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[Bowdz]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

 

[Kaako]

Dat rant

You are a true gentleman and a scholar, good sir. Godspeed.

 

[rakkadakka]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

A+++ Would rant again.

 

[Pachterballs]

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

lololol

 

[RustyNails]

The thread is now complete. Wrap it up boys.

 

[Insane Metal]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

 

[Mesoian]

The thread is now complete. Wrap it up boys.

See you guys at the update. This thread had a good run.

 

[BigEvilTurtle]

I laughed way too hard at this.

 

[Uno Venova]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

not even mad at you, not endorsing it tho

 

[alphaNoid]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

So if consoles restrict second hand market you're going to go play on PC, which hasn't had a second hand market in 20 years?

 

[Neverender]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

And you're going to put that money into a gaming pc? Ok dude...

 

[Currygan]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

 

[DangerousDave]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

Piracy apology is a very fast way to account suicide.

People here is overreacting A LOT.

Not even the devs, with their devkits will know for sure what MS will do. Even if the devkits are able to detect somehow second hand games, or even if the devkits require internet connection, they CAN'T know what will be MS policy about internet connection and second hand market. And those are also options that can be disabled with a simple firmware upgrade if the result are not

I don't see a mandatory internet connection to play physical games because that will leave a good chunk of their userbase out. Maybe they will require a mandatory connection each time that you play a digital game, or each time that you play a physical installed game (to allow complete installations without requiring to add the physical disc anymore, but preventing the installation of retail copies in several machines). But the regular "buy retail game, play the game on the console" won't change.

I don't see also a "ban second hand games". Those games generate money in DLC form, so I don't see them banning you to play a second hand game. But maybe that can introduce some kind of "generic online pass" (or even a "generic offline pass", to get a part of the benefits of the second hand sale). Or maybe they will simply ban the second hand games that have been tagged in a lot of different machines, to prevent the game rentals.

But we don't know. The devs don't know, they only can know the possibilities of the machine, not how MS will use them. Probably even MS don't know yet, because it will depend of a lot of factors that are not clear.

 

[FateBreaker]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

You generally should not use the words "I," "will," and "pirate" together.

 

[PhatSaqs]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:.

 

[Glorified G]

My favorite part is him breaking the games he already bought.

 

[Regulus Tera]

I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

Oh boy.

 

[Arkham]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

You have a large stockpile of weapons and canned food, bottled water, etc. etc. in your bunker, right?

 

[MrDaravon]

Okay, I've gone from being annoyed as fuck over the general developments and posts the last few days to being amused by it again.

I swear to God I don't remember the last gen transition being nearly as bad on GAF though.

 

[Raoh]

LMFAO

 

[ChosenPredator]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

You just went full Super Saiyan dumb, I've never seen this before.

 

[djSyndrome]

Somewhere, deep inside Microsoft, they have likely run the numbers comparisons on this. If the projected loss for non-connected customers is less than the projected revenue gains from every game being a first-run copy only, it would make perfect sense.

Microsoft is a business. They are not in business to make you feel good about yourself and your extreme views on gaming. They exist to make money.

 

[Spongebob]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

I agree 90000%

 

[LuCkymoON]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

You do know that the used PC games market was killed off in pretty much the same fashion, right?

 

[CadetMahoney]

This is why these rumors are so enjoyable. We still don't really know jack

The payoff isn't the current opinions but whether or not they are validated or not (true/false).

 

[Yagharek]

Wow. I would never use that as an excuse to go down the naughty path, I just would stop buying anything from that company again. Plenty of good content is available elsewhere where platform holders don't treat you with contempt.

 

[Gorillaz]

Nothing like a good meltdown to end the day.


I should just cancel cable at this point.

 

[Spongebob]

You do know that the used PC games market was killed off in pretty much the same fashion, right?

arghhh..

On PC you can buy new games for very low prices so that compensates for the inability to buy/sell used games. You'd have to be pretty naive to think that MS would follow the same pricing system. If nextbox is anti-used games and always online, games will still be $60+, consumers will still be nicked and dimed at every turn and MS will still charge who knows how many dollars for the ability to even play games online.

I have no idea why people are trying to make the two sound like equivalents.

 

[rrs]

To be honest, it was pretty hilarious. It was obviously done on purpose for the hell of it.

Yeah, it was made to be the mother of all low quality leak videos

 

[abadguy]

lol this made my day. Thank you.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

This and the PS4 gif thread is some GAF at it's prime.

 

[KaYotiX]

So if consoles restrict second hand market you're going to go play on PC, which hasn't had a second hand market in 20 years?

LOL, came to say this.

All the rage yet PC has been this way for a looong time.

 

[rdrr gnr]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

I admire your passion, Moostache.

 

[Anth0ny]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

 

[~Kinggi~]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

spare this one GAF gods, its for a good cause.

 

[ginger ninja]

them sweet next gen meltdowns ! lawd have mercy

 

[shuri]

I own over 100+ retail 360 game, i've been a member of xbl since the xbox days, I even owned more than those 100+ retail games, because I resold about 20 of them on ebay at one point to fund for something else. I've owned over5 xboxes 360 over the years since launch due to the various hardware problems of the first unit; and bla bla bla. I never buy used games, but I live in a rather poor area, and whenever I visit a gaming shop, i see tons of kids raiding the cheap used bins. For kids, used games are an incredible deal.

