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[Blueandigo]

Yeah, thats the thing with controllers. It's hard to get 1 controller that EVERYONE loves. Everyone has some sort of preference. For instance, I like the looseness of the sticks and dislike the resistance of the 360 one. Its opposite for other people. I'm willing to sacrifice some stuff if it means more people enjoy using the controller.

Btw, Dualshock 3 fans, question:

Do you hope that R1 is still used as the "shoot" button rather than R2 if R2 is turned into "triggers". R1 is just so much more comfortable to use for me personally. But I fear they will change it to be more inline with the xbox unfortunately.

I want ps2 controls back. Especially when it comes to my GTA games. I was okay with press X to drive and all of that other jazz.

 

[Konosuke]

I thought the face buttons were only pressure sensitive on PS2 (causing me major headaches in MGS2-3), are you sure PS3's were too?

They also have a pressure sensitive dpad. The loss of analog buttons is very disappointing, MGS and Ace Combat made great use of them.

 

[Uno Venova]

Right, and? I'm just saying that Sony adapted their controller to be like the 360's in ways because the 360's was better in some areas. I hope Microsoft does the same for their next console, the d-pad for instance.



Oh boy.

If you're saying right, I don't know why you said people are afraid of any kind of change before.

 

[Izick]

So it's the Fumblesticks 3 with a screen on it? Was hoping for something all new or either a straight up rip off of the magnificent 360 controller+ improved d-pad.

It's not at all though. It's bigger, the triggers are fixed, the d-pad is better, and the sticks are a concave/convex hybrid type of deal.

If you're saying right, I don't know why you said people are afraid of any kind of change before.

I said "people like you" (not you, I was talking to the other guy), not everyone.

 

[Curufinwe]

How so? The awkward slush paddles on the DS3 are far worse.

Lol. Slush paddles is a good term for them.

 

[LastNac]

Right. The sticks are redone from the Dualshock. The triggers were redone because they were garbage on the DS3. The problem is that people like you are afraid of any kind of change what so ever, and think that a controller's design should be sacred.

Didn't really use L2 and R2 really. Frankly, I came to really enjoy both L1 and R1 for any shooting, hope they come back in that way.

 

[Blueandigo]

Right, and? I'm just saying that Sony adapted their controller to be like the 360's in ways because the 360's was better in some areas. I hope Microsoft does the same for their next console, the d-pad for instance.



Oh boy.

Loyalty at it's finest.

 

[Raoh]

Yeah, thats the thing with controllers. It's hard to get 1 controller that EVERYONE loves. Everyone has some sort of preference. For instance, I like the looseness of the sticks and dislike the resistance of the 360 one. Its opposite for other people. I'm willing to sacrifice some stuff if it means more people enjoy using the controller.

Btw, Dualshock 3 fans, question:

Do you hope that R1 is still used as the "shoot" button rather than R2 if R2 is turned into "triggers". R1 is just so much more comfortable to use for me personally. But I fear they will change it to be more inline with the xbox unfortunately.

I would definitely prefer to keep the R1 for shooting.

But honestly a better option would be to:

1. Allow all games to allow you the gamer to choose.
1a. A profile setting would be nice. Set up your favorite FPS/TPS controller settings and have each game search/load that profile.

That would be also nice for character customization. I always make my rpg characters look like me, Why do I have to create a new one each time? Load my custom character profile preference, I can make adjustments later.

 

[TheGreyHulk]

of course L1/R1 was more comfortable to use that L2/R2 on the DS3. L2/R2 was an afterthought for that controller. They just slapped it in and said fuck it...

when this new controller comes out, i bet it will be more natural to rest your hands on the triggers than the front shoulder buttons because it will be designed in that nature the same way the DS series was designed with L1/R1 as being primary shoulder buttons

 

[plainr_]

Yeah, thats the thing with controllers. It's hard to get 1 controller that EVERYONE loves. Everyone has some sort of preference. For instance, I like the looseness of the sticks and dislike the resistance of the 360 one. Its opposite for other people. I'm willing to sacrifice some stuff if it means more people enjoy using the controller.

