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Did a search of the thread and didn't see this mentioned..

I just bought my 3DS XL (Mainly due to this announcement) and I played around with the AR cards you get with the console, and I noticed Kid Icarus has them. Not really given them a proper go yet, but I was just thinking.

Wouldn't this game be the perfect time to sync the trading card game, and video games together? Imagine buying a pack of the Pokemon AR Cards, and on one side is the usual trading card shtuff and on the other is the AR form.

Place 2 - 6 cards down facing each other and watch pokemon duke it out in your living room/kitchen/playground/dungeon. Do you think something like this is possible?
 
injurai said:
Natures and movesets would still need breeding.
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It would be amazing. I could breed Pokemon in minutes. Natures and passing down moves are simple.

BraXzy said:
Did a search of the thread and didn't see this mentioned..

I just bought my 3DS XL (Mainly due to this announcement) and I played around with the AR cards you get with the console, and I noticed Kid Icarus has them. Not really given them a proper go yet, but I was just thinking.

Wouldn't this game be the perfect time to sync the trading card game, and video games together? Imagine buying a pack of the Pokemon AR Cards, and on one side is the usual trading card shtuff and on the other is the AR form.

Place 2 - 6 cards down facing each other and watch pokemon duke it out in your living room/kitchen/playground/dungeon. Do you think something like this is possible?
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I think a TCG tie in, with AR features, makes a ton of sense. I don't know if it will happen though.
 
JoeM86 said:
It's a bit weird. They kept denying my account (probably due to my @serebii.net e-mail), I made this one and forgot about it. It then got activated yesterday and I can't have two accounts so ah well.
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You should be able to request a username change from the administrator of the forums, seeing as you're new. I know of some members here that has changed their usernames, like Boss Doggie/Ookami-kun here.
 
backlot said:
Didn't they make TCG cards with e-Reader scan codes on them a while ago? AR cards would make way more sense than that.
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The eReader dot codes worked a little differently because they could contain executable code within them. AR cards would have to have a companion app that's updated regularly if they're going to do more than just a collectible showcase.

But then you run into the issue of it all being on the 3DS already and the cards being rather silly.
 
backlot said:
Before RNG exploits became possible I used to breed Pokemon with as near to perfect IV's as possible for my competitive battles. 3 to 5 perfect IV's and the rest above 25 at least. I'll probably do this again in gen 6 if the RNG for it is never figured out. Competitive players are never gonna just forget about IV's.
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I completely agree with you. Making sure there is no RNG manipulation in gen six would be great. And I think I've been turned somewhat on my opinion of IV's. Every gen has made obtaining perfect IVs easier, and I have always appreciated that, especially the power items use in breeding. So if GameFreak continued that trend, I would definitely understand and appreciate it. I just don't want it to be "changeable."
 
Willxc123 said:
I completely agree with you. Making sure there is no RNG manipulation in gen six would be great. And I think I've been turned somewhat on my opinion of IV's. Every gen has made obtaining perfect IVs easier, and I have always appreciated that, especially the power items use in breeding. So if GameFreak continued that trend, I would definitely understand and appreciate it. I just don't want it to be "changeable."
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I have always wanted IVs to be less of a influence, or at least, easier to handle, so I think GF is heading in the right direction. I'd also agree with Joe on the most part. It's hard for a game developer to do something radical and not alienate their user base. A lot of companies should know better.

Sometimes, status quo is what's the best thing to have, though sometimes I'd like to see IVs simplified. There's a reason I do not get competitive circuits...
 
I think even just making IV's visible stats that you can see in game without having to use a crazy calculator would go a long way in simplifying the system.
 
Personally, I think almost any change that makes competitive Pokemon easier to get into (beyond something really stupid like removing the over world) is a good change, but honestly I don't think breeding is a big issue, gamefreak has been making that task easier every game lately. The real problem imo is getting a good legendary, because soft resetting is a real pain in the ass. Normally I'd say "just make all the IVs 31, they ARE legendary!", but only stuff like Kyogre and Mewtwo would be satsified with that, because plenty of legendary like Thundurus reallly want Hidden Power... Maybe a change in mechanics for Hidden Power would be nice, since breeding for a good Hidden Power is also a total pain in the ass anyways!
 
