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EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect
- Thread starter Hanmik
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Internet-only it's a massive damage for the future of next xbox; if it's really true, could lost a lot of gamers, it's not matter of outrage, simply a lot of people don't care to have internet connection to play the game, believe me.
stryker1138
Member
Pretty much the only reason I'm OK with this model on PC is because of Steam's frequent deep discounts. At this point I just don't believe Microsoft would ever be aggressive enough with their sales to offset the lost consumer benefits of buying a used game. To date, their XBLM discounts have been infrequent and usually insignificant.
michaelius
Banned
You can rent games from the shop for a small price of 60$
MoogleWizard
Member
+ paid online + focus on Kinect...
Fighting for that third place again, aren't we Microsoft?
I honestly can't believe they'd be stupid enough to force a constant Internet connection for their console to even work.
I don't like the idea of always on-line either but I can appreciate why it is so tempting to do it.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
No second hand games I can handle, but always online?!? MS can go fuck themselves. I hope Sony don't go down this path, I really can't imagine they will given their strength in developing markets, but there is part of me that worries. I'm out of the next console gen if both require always online.
UberTag
Member
There is absolutely NO WAY one of the next-gen systems will lock out used games and the other won't.
Either BOTH Microsoft and Sony enable this to appease third-party developers and screw Gamestop over... or NEITHER of them will.
It would be suicide for one company to approach this without the other following suit... unless, of course, they adopt an aggressive Steam-like pricing model.
Always online is a tougher nut to crack. I can't see it being especially smart to enforce this out of the box. But I don't believe it would necessarily be a fatal blow, either.
If any company can implement this without a blowback effect, it's Microsoft.
Either BOTH Microsoft and Sony enable this to appease third-party developers and screw Gamestop over... or NEITHER of them will.
It would be suicide for one company to approach this without the other following suit... unless, of course, they adopt an aggressive Steam-like pricing model.
Always online is a tougher nut to crack. I can't see it being especially smart to enforce this out of the box. But I don't believe it would necessarily be a fatal blow, either.
If any company can implement this without a blowback effect, it's Microsoft.
JacksUsername
Member
I don't really buy used except for past generation games or hard to find games, so I wouldn't see too much of an impact in that regard. I do however, borrow and loan out games to friends, which would pretty much eliminate that.
I wonder how game outlets like Giant Bomb, IGN, etc. will feel about this if it becomes reality. If its tied to an account, they could still play from the office system and home system, but we may get fewer varied impressions if multiple people from the office can't play the game without everyone purchasing a copy.
Constant online, if true, is a terrible idea.
I wonder how game outlets like Giant Bomb, IGN, etc. will feel about this if it becomes reality. If its tied to an account, they could still play from the office system and home system, but we may get fewer varied impressions if multiple people from the office can't play the game without everyone purchasing a copy.
Constant online, if true, is a terrible idea.
Glass Rebel
Member
They already do.
grimshawish
Banned
Probably has some sort of allowance.
Seriously; if MS uses this to pass information from Kinect...I don't think they've fully thought things through...
Broder Salsa
Banned
Yes I find that hard to believe, there's just too big a market that never even connects their consoles.
This.
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
I somehow really doubt that. Always-online requirement is ludicrous. They *can* probably get away with blocking second hand games.
terrdactycalsrock
Member
Yeah I dont understand what the big fuss is about. Isnt everything always connected to the internet anyways? My computer, tablet, and 360 are always online anyways. The only disgusting part is the second hand games stuff.
Chiaroscuro
Member
I find hard to believe in an always-on-internet-required solution. That will alianate a lot of gamers.
However, preventing 2nd hand games is a possibility. But do not think one company (either MS or Sony) will do something different from the other. They will both be in line, no matter if preventing or not the 2nd hand market.
However, preventing 2nd hand games is a possibility. But do not think one company (either MS or Sony) will do something different from the other. They will both be in line, no matter if preventing or not the 2nd hand market.
