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[Yagharek]

Kamiya almost a year ago.

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Let me guess. N4G clickbait articles again?

It's bloody annoying that they act all high and dignified right now. On the edited apology they still apparently trying to throw a diss or two towards Kamiya, damn.

I refuse to click their webpage for hits, but it doesn't surprise me. Every time a typical kotaku clusterfuck article appears, they circle the wagons and deny any and all responsibility for their poor standards. They are an absolute embarrassment to themselves and gaming media, and that's quite an achievement given the low standards that abound.

 

[Despera]

He wasn't kidding.

 

[Mael]

Yep. Expected something lame and expected everyone in the thread to be shitting themselves over how great what Kamiya said is.

It's hard to not shit on Kotaku from great height, I mean they metaphorically chose every toilet out there as their office :/

 

[demidar]

That is a strangely specific example.

Yeah but you understand why Kamiya would be pissed off right?

 

[Eusis]

I heard that they got in an actual fight shortly after though

Oh? Ah well, maybe Itagaki really did cut too deep! Or they really DO like having these kinds of spats, given the background image I saw on Katsuhiro Harada's Twitter.

Kamiya almost a year ago.

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I actually think he's making a good point, I imagine the problem is that most of us don't really know WHAT the budgets were, and even if we do we weren't involved in development to know if it really seems to be a fair decision. The best we have is that some of this stuff is on a budget specifically for DLC to be developed in between ramping up for launch and actually launching, which I think falls under "beyond the original budget" but we'd have no way of knowing for sure without that content not being a possibility.

Well, I think I'll mostly just sweat it when they make it seem as if we should've expected that with the game itself only at the last minute to go "oh hey you gotta buy it separately/it's a new copy-only deal" like how Catwoman in Arkham City seemed to me. Either you were dishonest about the nature of the content in the first place, or you deliberately cut it off once you saw monetizing possibilities.

 

[Aretak]

The sad thing about all this is that it's probably got Kotaku more hits than the original article ever would have, and at the end of the day that's all they care about. Everybody already knows it's the gaming "journalism" equivalent of The National Enquirer, so pointing it out and giving them attention doesn't really get anybody anywhere.

 

[JDSN]

Yeah but you understand why Kamiya would be pissed off right?

Yeah,I guess.


So what are your views on wormfarming?

 

[Easy_D]

The "updated" article was a title change? Really Kotaku?

 

[Laughing Banana]

The sad thing about all this is that it's probably got Kotaku more hits than the original article ever would have, and at the end of the day that's all they care about. Everybody already knows it's the gaming "journalism" equivalent of The National Enquirer, so pointing it out and giving them attention doesn't really get anybody anywhere.

Which is absolutely fine, if they are just being honest with themselves.

Too bad they are also too proud to admit that what they are doing most of the time is not "journalism."

 

[demidar]

Yeah,I guess.


So what are your views on wormfarming?

I don't care about worm farming, stop asking me.

 

[90TilInfinity]

I wish Kotaku would just accept that they are in fact a video game tabloid. They take themselves so seriously which is what makes them insufferable. "It's a great piece". Christ.

 

[Despera]

So a random white American Kotaku writer tells a Japanese developer, "this article has great insights into how you Japanese types see PC gaming." Was that ever going to go well? Take a moment to imagine the reverse.

I never defended Kotaku on this one, I was referring to his response to regular people... which is kind of hilarious.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I don't care about worm farming, stop asking me.

Paging Wormtaku

 

[Yagharek]

I don't care about worm farming, stop asking me.

If all other fields of journalism copied kotaku, "Demidar is clueless about wormfarming" will be wormfarm.com's next article.

 

[BumbleChump]

I boycotted gawker media a long time ago. I posted a comment on an article about princess peach's upskirt shots in super smash bros brawl: "Is this really worth an article?" and I got banned.

Plus it seems like they hate EVERYTHING.

 

[Yagharek]

I boycotted gawker media a long time ago. I posted a comment on an article about princess peach's upskirt shots in super smash bros brawl: "Is this really worth an article?" and I got banned.

Plus it seems like they hate EVERYTHING.

