I had no idea Nomura was borrowing so much from FF12 for Versus ..
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They made a few big design changes 3-4 years ago. What we saw in the 2011 trailer already had much of that implemented. The couple of big ones are pretty much mentioned in the OP (1) going from old school miniature world map to something closer to FFXII's overworld, except with no loading screens, 2) going from having traditional cutscenes to making at least some of them happen during gameplay).
Yeah with the realistic style it's going for.
But the old style map can still be awesome if the theme of the game allows it. I've only played the demo of Ni No Kuni, but it had a wonderful looking world map.
SniperHunter
Banned
yea I wouldn't read much into that tech demo appearance. they will just confirm the engine can run on these systems.
Or they might show Versus13 running on luminous engine and give a 2014 release date.
GuitarAtomik
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This actually sounds pretty good. Not that I think this game will see the light of day any time soon.
YOU BETTER BACK IT UP!
SniperHunter
Banned
that guy was mocked though....I wouldn't read too much into it. But he did place an account bet...yet he was ignored. Those are some bold claims IMO.
H_Prestige
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LOL, I see you're at it again. Still willing to bet your account on it?
Twilight Princess
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versus will be just like ffxii, amazing first half, and then everything falls apart.
I don't really see why you'd do both, FFXIII/Versus XIII were announced at E3'06, the FFVII tech demo was at E3'05, it seemed like they wanted to show they're relevant, but didn't want to show their new games. If Versus XIII is on the next two consoles, the tech demo seems irrelevant to me.
throwawayname
Member
What game is he talking about? Never heard of it.
The Spoony Hou
Member
It's controversial to dislike FFXII?
SniperHunter
Banned
he needs a tag asap.
One of the things I've always been most interested in about this title is using the airship to travel the map, since it will be in the traditional sense. How dynamic will it be, for example? Would you be able to travel both low and high, amongst monsters even? It will be interesting to see that aspect.
A wise man always makes bets he knows he won't lose. I find this incredibly entertaining.
For E3, if given the case that ARR would have not launch yet, which it isn't unlikely since it's almost February, or it already is in many places, and we are yet to hear of the Beta starting date. I think a big focus, if not the main one for SE would be to showcase and display FFXIV ARR for both PC and PS3 (and maybe any other soon-to-be-ported platform), since their next 10 years of steady income is directly related to the success of their rebooted MMO.
You're making a trip to E3 specifically in hopes that Versus will be shown?
That's a risky move.
Completely trusting you, moreover ever since you posted about your opinion of XIII.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Moreover when you take into consideration I could care less about gaming as a whole apart from FF/SE games in general.
Translation : you can slightly rotate the camera while watching the cut-scene.
It's good that they take inspiration from FF12 though, because that was the last time they made a great game. I'm still not holding my breath for Versus though. I have lost any faith I had remaining in Square.
I guess it depends on what's happened to Versus. It can't make a profit if it just launches on PS4 and Xbox 3 next year, so it's either still on other platforms, or getting delayed longer, or someone has money hatted for an exclusive window, if it's that, whoever did is going to want to show it at their conference.
TheJollyCorner
Member
well, at the worst you can watch whatever new Lightning Returns trailer is shown in all of its glory over... and over... and over.
but yeah, I think going to E3 this year will be worth the time/expense, regardless of whatever SE shows. Should be a legendary show.
Ghost_Protocol
Member
oh snap!
I love a good 'insider/GAF account bet'!
A 2014 release is what everyone was thinking already right? Not so hard to believe.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
oh snap!
I love a good 'insider/GAF account bet'!
OMG I want to believe.
This game is all I ever want in a FF. Come SQEENIX redeem yourselves.
My prediction: Versus unveiled as FF15 for ps3/ps4 release date 2014
SniperHunter
Banned
hahah this guy....man I hope someone is bookmarking your posts, and if it turns out you were lying....
Indeed. Don't ask me what came off interesting during the last three E3, my answer would be "nothing but Agnis' Philosophy".
If that's the case with Versus, I really doubt they would actually sell more on PS4/X3 next year, than releasing it for PS360. Bigger install bases and all that.
H_Prestige
Banned
1. Sony has only recently sent out target specs for the ps4 (like last year)
2. SE's luminous engine is far from complete
The idea that SE has completely retooled Versus into a ps4 game on such short notice, using an engine that doesn't even exist yet, and have a demo ready in five months that will blow everyone away is beyond laughable.
2. SE's luminous engine is far from complete
The idea that SE has completely retooled Versus into a ps4 game on such short notice, using an engine that doesn't even exist yet, and have a demo ready in five months that will blow everyone away is beyond laughable.
Think you should take a look at his posts' history. Now that would be insightful.
Everything is hard to believe when it comes to Versus and it actually, you know, coming out.
Yeah, they certainly wouldn't.
Well the first point is kind of irrelevant, because that almost suggests there couldn't be games ready, but we all know where will be, at launch in fact, mere months after the system's announcement. And Sony themselves have been making PS4 games for a couple of years already.
The second point maybe I'm missing. Why would you assume it's moved engines?
The third point is the strangest. Why do they need some huge heads up? They've had two years in the complete dark, just making it 1080p and 60fps with extra sparks is certainly going to look very pretty. It's not like they'd rebuild all the assets. They can't just keep bleeding money over this project.
Oh hey, if Yoshida can do it with ARR, I'm sure Nomura can also do it
with the help from all the 700 people working on ARR
The art design of XII was wonderful but the actual exploration was boring and half-assed. I don't think I've played a single JRPG with "world map modeled in accurate scale to the characters" that I've actually genuinely enjoyed; that shit just makes the game artificially slower and adds nothing to the experience. DQVIII is my least favorite DQ ever along with IX.
SniperHunter
Banned
false! PS Orbis dev kits were handed out to devs in 2011
Acquiescence
Member
Eugh, not good. I instantly lose interest in anything that draws influences from FFXII. What a bore that game was, in every conceivable way.
Exactly same reason why DQX was released on the Wii, when they could have waited 6 months and released it on the Wii U, more powerful and all. Although the comparison between DQX and Versus is not the most appropriate, but still fits as a more recent example.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I wouldn't trust a wikipedia article quite yet. I smell Galvanization.
I agree with her, at least, to an extent, I think it'll be both.
She did receive confirmation afterwards that Versus will show up this year at some point. Didn't bookmark the post in question tho.
People say this, but we got like seven or eight solid minutes of gameplay. That's seven or eight more than you'll get of GTAV before you buy it in the store day of release.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Has to be E3/TGS/Jump Festa
E3 is preferred.
But I feel TGS and JF have higher likelihood.
Yet GTA V already has a release date, while Versus has nothing but a very old video which might not be representative of the current gameplay.
This is their best bet anyway. The game is dead in the water if they do what they did with XIII and move it to PS4. The transition from PS2 to PS3 (supposedly) messed up what was supposed to be a another great FF.
Uhh.. Luminous Engine does exist already. It's probably not that far from being able to be used in actual game development, given that at E3 they'll show Agni's Philosophy running on actual next-gen hardware.