Cuteness Overload said:
I have always wanted IVs to be less of a influence, or at least, easier to handle, so I think GF is heading in the right direction. I'd also agree with Joe on the most part. It's hard for a game developer to do something radical and not alienate their user base. A lot of companies should know better.

Sometimes, status quo is what's the best thing to have, though sometimes I'd like to see IVs simplified. There's a reason I do not get competitive circuits...
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A new generation like this is the perfect time to introduce those new mechanics. More than IV changes, I'd rather have some rebalancing of base stats on Pokemon. It could be as big a change as the physical / special split in Generation 4.

Theorymon said:
Personally, I think almost any change that makes competitive Pokemon easier to get into (beyond something really stupid like removing the over world) is a good change, but honestly I don't think breeding is a big issue, gamefreak has been making that task easier every game lately. The real problem imo is getting a good legendary, because soft resetting is a real pain in the ass. Normally I'd say "just make all the IVs 31, they ARE legendary!", but only stuff like Kyogre and Mewtwo would be satsified with that, because plenty of legendary like Thundurus reallly want Hidden Power... Maybe a change in mechanics for Hidden Power would be nice, since breeding for a good Hidden Power is also a total pain in the ass anyways!
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Indeed, this is where RNG really gives you an advantage. At least we can be thankfully for the online components, which makes it easier for non-RNGer to obtain good legendary Pokemon from others.
 
Theorymon said:
Personally, I think almost any change that makes competitive Pokemon easier to get into (beyond something really stupid like removing the over world) is a good change, but honestly I don't think breeding is a big issue, gamefreak has been making that task easier every game lately. The real problem imo is getting a good legendary, because soft resetting is a real pain in the ass. Normally I'd say "just make all the IVs 31, they ARE legendary!", but only stuff like Kyogre and Mewtwo would be satsified with that, because plenty of legendary like Thundurus reallly want Hidden Power... Maybe a change in mechanics for Hidden Power would be nice, since breeding for a good Hidden Power is also a total pain in the ass anyways!
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ooh good call Tmon, trying to get competitively viable legendaries is literally impossible without RNGing or DAYS of soft resetting.
 
PK Gaming said:
ooh good call Tmon, trying to get competitively viable legendaries is literally impossible without RNGing or DAYS of soft resetting.
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It would be nice if the Synchronize Pokemon in the front of your party could guarantee the legend having a max IV in one stat. By holding a Power item for instance, ala breeding. It would make getting that critical perfect speed through soft resetting much more manageable.
 
backlot said:
I think even just making IV's visible stats that you can see in game without having to use a crazy calculator would go a long way in simplifying the system.
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When they said they were making it easier in BW2, this is what I thought they'd do.

I've never gone into the whole EV/IV thing before as it got far too much, far too quickly for me. I prefer things to be skill and strategy over time and effort in pretty much any game.

The "whole easy to learn, hard to master" thing doesn't really count anymore with pokémon current competitive setup.
 
I have a feeling XY "leveling" system will be similar to FF2:

The game is also one of the few games in the series to not use experience-based levels. Instead, each character participating in battle develops depending on what actions they take. For instance, characters who frequently use a particular type of weapon will become more adept at wielding a weapon of that type, and will also increase in physical strength and accuracy. Attributes include hit points, magic points, magic power, stamina, strength, spirit, agility, intelligence, and evasion. Players can also increase their ability to wield certain types of weapon, and repeated use in combat causes the ability to level up.[5]
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Man, fuck that noise. I pick the pokemon I like the look of most and play the exact same way I did when I was 14 and Red/Blue came out. All that IV shit sounds more like actual work than play.
 
MCN said:
Man, fuck that noise. I pick the pokemon I like the look of most and play the exact same way I did when I was 14 and Red/Blue came out. All that IV shit sounds more like actual work than play.
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Pretty much. That's why I only ev train because of how easy it is now.
 
Winterfang said:
Yeah that trailer phrase, is still resonating with me. I have a feeling a big change will occur.
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I still don't think it's going to be that drastic an overhaul, especially since the battle scenes we've seen so far are literally the same as what we've got in Gen V, just in 3D.

But we just have nothing to go on outside of vague lines and meaningless video footage.
 
Berordn said:
I still don't think it's going to be that drastic an overhaul, especially since the battle scenes are literally the same as what we've got in Gen V, just in 3D.