Come on, that's hard hitting investigative journalism!

 

[Mael]

Come on, that's hard hitting investigative journalism!

Yeah looking at the dojo and taking one sentence from there and making an article....
and you wonder why the gaming media is seen as the shitfest of journalism...

 

[JaxJag]

Sad how twitter arguments has become a part of today's culture.

Also, Hideki Kamiya is handling the whole situation like a forum poster. I guess that's why so many posters here are cheering him on.

Very unprofessional

 

[jbug617]

I follow him on twitter and to be fair he gets a lot of stupid questions.

 

[demidar]

Paging Wormtaku

My NeoGaf account isn't what you use to find news on a slow day. It is to communicate with fans. Don't ruin it. It fucking pisses me off.

 

[Yagharek]

Yeah looking at the dojo and taking one sentence from there and making an article....
and you wonder why the gaming media is seen as the shitfest of journalism...

Yep. There are very few remaining outlets or examples of good games journalism, or at least honest games journalism. Sites like kotaku really seem to do their best to tarnish the name of the industry through their 'quality' of output.

 

[Glass Rebel]

"Clueless NeoGAF poster pisses on journalist"

 

[Castor Krieg]

Did Jason already post in this thread expressing his fake outrage?

 

[jonno394]

Sad how twitter arguments has become a part of today's culture.

Also, Hideki Kamiya is handling the whole situation like a forum poster. I guess that's why so many posters here are cheering him on.

Very unprofessional

It's a personal social networking account, he can act how he wants imo.

I hate social networking. The whole "social networking accounts getting people in to trouble with their employers" scenarios really piss me off.

 

[demidar]

"Clueless NeoGAF poster pisses on journalist"

Ah, douche bags.

 

[Castor Krieg]

Come on, that's hard hitting investigative journalism!

I remember getting banned for asking if Ashcraft really has nothing else to do than shit on China and fap to any crazy stuff from Japan.

Also, can GAF finally ban Kotaku?

 

[maverick40]

So glad to see this. Kotaku are scum.

 

[JaxJag]

It's a personal social networking account, he can act how he wants imo.

I hate social networking. The whole "social networking accounts getting people in to trouble with their employers" scenarios really piss me off.

Sure, he can act however he wants.

Still doesn't make him look any less ignorant and juvenile.

 

[Pikma]

"Ah, douch bags" "Journalism? Ha ha!" "Do you eat shit?"

Is Kamiya a Gaffer? That sounds exactly like one of us.

 

[Shaneus]

It's banned on most Japanese TV stations. It may not have been when he was prominent, but it's the equivalent of "negro" over there now.

But yes, context is important.

Here's some context up in this bitch.
(I just wanted to post it because I haven't seen it in years)

 

[Yagharek]

I remember getting banned for asking if Ashcraft really has nothing else to do than shit on China and fap to any crazy stuff from Japan.

See this is the thing that makes them a joke. It would be like saying 'lol western gamers only care about call of duty and killing each other'. It does a disservice to creative western games like minecraft, out of studios like crytek and cd project, teams within ubisoft like Michael Ancel's group, Oddworld Inhabitants and no doubt countless others.

Sites like kotaku seem to love posting asinine shit like panty vending machines as if their stereotype of japan is still built upon a 1995 vision of nightmares from akihabara and nowhere else.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Such selective pickings.

Do people not understand this? He says good night to everyone and "some, as usual on his twitter someone trolls him for a reaction, so he redirects the troll back on itself.
The "Satisfied?" at the end should tell you too.
People being outraged by this are about on the sensational level that Kotaku works on.

 

[demidar]

I actually like Jason Scherier, so I hope he distances himself from this mess. He's one of the better parts of Kotaku. Follow the writer, not the website. It's like saying "Gaf is a hivemind" and we all know how fucking stupid that statement is.

 

[Kinyou]

Maybe next time they should actually interview the guy and not write an article based on some vague tweets.

 

[Solune]

Sad how twitter arguments has become a part of today's culture.

Also, Hideki Kamiya is handling the whole situation like a forum poster. I guess that's why so many posters here are cheering him on.

