provide damn good evidence as to why you need to continue owning such weaponry.

I don't disagree with you, and personally I'd vote for this, however I don't see it as having a snowballs chance in hell of ever happening. I know real people that would quote the "cold dead hands" bullshit if this were ever even brought up.

It's sad, really, that people cling to their weapons meant ONLY FOR KILLING PEOPLE so desperately.
 
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