But we just have nothing to go on.
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It's just a feel, probably whisful thinking. I'm one of the few people that didn't loved Black/White. I was expecting a huge change, a reinvention if you will, I'm still waiting for that change. It's not that I hate the games but after Platinum I was so satisfied, I even skipped HG/SS because I was done with everything in a good way. My poke appetite was full if you will, so I want a taste of something different, something better.
 
Valnen said:
That would be bad if it meant we had another gen 2>gen 3 situation where we can't import any pokemon.
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Well excuse my ignorance as I so far haven't bothered with IVs and EVs and all that though seeing that the technical possibilities today are far superior than they were during the Gen 2 --> 3 switch couldn't they just make all EVs and IVs reset and basically wipe them clean when you move a Pokémon should there be a big change in Gen 6? Of course it would be annoying for people who put alot of effort in their Pokémon in the past but seeing how fast people seem to breed them wouldn't it be fair if everyone basically has to start fresh by breeding especially since Gen 6 should block all RNG and related "exploits"? That way everyone still would have their long kept Pokémon they always traded from Gen to Gen but the competitive community would start from zero which I think wouldn't be bad especially since we also have a Worldwide release.
 
If the 3DS remains un-hacked for the rest of this year, we may end up seeing a tournament completely free of non-RNG and non-hacked Pokemon. That would be interesting to see...
 
TrickRoom said:
If the 3DS remains un-hacked for the rest of this year, we may end up seeing a tournament completely free of non-RNG and non-hacked Pokemon. That would be interesting to see...
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That is only true if trading from Gen V is impossible or as previously mentioned, they reset the IVs and EVs of traded Pokémon.
 
Winterfang said:
It's not that I hate the games but after Platinum I was so satisfied, I even skipped HG/SS because I was done with everything in a good way. My poke appetite was full if you will, so I want a taste of something different, something better.
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I'm pretty sure that's a bannable offence right there.
You've let both you and more importantly your Pokémon down.
 
Frost_Ace said:
The RNG can't be figured out without the system being hacked?
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We'll I'd imagine you would need some way to flash a carts rom and decompile the executable code. Then after wading through code you could figure out everything. I don't really think it can be done with trial and error or analyzing signal and packet data.
 
Seeing all this Bulba-Sere talk reminded me to check out Bulba's forums and face book page. And I have to say ... I think that they're right with the speculation that Xerneas=Artemis Deer and Yveltal=Apollo Bird. Makes far more sense to me than the Norse angle.

The deer is a sacred animal to Artemis and she is the goddess of femininity. Apollo is her twin, he reps masculinity and his sacred animals are the hawk and/ or raven. And regardless of how many people jump on the "XYZ axis" train the only real thing we have to go on is the double helix which points to X and Y referring to gender chromosomes.

Plus, apparently the name Xerneas could come from Cerynian (Other people said this and I wasn't sure until I looked up how Cerynian is pronounced ... and yeah, sounds very close to how I have been saying "Xerneas").

really ties in nicely with the gender theme and I can even see there being story elements about this. :]
 
injurai said:
We'll I'd imagine you would need some way to flash a carts rom and decompile the executable code. Then after wading through code you could figure out everything. I don't really think it can be done with trial and error or analyzing signal and packet data.
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I'm sure they can help it being random by not making it pseudorandom.
The only seeds I want are held/attached to/fired from my pokémon.

Black-Wind said:
Seeing all this Bulba-Sere talk reminded me to check out Bulba's forums and face book page. And I have to say ... I think that they're right with the speculation that Xerneas=Artemis Deer and Yveltal=Apollo Bird. Makes far more sense to me than the Norse angle...

...really ties in nicely with the gender theme and I can even see there being story elements about this. :]
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Aww, but the Norse angle is cool as all hell.
Gender may be an idea, but I reckon they might be more going with the 3D theme there, especially if Pokémon Z comes around.
 
XaosWolf said:
I'm sure they can help it being random by not making it pseudorandom.
The only seeds I want are held/attached to/fired from my pokémon.
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The should make seeds based on the gyroscope and accelerometer in the 3DS. That way you have to have a 34° pitch, 28° yaw, 37° roll, while moving at .546 m/s along vector [4i,5j,12k] to get a perfect seed. Which can only be done at 3AM local time based on the GMT offset.

