A history of White House interest in UFOs

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Did you know Jimmy Carter once had a recorded sighting prior to his election? Reagan too is said to have witnessed something remarkable with his wife Nancy on their way to a party; he would go on to invoke the subject of UFOs several times in his presidency. There is a strikingly long history of interest from the White House on this topic. In a signed statement to Congress, August 22, 1960, Former CIA Director Vice Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter stated: "It is time for the truth to be brought out... Behind the scenes high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense.... I urge immediate Congressional action to reduce the dangers from secrecy about unidentified flying objects."

Former President Jimmy Carter said this of his own sighting in 1973: "There were about twenty of us standing outside of a little restaurant, I believe, a high school lunch room, and a kind of green light appeared in the western sky. This was right after sundown. It got brighter and brighter. And then it eventually disappeared. It didn't have any solid substance to it, it was just a very peculiar-looking light. None of us could understand what it was." He would then go on to say during his election campaign three years later, "One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists". As President, this failed to materialised. He cited "defense implications" as a reason.

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Former Vice President Dan Quayle recalls: "The alien situation is a very interesting. There are people out there that really believe it. We literally spent some time looking at this but there was nothing conclusive that came of it.

Speaking in a 2005 interview, Carter states: "all of a sudden, one of the men looked up and said, 'Look, over in the west!' And there was a bright light in the sky. We all saw it. And then the light, it got closer and closer to us. And then it stopped, I don’t know how far away, but it stopped beyond the pine trees. And all of a sudden it changed color to blue, and then it changed to red, then back to white. And we were trying to figure out what in the world it could be, and then it receded into the distance."

During a Q & A in 2005, Former President Bill Clinton was asked about the alleged Roswell crash in the late 40's. He stated: "I had people in my own administration who were convinced there was a conspiracy [about extraterrestrials], so I sent someone there to investigate and it turned out to be just boring defence work so we didn't want anyone to know about. I don't think it happened - I think there are rational explanations. I did attempt to find out if there were any secret government documents that reveal things, and if there were, they were concealed from me too. I wouldn’t be the first president that underlings have lied to, or that career bureaucrats have waited out. But there may be some career person sitting around somewhere hiding these dark secrets even from elected presidents. But if so, they successfully alluded me. And I’m embarrassed to tell you, I did try to find out."

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Just a few years prior, however, John Podesta - Clintons Chief of Staff declared in a press conference: "It is time for the government to declassify records that are more than 25 years old and to provide scientists with data that will assist in determining the real nature of this phenomenon". When he worked for the Clinton White House Podesta was in charge of a project to declassify 800 million pages of intelligence documents.

The most recent White House figure to comment publicly on the topic was none other than Dick Cheney; his response could be construed as tongue in cheek or suggestive. Click on the link below to watch a documentary on the details of this entire topic

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The biggest fallacy in the UFO movement is that unexplained has to equal UFOs. Yet, no one really likes to talk about how many triangular, cigar, and fast aerial phenomena usually turned out to be our own aircraft.

1950-1990 America was never used to seeing domestic, even military, aircraft to look like this:

I'm not opposed to the idea of flying saucers or aliens. But, I'm quite sure many of the reports are over exaggerated. Don't even get me started on "hypnosis therapy" for abductees. It's been proven such therapy is as useful as 1000 dollar Monster cables.
 
Presidents, or more correctly soon-to-be- Presidents, are not experts on aviation so their sightings are no more valid than any other civilians.
 
I'm paraphrasing it here, but he said, were it true, it would be classified and therefore mean he couldn't speak about it. He was asked this on a radio show

Yeah he was asked if as VPOTUS, was he briefed on the topic of UFOs. And Cheney said if had been briefed it would probably be classified and he couldn't talk about it.
 
Yet, no one really likes to talk about how many triangular, cigar, and fast aerial phenomena usually turned out to be our own aircraft.


So where's your data ? How many UFOs turn out to be secret aircraft ? Because I think that's an even bigger fallacy, that most of these UFOs are really just secret aircraft. Since the 1940's, the UFOs displayed performance beyond what today's 5th generation fighter aircraft can do.
 