Maybe 'requires internet connection' means that it's required for the one-time activation of the software. But you can play activated software without a net connection thereafter.
Rather than actually needing a constant, permanent connection in order to function at all.
Rather than actually needing a constant, permanent connection in order to function at all.
Exactly what I'm thinking. If Microsoft go this route and Sony don't, that's an immediate benefit to the PS4's image as being a more open and consumer-friendly console.
I'd be more alright with this if there was some guarantee that console games' pricing model would change, but I can't see that happening. And I'm actually less concerned with the notion of 'always online' than I am games being restricted to one owner and one owner only.
ionicbluebird
Member
And again I'll plead.. Sony don't do this!
In fact it's in Sony's best interest not to do this, as there seems to be huge backlash to Microsoft allegedly doing so... and rightfully!
Again, the same has been said about charging for online play, and yet here we are.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Okay, maybe I can get around second hand games by buying mostly online but always connected to the Internet? If that's true then I am sorry Microsoft, no amount of Halos could make me buy the next Xbox.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Officerrob
Banned
Considering that I believe the first sentence is extremely unlikely, it kinda throws the rest of the article into question.
If Sony does this as well leaving the WiiU as the only one not doing it then that will be a very very hard pill to swallow for some people here.
phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
No second-hand games, huh? That'll be interesting in in the way of unintended consequences.
Objective: butter up developers by locking out secondhand to boost developer revenue
Results:
- No sales of new "slim" console as people won't be able to play their games on it
- No entry point for people who can't pay full price, lower uptake of games/genres
- No game sharing = lower exposure to games = reduced sales
- Whatever goodies and massive fines the European Commission comes up with
Objective: butter up developers by locking out secondhand to boost developer revenue
Results:
- No sales of new "slim" console as people won't be able to play their games on it
- No entry point for people who can't pay full price, lower uptake of games/genres
- No game sharing = lower exposure to games = reduced sales
- Whatever goodies and massive fines the European Commission comes up with
No, Nextbox will be 100% efficient from the beginning and power is a wash and devs love it.
Because two sources said so.
I would really hate always online for ANYTHING. Steam has an offline mode and pc gamers are raising hell about always on DRM and in some cases the publishers cave in, so it is NOT comparable. MS didn't give a fuck about people not wanting to pay for online, why would they care now? Blizzard doesn't.
I don't buy used games, but sure want to be able to switch accounts on a system for auto save reasons and be able to play my games on at LEAST 2 different consoles.
You're giving the average modern-day console gamer way too much credit. I doubt the majority of them will even be aware of this requirement before buying it.
There's more to always online than 2nd hand games imo.
It's all the bs about your online profile I don't like. Link your GT to your email address / Facebook account / twitter and anything else. I find that more offensive than the proposal of restricting or stopping 2nd hand sales.
It's all the bs about your online profile I don't like. Link your GT to your email address / Facebook account / twitter and anything else. I find that more offensive than the proposal of restricting or stopping 2nd hand sales.
it's the end of an era !!
It's basically the same thing as STEAM. I don't see the problem here. At least it'll help be the death of Gamestop
Just imagining the consequences of this move is horrific, especially for Canadians that have to deal with limited bandwidth! Can't bring games over to friends/relatives. Severely limits portability of the console... man.
Halo/Gears/Forza aren't nearly worth dealing with all that bullshit and it's not as if they'll have many 3rd-party exclusives at all.
Just damn, MS is fucking up.
Halo/Gears/Forza aren't nearly worth dealing with all that bullshit and it's not as if they'll have many 3rd-party exclusives at all.
Just damn, MS is fucking up.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
This is too stupid to be true.
My fears stem from the time when Sony had that security breach and PSN was down for ages, and you couldn't boot up Capcom(?) PSN games to play at all.
There is a horrible risk with this system.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
Remember the thread asking how Microsoft or Sony could cluster their launches? Internet requirement and no used games are top five blunders.
You can transfer your content licenses already, so I doubt that will be a problem.