Oh and good luck figuring out the current value of electromagnetic north while your at it.
 
injurai said:
The should make seeds based on the gyroscope and accelerometer in the 3DS. That way you have to have a 34° pitch, 28° yaw, 37° roll, while moving at .546 m/s along vector [4i,5j,12k] to get a perfect seed. Which can only be done at 3AM local time based on the GMT offset.

Oh and good luck figuring out the current value of electromagnetic north while your at it.
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Add in elevation and number of sacrifices and we're golden.
 
MCN said:
Man, fuck that noise. I pick the pokemon I like the look of most and play the exact same way I did when I was 14 and Red/Blue came out. All that IV shit sounds more like actual work than play.
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It's not like you'd need to know IVs when playing single-player. It's only for competitive stuff and maybe the Frontier/Subway/PWT matches.
 
TrickRoom said:
If the 3DS remains un-hacked for the rest of this year, we may end up seeing a tournament completely free of non-RNG and non-hacked Pokemon. That would be interesting to see...
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Hmm I wouldn't be too sure about that

Assuming the breeding the mechanics are the same, tournament players would be definitely be willing to mass breed to get the right Pokemon. I doubt you'll see much legendary Pokemon/Event though.

edit: actually I take it back. if the new legendaries are really good, some people might just soft reset for natures + decent IVs and use em.
 
PK Gaming said:
Hmm I wouldn't be too sure about that

Assuming the breeding the mechanics are the same, tournament players would be definitely be willing to mass breed to get the right Pokemon. I doubt you'll see much legendary Pokemon/Event though.

edit: actually I take it back. if the new legendaries are really good, some people might just soft reset for natures + decent IVs and use em.
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Plus there'll still be pokemon transfered from older versions.
 
injurai said:
The should make seeds based on the gyroscope and accelerometer in the 3DS. That way you have to have a 34° pitch, 28° yaw, 37° roll, while moving at .546 m/s along vector [4i,5j,12k] to get a perfect seed. Which can only be done at 3AM local time based on the GMT offset.

Oh and good luck figuring out the current value of electromagnetic north while your at it.
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XaosWolf said:
Add in elevation and number of sacrifices and we're golden.
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One way that stuff would go out the window is if you intercept Pokemon going to and from GTS - if the method of transportation remains the same, then it's likely that that stuff will only be a temporary barrier.
 
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I want them in the game as pre-evo's. I don't care that Pre-evo's suck, I want them. Or make them some chibi form you get from an accessory.
 
Trojita said:
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I want them in the game as pre-evo's. I don't care that Pre-evo's suck, I want them. Or make them some chibi form you get from an accessory.
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You know, we have never had a Legendary with an evolve form, nor a pre-evolve form...

I know there are alt-forms but thats not the same thing...
 
ColtraineGF said:
One way that stuff would go out the window is if you intercept Pokemon going to and from GTS - if the method of transportation remains the same, then it's likely that that stuff will only be a temporary barrier.
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Since the 3DS supports wireless security on the system level, I have to wonder if they'll actually encrypt the transmissions this time. It'd at least be a stumbling block for a while and might prevent the DNS overrides that are so easy on the DS.

injurai said:
You know, we have never had a Legendary with an evolve form, nor a pre-evolve form...

I know there are alt-forms but thats not the same thing...
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Professor Rowan made a point of saying that one thing that makes Legendary Pokemon legendary is that they don't evolve ever. I doubt we'll ever see them add that.
 
PK Gaming said:
Hmm I wouldn't be too sure about that

Assuming the breeding the mechanics are the same, tournament players would be definitely be willing to mass breed to get the right Pokemon. I doubt you'll see much legendary Pokemon/Event though.

edit: actually I take it back. if the new legendaries are really good, some people might just soft reset for natures + decent IVs and use em.
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Well, I specifically said "non-RNG and non-hacked". Breeding like crazy is all legal, after all.

But dang, is brute-force breeding/SR-ing really as big to the competitive community as you seem to be implying? I was always under the impression that, for those perfect Pokemon of just the right speed/hidden power, RNG and legit hacking were the main methods to resort to. Especially with all those shinies populating the VGC battle videos...
 
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