The biggest fallacy in the UFO movement is that unexplained has to equal UFOs. Yet, no one really likes to talk about how many triangular, cigar, and fast aerial phenomena usually turned out to be our own aircraft.

1950-1990 America was never used to seeing domestic, even military, aircraft to look like this:


I'm not opposed to the idea of flying saucers or aliens. But, I'm quite sure many of the reports are over exaggerated. Don't even get me started on "hypnosis therapy" for abductees. It's been proven such therapy is as useful as 1000 dollar Monster cables.

If we're to consider the % of sightings that could not be explained as conventional aircraft or natural phenomenon, then we're forced to acknowledge that both the design and performance characteristics (saucer or cigar shaped, extreme acceleration in silence, impossible aerodynamics) being displayed by these objects at a time where the air force still had squadrons using propeller planes - decades before we began putting men on missiles to reach comparable speeds to these objects. It's physically impossible for the human body to cope with the G forces involved in making instant right angle turns at thousands of miles per hour as much as it is now as it was 60 years ago. You're suggesting the military had technology that defied current known physics, aerodynamics and propulsion systems that are the stuff of fantasy even today back in the 1940s just decades after the Wright Brothers flew the first plane? I don't understand. How does that make sense to you?

This isn't even to mention that "flying saucers" pre-date the 40s.
 
So why do I only hear about UFO sightings in the US? Why isn't this a thing in Europe? Do the aliens don't like our Royal with cheese or what?
 
S: Joining us now is the 39th President of the United States, President Jimmy Carter. Mr. President, welcome to the Skeptic's Guide.

PJC: It's a pleasure.

S: So, we were actually putting, this interview was set up by your grandson, Josh Carter, who is a, a fine young man. He wanted us to give you the opportunity to sec...set the record straight regarding your eyewitness encounter with a UFO back in 1969. Can you first just start by telling us about what you saw?

PJC: Well, back in those days, I was the district governor of 56 Lions Clubs, and I had to visit each one of those Clubs during my year of service. And I was in a small south Georgia town one night, outside the schoolhouse waiting to eat supper and to talk to them, and all of us - there were 26 men, I believe, if I remember right - all of us saw a very bright light in the western sky and it was bright enough to attract our attention, much brighter than a star. And it got closer and closer and then it seemed to stop in its proximity to us, and then the color of it changed from white to blue to red, and it stayed there for a while. All of us were aghast at, at what we were seeing, couldn't figure it out. And then the light, that's all we could see, not a solid object, the light then slowly disappeared back into the direction from which it came. So, I'm a, a scientist by training...

S: Mm-hmm.

PJC: And, and I have never thought there were extraterrestrial beings on a, on a sh...you know, ship from outer space or anything, but it was an unidentified flying object. It was obviously unidentified, it was flying and it was an object.

S: Mm-hmm.

PJC: And so, that's the limit of my experience with so-called UFOs.
http://www.sgutranscripts.org/wiki/SGU_Episode_105#Interview_with_President_Jimmy_Carter_.2839:22.29

http://www.theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcastinfo.aspx?mid=1&pid=105
 
Do you have any real sources for those quotes and facts in the OP?

The quotes are legit. I got them from various documentaries and newspapers, some of which are shown in the video link in the OP


I'd like to know which administration was responsible for the more FOIA releases regarding UFOs; Carter or Clinton. Although some attribute the former with much of the documents we now have in public that relate back to the 50s
 
I love your threads Jason, however the more evidence I read about UFOs the more I'm lean towards the theory that most UFO accounts are secret military projects or mis-identifications.
 
The biggest fallacy in the UFO movement is that unexplained has to equal UFOs. Yet, no one really likes to talk about how many triangular, cigar, and fast aerial phenomena usually turned out to be our own aircraft.