Btw, Dualshock 3 fans, question:

Do you hope that R1 is still used as the "shoot" button rather than R2 if R2 is turned into "triggers". R1 is just so much more comfortable to use for me personally. But I fear they will change it to be more inline with the xbox unfortunately.

Please god, no R2 to shoot. I don't care how good the trigger is. R1 for life!

 

[LastNac]

Yeah, thats the thing with controllers. It's hard to get 1 controller that EVERYONE loves. Everyone has some sort of preference. For instance, I like the looseness of the sticks and dislike the resistance of the 360 one. Its opposite for other people. I'm willing to sacrifice some stuff if it means more people enjoy using the controller.

Btw, Dualshock 3 fans, question:

Do you hope that R1 is still used as the "shoot" button rather than R2 if R2 is turned into "triggers". R1 is just so much more comfortable to use for me personally. But I fear they will change it to be more inline with the xbox unfortunately.

I agree, I want to stick with R1 and L1.

 

[Izick]

Didn't really use L2 and R2 really. Frankly, I came to really enjoy both L1 and R1 for any shooting, hope they come back in that way.

If developers are smart then that'd be a secondary option, but I honestly can't go back to anything without triggers. I will say no matter what I'm happy because anything is a step up from the L2/R2 on the PS3. I've been playing Saints Row 2 and I was disappointed that there's no L1/R1 option like in SR3.

 

[Allonym]

Yeah, thats the thing with controllers. It's hard to get 1 controller that EVERYONE loves. Everyone has some sort of preference. For instance, I like the looseness of the sticks and dislike the resistance of the 360 one. Its opposite for other people. I'm willing to sacrifice some stuff if it means more people enjoy using the controller.

Btw, Dualshock 3 fans, question:

Do you hope that R1 is still used as the "shoot" button rather than R2 if R2 is turned into "triggers". R1 is just so much more comfortable to use for me personally. But I fear they will change it to be more inline with the xbox unfortunately.

Every game should come with user customisable controls

 

[Mikey Jr.]

I would definitely prefer to keep the R1 for shooting.

But honestly a better option would be to:

1. Allow all games to allow you the gamer to choose.
1a. A profile setting would be nice. Set up your favorite FPS/TPS controller settings and have each game search/load that profile.

That would be also nice for character customization. I always make my rpg characters look like me, Why do I have to create a new one each time? Load my custom character profile preference, I can make adjustments later.

OMG. An option at the system level to switch

R1->R2
and
L1->L2

would be fucking AMAZING. Omg, Sony, do it please, for the Love of God. I don't trust developers to do it in their games.

 

[Graphics Horse]

of course L1/R1 was more comfortable to use that L2/R2 on the DS3. L2/R2 was an afterthought for that controller. They just slapped it in and said fuck it...

when this new controller comes out, i bet it will be more natural to rest your hands on the triggers than the front shoulder buttons because it will be designed in that nature the same way the DS series was designed with L1/R1 as being primary shoulder buttons

Are you saying they should make L2/R2 primary? That sounds the wrong way round to me. They just need to make the L2/R2 more comfortable to use with your middle finger and make the controller better to hold when all your fingers are there. R1 for shoot is better than moving your finger up and down.

 

[Wynnebeck]

So it's the Fumblesticks 3 with a screen on it? Was hoping for something all new or either a straight up rip off of the magnificent 360 controller+ improved d-pad.

I'd ask if you were trolling or being serious but I think we all know the answer to that.

Spoiler

Neither

 

[nib95]

Yeah, that's why they changed the sticks, shape, and the triggers of the thing almost completely. Yeah, you're right.

Joke post? Looks basically like a DS3, only slightly modified. Looks nothing like the 360 pad. Lol.

 

[Drain You]

I am so shocked people still would prefer L1 or R1 or whatever to be used to shoot. I don't know in my head the way a "trigger" button is shaped just makes the most sense for what it is being used for.