Preventing this is just.. shitty. It's not cool for gamers, for families and for the kids who cant afford new titles all the time but just want something to play to waste some time. I expect a massive backfire from mainstream, average joes. Parents will simply go for another console if the games are cheaper and if they can play those cheap used copies. I hope that Microsoft is not forgetting about the giant monster that is Apple and Android powered devices. The Initial cost of the device can be expensive, but I am expecting that parents will simply move to them. Those 1.99$ purchases keep the kids busy just well enough.

I honestly hope that Microsoft will reconsider this decision. Even if it's not a problem for me, I will not consider it as a viable purchase, even if I never buy used games myself. If Sony pulls this stunt to, I will simply move back to PC gaming.

It's just a terrible business practice; and since I am into collecting, this no second-hand policy will kill the collecting marketing eventually.

 

[SparkTR]

LOL, came to say this.

All the rage yet PC has been this way for a looong time.

The cheap prices and aggressive competition among PC digital stores makes it better than the retail/used games market, where else can you get new release AAA games for $30? If Microsoft can emulate that I'd say everybody on GAF (including me) will enjoy the digital console future, but they won't and they'll rip you off. Walled gardens and DD don't go well together.

 

[Nutter]

arghhh..

On PC you can buy new games for very low prices so that compensates for the inability to buy/sell used games. You'd have to be pretty naive to think that MS would follow the same pricing system. If nextbox is anti-used games and always online, games will still be $60+, consumers will still be nicked and dimed at every turn and MS will still charge who knows how many dollars for the ability to even play games online.

I have no idea why people are trying to make the two sound like equivalents.

Im sure people were saying the same once the used market for the PC was killed.. OMG the prices will never come down. Why are you speculating what MS will or will not do if this gets confirmed. Steam did not become famous for their sales over night. If Sony follows what is there to stop them from keeping the prices high on PSN? just because they fucked up security wise and have been generous to their fanbase through PSN and PSN+, they are still in it to make money.

 

[steven28]

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

Perfectly said and exactly my thoughts.

 

[Wellscha]

The cheap prices and aggressive competition among PC digital stores makes it better than the retail/used games market, where else can you get new release AAA games for $30? If Microsoft can emulate that I'd say everybody on GAF (including me) will enjoy the digital console future, but they won't and they'll rip you off. Walled gardens and DD don't go well together.

Paying $30 for a game that's 12 - 18 months old =/= released at $30.

 

[The Hermit]

Sooo...do I ban you now, or wait until confirmation?

Damn, this is going to one tense MS press conference for one of us!

lol, this is why you are my fav. mod/gaffer

And yeah, I have no idea how will be the reaction. One thing for sure is that this won't sell in Japan at all

 

[enzo_gt]

Fuck 'em....if and when this news is confirmed; I am going to do 2 things:

1) Refuse to ever buy it (my PC rig will get the cash instead of consoles)

2) I will pirate the shit out of every single XB360 I own - I have 5 consoles in my home now, and they will ALL get chipped and flashed and made ready to run copies and non-official code - and I will also pirate every game from my back log - I'll snap the discs that haven't yet been played but that I own in half and download illegal copies of them just because I can, and any game that I MIGHT have been tempted to buy in the console transition years will strictly come from the black market as well.

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I dare them to be this stupid.

 

[rakkadakka]

The cheap prices and aggressive competition among PC digital stores makes it better than the retail/used games market

Most high end games don't get a big price cut until a couple steam sales have passed. I bought Black Ops II on Xbox, put a good amount of time in and sold it for grand cost of $20. Going by previous COD games, it's going to be 2 years until BO II is $20 on steam.

 

[Trigger]

Sooo...do I ban you now, or wait until confirmation?

Damn, this is going to one tense MS press conference for one of us!

LMAO. This post got me.

 

[Reiko]

Sooo...do I ban you now, or wait until confirmation?

Damn, this is going to one tense MS press conference for one of us!

lol

 

[border]

Paying $30 for a game that's 12 - 18 months old =/= released at $30.

Dishonored was $30 for quite some time, on a lot of services. I believe Assassin's Creed 3 was as well.

 

[Spongebob]

Im sure people were saying the same once the used market for the PC was killed.. OMG the prices will never come down. Why are you speculating what MS will or will not do if this gets confirmed. Steam did not become famous for their sales over night. If Sony follows what is there to stop them from keeping the prices high on PSN? just because they fucked up security wise and have been generous to their fanbase through PSN and PSN+, they are still in it to make money.

Do you really trust MS?

 

[Kainazzo]

These money grubbing control freaks can suck my balls if they think for one minute that I have any intention of supporting ANY product that tells ME how I can CHOOSE to use it or place draconian restrictions on me as part of the deal for using said product. Its time these fuckers wake up and realize that the only thing that gives any of their product value is the desire of people to experience it. Start dictating how that can happen in such ham-fisted ways and its game over, pun intended.

I see the word 'draconian' pop up all the time whenever I see topics like this. Now, I'm not arguing against the validity of it in this context, but I'm curious as to why the phrase 'draconian DRM' is almost a single word unto itself. Where did it start? If this word no longer existed, what would replace it? Unfair DRM? Disdainful DRM? What would people say?

Legitimately curious, I wouldn't honestly prod over tiny details. I only see 'draconian' used online when DRM/copyright is concerned.