1950-1990 America was never used to seeing domestic, even military, aircraft to look like this:

That's not really the case though. Like there was a supposed triangular plane called the "Manta" that was supposed to be the cause of a lot of sightings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-3_Black_Manta

The same thing happened a bit later with the Aurora

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft)

While I think it's certainly possible people have mistaken experimental aircraft for UFOs, I think at the same time many people think they see experimental planes, not UFOs. (Though of course the question is, what if these experimental planes don't exist. Just what did they see then?)

According to Jacques Vallee, the UFO phenomena is global. They are seen in every country in the world.

Oh yeah, he's gone all over the world investigating stuff. He wrote a book about an outbreak of sightings in Russia (which did get reported in the West somewhat) and then in another book, he went to Brazil to investigate cases of UFOs attacking people.
 
Presidents, or more correctly soon-to-be- Presidents, are not experts on aviation so their sightings are no more valid than any other civilians.

Many of them have served in Navy or Airforce careers.. Not making them experts or anything but maybe giving them a bit more knowledge than the average
 
So why do I only hear about UFO sightings in the US? Why isn't this a thing in Europe? Do the aliens don't like our Royal with cheese or what?

A quick Google search will demonstrate that there are indeed plenty of sightings outside the US. Coincidentally, South America has historically been a greater hotspot of sightings than in the US. If you like, I can provide viewing material which cover S. America and e.g. Russia
 
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There, it's literally impossible you saw us.
 
A quick Google search will demonstrate that there are indeed plenty of sightings outside the US. Coincidentally, South America has historically been a greater hotspot of sightings than in the US. If you like, I can provide viewing material which cover S. America and e.g. Russia

The wife of the ex-prime minister of Japan's wife claims to have been abducted
 
Presidents, or more correctly soon-to-be- Presidents, are not experts on aviation so their sightings are no more valid than any other civilians.

Well, I'm glad you brought that up because pilots, and sometimes astronauts, have echoed seeing what they described as UFOs. The sceptics position on this is simple: ultimately the witness testimony of a guy walking his dog on the street is no more relevant than that of a pilot in the sky; they could both equally misconstrue an atmospheric event to a metallic disc.

So why do I only hear about UFO sightings in the US? Why isn't this a thing in Europe? Do the aliens don't like our Royal with cheese or what?

A quick Google search will demonstrate that there are indeed plenty of sightings outside the US. Coincidentally, South America has historically been a greater hotspot of sightings than in the US. If you like, I can provide viewing material which cover S. America and e.g. Russia

I love your threads Jason, however the more evidence I read about UFOs the more I'm lean towards the theory that most UFO accounts are secret military projects or mis-identifications.

I'd like your opinion on my response to Leeroy3101
 
SR71, A12, YF-12, M21, B2 Spirit, F-117 Nighthawk... they all look like UFOs.

There's a quote from a documentary that sticks in my head:

"As the stealth bombers rolled off the assembly line, rumours surfaced that the military were test flying recovered alien craft at a secret government base known as Area 51"

And this is for two reasons - a) the designs of such aircraft DO like otherworldly - harsh, uncomfortable and unfamiliar shapes. Were these designs influenced by captured UFOs? And b) Perhaps these WERE the UFOs... with such radical design, it's easy to create a link between the two - both from a to b and b to a.

I know I'm having difficulty explaining it here, but I hope you get my point - one thing's for sure - the secrecy and designs of such technology will always be exciting, and there will always be a relation between alien aircraft and government black projects.

I love it.
 
I still want to find out what the ridiculously large, silent black triangular ship was that slowly flew over my house 10 years ago. I was too chicken shit at the time to follow it outside, but if cellphone cameras were status quo back then, I would have had extensive video coverage of it. I'm still under the assumption the military was testing one of their top-secret craft, as I recall a few years later, I remember watching a TLC documentary where they admitted to surfacing one of their submarines in the San Francisco bay and bragged how no one reported it.
 
I still want to find out what the ridiculously large, silent black triangular ship was that slowly flew over my house 10 years ago. I was too chicken shit at the time to follow it outside, but if cellphone cameras were status quo back then, I would have had extensive video coverage of it. I'm still under the assumption the military was testing one of their top-secret craft, as I recall a few years later, I remember watching a TLC documentary where they admitted to surfacing one of their submarines in the San Francisco bay and bragged how no one reported it.