 

[Nizz]

Yeah, thats the thing with controllers. It's hard to get 1 controller that EVERYONE loves. Everyone has some sort of preference. For instance, I like the looseness of the sticks and dislike the resistance of the 360 one. Its opposite for other people. I'm willing to sacrifice some stuff if it means more people enjoy using the controller.

Btw, Dualshock 3 fans, question:

Do you hope that R1 is still used as the "shoot" button rather than R2 if R2 is turned into "triggers". R1 is just so much more comfortable to use for me personally. But I fear they will change it to be more inline with the xbox unfortunately.

I do hope devs offer both layouts (R1/L1 to aim/shoot) or R2/L2 if they have indeed been improved. I personally would use L1/R1.

And I hope that controller in the OP is an older pic and the controller is more in line with Sony's dualshock controllers in the end.

 

[3rdamention]

Afraid of change? The changes already made are mostly embraced.

I embrace the change as well. I just like the way the DS analogs are and posted about that earlier, I'm glad that stayed the same. Otherwise I am open to any other changes...

 

[Izick]

OMG. An option at the system level to switch

R1->R2
and
L1->L2

would be fucking AMAZING. Omg, Sony, do it please, for the Love of God. I don't trust developers to do it in their games.

Wouldn't that be a problem if LR1 are digital and LR2 aren't?

 

[TheExecutive]

I don't like the analog placement and I wish they would just go for a placement like the 360. The ridges on the analog pads may work great though.

The touchpad seems absolutely unnecessary and a stupid gimmick. Does anyone have a good use for it? I am interested in hearing ideas for it as I have a hard time of thinking about many.

 

[LastNac]

If developers are smart then that'd be a secondary option, but I honestly can't go back to anything without triggers. I will say no matter what I'm happy because anything is a step up from the L2/R2 on the PS3. I've been playing Saints Row 2 and I was disappointed that there's no L1/R1 option like in SR3.

L1 and R1 fit the end digit of my index finger perfectly. I really have come to like the current controls.

 

[alr1ght]

I am so shocked people still would prefer L1 or R1 or whatever to be used to shoot. I don't know in my head the way a "trigger" button is shaped just makes the most sense for what it is being used for.

It's on or off. You can fire quicker with a regular button. R2 on the DS3 is just awkward to use.

 

[Meelow]

Looks a little bigger than the DS3 controller, happy about that.

I'm just wondering how it feels.

 

[raven777]

Another source has told IGN that the mysterious space in the middle of the controller can be pressed like a button

do they mean that the touchpad is actually clickable as well?

 

[Izick]

do they mean that the touchpad is actually clickable as well?

That's what all the rumors point to.

 

[Oublieux]

Wouldn't that be a problem if LR1 are digital and LR2 aren't?

He meant that it would be great as a system-level option and not an in-game option. This way, the user doesn't have to rely on the game offering the swap of the L/R1's and L/R2's. The user could just choose to change it him/herself.

And, yeah, it could be a problem in some games where pressure is necessary, but they seem to be talking about FPS's specifically. In this case, twitch shooting is easier/quicker with a binary digital L1/R1 than fully depressing a trigger.

 

[Graphics Horse]

do they mean that the touchpad is actually clickable as well?

Yes, this was in the old Kotaku scoop.

 

[Doug Heffernan]

Trust me sir, you're not the only one disgusted by these tactics. Rising above the clear corporate machine is something we as gamers must do. Onward we must push in order to secure a place where we as gamers are no longer taken advantage of. Look, I know some of you fine folk are okay with blatant plagiarism in the industry. Let us reject in this instance though the clear shenanigans and gimmickery this controller represents. I know I won't be there day 1 for PS4's launch. Nor will I be there for day 2 of PS4's launch. Gone are the days where honor was a concept that pervaded the Japanese gaming industry.

 

[Izick]

He meant that it would be great as a system-level option and not an in-game option. This way, the user doesn't have to rely on the game offering the swap of the L/R1's and L/R2's. The user could just choose to change it him/herself.