Very unprofessional

So you're saying they shouldn't be cheering him on? What exactly is he supposed to do with his twitter account in response to the article that was posted regarding his tweet, probably without his permission I may add?

The actions that instigated this twitter argument were all unprofessional on both sides anyways, so why does Kamiya have to act like the high and mighty one? He'll say what he wants, when he wants, that's why posters respect him. He doesn't go out of his way to sugarcoat anything , and he's all the better for it.

eh hem. Real Talk.

 

[JaxJag]

Ok, so as long as one person makes an ass out of themselves, it's ok for the other person to do it as well.

"Two wrongs do not make a right."

 

[Castor Krieg]

Maybe next time they should actually interview the guy and not write an article based on some vague tweets.

Too much trouble, need dem clicks.

 

[Mista Koo]

He responds to pretty much every fan, troll and hater. I'd say that allows to freak out and be rude every now and then.

 

[demidar]

Ok, so as long as one person makes an ass out of themselves, it's ok for the other person to do it as well.

"Two wrongs do not make a right."

I see, so Kamiya should just lay down and take it without struggling like the subservient bitch he is. He's not allowed to fight back, that would be "wrong".

Okay.

 

[Risette]

evil for evil

 

[Glass Rebel]

Speaking your mind and being mature aren't mutually exclusive concepts, guys.

I hope people don't like Kamiya because he tells people to fuck off.

 

[Negator]

evil for evil

Eye for eye

Tooth for tooth

 

[Risette]

Speaking your mind and being mature aren't mutually exclusive concepts, guys.

I hope people don't like Kamiya because he tells people to fuck off.

It's about telling the right people to fuck off, and when.

But no I like him for his games better.

 

[Solune]

Ok, so as long as one person makes an ass out of themselves, it's ok for the other person to do it as well.

"Two wrongs do not make a right."

You still didn't answer how both posters here or Kamiya should react to the article in question. So it was "unprofessional", does that make it wrong? Because that's what you're insinuating.

There's nothing wrong with what he posts. In this instance perhaps it would've been easier to gloss over if Kamiya ignored it outright. But he chose to react like he does to everything.

 

[JaxJag]

I see, so Kamiya should just lay down and take it without struggling like the subservient bitch he is. He's not allowed to fight back, that would be "wrong".

Okay.

No, but there's better ways of handling it.

Not surprising that people here are defending the actions of Kamiya. I'm sure he's made some of your favorite games, and a lot of the guys here worship him. But in the real world, things shouldn't be handled the way he's doing it.

He sounds like a 16 year old forum poster, a racist one at that.

 

[Dresden]

Yes, a guy who goes out of his way to chat with foreign fans in a different language is xenophobic.

 

[demidar]

Speaking your mind and being mature aren't mutually exclusive concepts, guys.

I hope people don't like Kamiya because he tells people to fuck off.

I like Kamiya because he tells the right people to fuck off. Few others in the industry does it quite like him. You expect the guy who wrote the article to have a shred of journalistic integrity? The existence of the article is evidence to the contrary.

And he makes cool games too.

 

[Mael]

No, but there's better ways of handling it.

Not surprising that people here are defending the actions of Kamiya. I'm sure he's made some of your favorite games, and a lot of the guys here worship him. But in the real world, things shouldn't be handled the way he's doing it.

He sounds like a 16 year old forum poster, a racist one at that.

The form may not be there but really that's the way to handle it, he called out the pieces of shit that pass themselves as journalists.
A politician doing the same would certainly not lose point to me if he shat on the Sun for example...
The fact that he's a game maker or not is irrelevant, heck if Dyack did the same I'd be still be there shitting on Shitaku

 

[demidar]

No, but there's better ways of handling it.

Not surprising that people here are defending the actions of Kamiya. I'm sure he's made some of your favorite games, and a lot of the guys here worship him. But in the real world, things shouldn't be handled the way he's doing it.

He sounds like a 16 year old forum poster, a racist one at that.

Okay, how do you think he should've handled it?

 

[RagingAvatar]

Plunkett said don't bother buying Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed.
There's no point in ever listening to him.