Did you actually see a solid object or did you infer it was there because it appeared to block out the stars?
 
Wasn't there an article that UFOlogy is dying fast because the Internet can easily debunk sightings and the ubiquity of high quality cameras in everyone's pocket and a forum to share them hasn't yielded anything of real interest?
 
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SR71, A12, YF-12, M21, B2 Spirit, F-117 Nighthawk... they all look like UFOs.

There's a quote from a documentary that sticks in my head:



And this is for two reasons - a) the designs of such aircraft DO like otherworldly - harsh, uncomfortable and unfamiliar shapes. Were these designs influenced by captured UFOs? And b) Perhaps these WERE the UFOs... with such radical design, it's easy to create a link between the two - both from a to b and b to a.

I know I'm having difficulty explaining it here, but I hope you get my point - one thing's for sure - the secrecy and designs of such technology will always be exciting, and there will always be a relation between alien aircraft and government black projects.

I love it.

Would you be surprised to learn the designer of the Blackbird (before its inception) had a UFO sighting (corroborated by pilots in a plane in the air at the time)? This is what he claimed to have saw. His description of its performance is amazing.

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Wasn't there an article that UFOlogy is dying fast because the Internet can easily debunk sightings and the ubiquity of high quality cameras in everyone's pocket and a forum to share them hasn't yielded anything of real interest?

I'm not sure what good a phone camera would be in capturing an image of an object hundreds if not thousands of feet in the air. Have you tried taking a photo of an airplane in the sky with your back pocket camera?
 
I still want to find out what the ridiculously large, silent black triangular ship was that slowly flew over my house 10 years ago. I was too chicken shit at the time to follow it outside, but if cellphone cameras were status quo back then, I would have had extensive video coverage of it. I'm still under the assumption the military was testing one of their top-secret craft, as I recall a few years later, I remember watching a TLC documentary where they admitted to surfacing one of their submarines in the San Francisco bay and bragged how no one reported it.

Based on your description, there was an exact same craft reported right by my house last year. Huge black triangle craft, a few thousand feet off the ground that moved dead silent. Was night but those reporting it said it blacked out the stars and was clearly nothing they'd ever seen before.
 
Knowing Cheney's demeanor you could have not asked for a more Cheney-ass-Cheney dead cold corn nuts answer. He stated a fact that any official would state. If it's classified it is classified. The goon they show after that quote on the history channel special looking into his statement as an admission of knowledge truly should be wearing a tinfoil hat, with a propeller beanie on top of it.

And I believe! I'm one of the good ones! Friend!
 
All humans are fallible, even presidents and military. Seeing something that you can't identify does not mean aliens. You might not have even seen what you thought you saw since our senses, perception systems, and memory aren't very good.

Of course the government is concerned about UFOs. They're concerned about anything unidentified flying around our airspace. UFOs =/= aliens.
 
Based on your description, there was an exact same craft reported right by my house last year. Huge black triangle craft, a few thousand feet off the ground that moved dead silent. Was night but those reporting it said it blacked out the stars and was clearly nothing they'd ever seen before.

Have you ever tried to look directly at a star?
 
So why do I only hear about UFO sightings in the US? Why isn't this a thing in Europe? Do the aliens don't like our Royal with cheese or what?

There have been sightings across the planet for a very long time (depending on how you'd like to define UFO).

And yeah UFO != Alien Spaceship, but
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Have you ever tried to look directly at a star?

I'm no expect, but I could imagine what a large object passing over me blocking stars could be like. I didn't witness this, but the report said the object was huge.. blocking out much of the sky as it passed overhead.

*shrug*
 
I'm no expect, but I could imagine what a large object passing over me blocking stars could be like. I didn't witness this, but the report said the object was huge.. blocking out much of the sky as it passed overhead.

*shrug*

You should try it. Look directly at some stars and move your eyes across the sky.
 
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