And, yeah, it could be a problem in some games where pressure is necessary, but they seem to be talking about FPS's specifically. In this case, twitch shooting is easier/quicker with a binary digital L1/R1 than fully depressing a trigger.

Yeah, I knew what he meant but I could still see that running into problems. Regardless, it would be great if all buttons could be swapped to different places if the game doesn't call for pressure sensitive stuff.

 

[Vic]

Looks ok.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Wouldn't that be a problem if LR1 are digital and LR2 aren't?

No idea.

 

[Oublieux]

The touchpad seems absolutely unnecessary and a stupid gimmick. Does anyone have a good use for it? I am interested in hearing ideas for it as I have a hard time of thinking about many.

I'm not 100% fond of it but I can imagine it being useful for web browsing while pausing mid-game, looking up a FAQ in a browser, and so on. Other than that, I'm not sure how it would complement gaming because I can only see myself using my two thumbs to touch the area if necessary (otherwise I would have to take one hand off). It seems more useful on the system side.

 

[Drain You]

It's on or off. You can fire quicker with a regular button. R2 on the DS3 is just awkward to use.

I am definitely just not used to the DS3 enough for this to make sense in my head. I am going to borrow a couple of FPS games for PS3 and come back in a week to let you know if I think you are crazy or not

 

[3rdamention]

I would hope so. I think Move on the controller is a great idea.

I'm still trying to think how I would hold it to play Move styled party games...How could I hold it with 1 hand and the camera still detect the light? Would be weird...

 

[Pooya]

so looks like polygon has other shots ?

Michael McWhertor ‏@MikeMcWhertor

Seeing the PS4 prototype controller from other angles, it doesn't look as crazy bulky as that one leaked shot.

 

[Izick]

so looks like polygon has other shots ?

Grain of salt but that worries me.

 

[rekameohs]

I am looking at my ps3 controller now, no idea how they will get a screen on here, but knowing sony they will make it happen.

It's not a screen though, right?

 

[LastNac]

Grain of salt but that worries me.

Why, you wan't bulk?

 

[Loudninja]

Grain of salt but that worries me.

Why?

 

[Izick]

Why, you wan't bulk?

Why?

I liked that it was larger like the 360 controller.

 

[BlazinAm]

Trust me sir, you're not the only one disgusted by these tactics. Rising above the clear corporate machine is something we as gamers must do. Onward we must push in order to secure a place where we as gamers are no longer taken advantage of. Look, I know some of you fine folk are okay with blatant plagiarism in the industry. Let us reject in this instance though the clear shenanigans and gimmickery this controller represents. I know I won't be there day 1 for PS4's launch. Nor will I be there for day 2 of PS4's launch. Gone are the days where honor was a concept that pervaded the Japanese gaming industry.

what are you talking about?

 

[Oublieux]

I am definitely just not used to the DS3 enough for this to make sense in my head. I am going to borrow a couple of FPS games for PS3 and come back in a week to let you know if I think you are crazy or not

You can say the same for a 360 controller though. Just imagine pressing the bumpers to aim/fire instead of the triggers. The bumpers only require a short press to fully activate; it's all or nothing. The triggers require you to fully depress the button all the way down until it aim/fires. Same thing with the PS3 controller... except the PS3 triggers are mushier.

 

[Dark_AnNiaLatOr]

Hope Polygon made that up. I definitely want a larger controller, please oh please!

 

[Exentryk]

I wonder why they changed those analog sticks.

 

[Izick]

You can say the same for a 360 controller though. Just imagine pressing the bumpers to aim/fire instead of the triggers. The bumpers only require a short press to fully activate; it's all or nothing. The triggers require you to fully depress the button all the way down until it aim/fires. Same thing with the PS3 controller... except the PS3 triggers are mushier.

No, that wouldn't work. The 360's bumpers are too small in comparison to LR1.

 

[Sandfox]

That controller looks kinda ugly IMO.

 

[Izick]

That controller looks kinda ugly IMO.

Would you rather have aesthetics or comfort? Not saying you can't have both but if you could only pick one.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

so looks like polygon has other shots ?

Spill it!!