Mr.Wreckless
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The newest iPhones are more than 199 when they are first released.
Most phone models drop in price around the time they are going to announce something new.
iPads are around the same price and you get a lot less.
Kotaku Rumor: PS4 out in November, control with your phone/tablet, maybe $429/529
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The newest iPhones are more than 199 when they are first released.
Most phone models drop in price around the time they are going to announce something new.
iPads are around the same price and you get a lot less.
UberTag
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They'll take the change just fine if early adopters get their first 3-12 months of paid online multiplayer (and other PSWorld amenities) covered at no additional cost.
Not for non contract phones. Like the nexus4 for instance.
And really the whole contract business is a scam to trick people into thinking its not costing so much.
Neuromancer
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Where are they going to go? Not every console gamer is going to run out to buy a PC.
Puppet Shadow
Member
Ever gone to a movie on opening night?
phosphor112
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All of your posts reek of fanboyism. Leave it out of these threads.
Few actually pay list price for cell phones though, they upgrade on the cheap with contract renewals. The ones who do are the equivalent of those who build thousand-plus dollar gaming PCs.
I don't see how anyone could reasonably expect less than $399 though. That's basically the market equivalent of $299 in 2001.
Manmademan
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that hasn't been true for a long time. If you're talking back in 2007, or 2008 that's true- but the market has changed. Iphones aren't revolutionary, everybody and their mom has one or a knockoff.
new phones are $199 or less.
VERY few US customers buy phones off contract. The portability simply isn't there. CDMA phones are locked to their networks (sprint or verizon) and AT&T and Tmobile's 3g networks aren't compatible.
Uh, huh. Go on.
Neuromancer
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How many Mountain Dews am I going to have to drink to accrue 1000 Dew points?
Fanboys starting to come out in full force. It's like 2006 again.
I'm intrigued by your viewpoint. Continue.
Delusibeta
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I'd like to think Sleeping Dogs is a large enough bullet point for this month.
Mr.Wreckless
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Droid Razr Maxx is more than 199.
Galaxy Note 2 is more than 199.
Galaxy S3 is 320 with T-Mobile.
iPads arent subsidized for the most part and those go from 300-900 bucks.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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You should be wondering how many Doritos you need to eat to get your ps world avatar level to 99 with XP.
Epic meltdown. Everything bad in the console space is Microsoft's fault?
Sakura
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That's just how people are I guess. I'm sure people will complain when games become $70, even though $70 today is the same as $60 8 years ago
Delusibeta
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Tablets and smartphones they already own, obviously. Oh, and League of Legends/DOTA 2/Minecraft.
Last ones were the LOTR movies, at midnight to boot. Not really doable with a family nowadays.
I guess this just shows how nerds despite being super intelligent are complete dumbass consumers.
"Hey nameless corporation that exists purely for profit, please exploit me more so your execs can eat sushi off a slightly prettier girl next friday."
Vermillion
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Paid online...
Orbis is now a "wait for a bit and see" from "buy."
Reversing direction...
Orbis is now a "wait for a bit and see" from "buy."
Reversing direction...
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Outrageously priced then, outrageously priced now.
Fourth Storm
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Everyone saying "529 - I'm ok with that!" are you insane? You know Sony is gauging market reaction to these prices? They probably have people watching this very thread. Maybe it's one of you! But yeah, this is the reason we got a $250 3DS. Don't let Sony think they can get away with it.
Also not liking these PS World rumors. Many current PS3 owners stay loyal because they see the value in Playstation Plus. It's fine if new features are locked behind a paywall, but I agree with those who argue that online multiplayer must remain free.
Also not liking these PS World rumors. Many current PS3 owners stay loyal because they see the value in Playstation Plus. It's fine if new features are locked behind a paywall, but I agree with those who argue that online multiplayer must remain free.
Apparently I had a meltdown earlier.
Projectjustice
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I remember paying $80-$90 per game back in the early-mid 90s.
iPads and other tablets are replacing laptops and PCs with consumers.
There's a bigger market for that type of thing.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I can't imagine anybody reasonable thinks $529 is ok. The system would be DOA. It would basically show that Sony had learned nothing from the PS3 launch.
Phone only (no contract prices per amazon):
Razr Maxx is 699.
Galaxy Note 2 is 699.
Galaxy S3 is $550
Stabby McSter
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lol
Manmademan
Member
69.99 with new activation at radio shack.
It's $299 on AT&T, and that one is significantly larger than a standard phone- it's a tablet/phone hybrid.
and $99 on sprint. (edit: that tmobile price is the off contract price for that. it's $179.99 on contract)
you REALLY have to bend over backwards to find a situation where a cellphone runs more than $199 on contract.
I could easily list you 50 or 60 new phones that run $0 to $199, and this is where the vast majority of phones are now.
Sakura
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Yea. And there were GBA games that were 40 dollars back in 2001 money yet people today complain about 3DS games being 40 dollars. It's just crazy to me.
MakeMeFeelAlive
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A lot of people freaking out without knowing the details. Sony charges for premium features now. I doubt thwyll charge to play online. I doubt they hide third party services behind a paywall. But i can easiky see them charging for premium services (which they already do), especially with gaikai.
You have NO right to say that, and the way you phrased it frankly disgusts me. The only way we as gamers should "show our appreciation" for a studio's output is to buy that output, and maybe also some merch. That's all the "appreciation" they should ask for, or deserve.
Furthermore, unless you have actual shares in Sony Corp., you're only damaging yourself and your fellow gamers by taking the corporation's side in all this. Frankly, the only reasons I want Sony to stick around are PS+ and to be a buffer against Microsoft dominating everything. If Sony vanished tomorrow, I'd be upset, but life would go on, just like before. I'd still have my PC, all's right with the world...for now.
Clearly a Gaf member lol.
Delusibeta
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I'll have to admit, pretty much, yeah. They popularised the concept of DLC with Halo 2's map packs, they popularised patches for console games, they're the only company outside of a dwindling number of MMOs to charge for multiplayer and they're pretty much the reason why western developers left PCs en-mass in favour of consoles.
[Edit] Also, all those fucking adverts!
Projectjustice
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My Note 2 cost me $300 with a 2 year plan at $80 per month. Yea they are making their money. lol
Mr.Wreckless
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But comparing the technology in an iPad to what you are getting with these consoles its not even close. If people see no problem paying Apple 400-900 bucks for a tablet i see no reason why people are surprised by the price of the consoles.
We just had 2 weeks of people crying that the consoles werent even going to contain the best technology available today and people are crying over this price. I cant imagine how much these things would cost if they went with top of the line everything like people were clamoring for.
People want a beastly powerful system but dont want to pay for it. Come on now.
How can people even judge based on we don't know whats included in either price. Hell it could just be the same hardware with a year of playstation plus premium.
a bit more expensive, a little later, and with unexpected fees. yup, this is likely true.
funny, i would have predicted xbox live to move more towards the psn+ model (required, but with freebies), rather then playstation moving more towards live. maybe they'll converge somewhere in the middle.
funny, i would have predicted xbox live to move more towards the psn+ model (required, but with freebies), rather then playstation moving more towards live. maybe they'll converge somewhere in the middle.
Thinks that is too cheap. Should be $599 with a nice SDD drive.
Agree they should add value instead or lock thin behind a pay wall. If they have it the sameway as ps3 im fine with that. Really hope they add more streaming title to psplus so you dont have to DL huge game/demo to play them. That alone would be worth it for PS world or whatever it will be called.
Delusibeta
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You'll have to admit that it's all true.
(although admittedly I can't blame them for season passes, Rockstar was first AFAIK).
ZombiePlatypus
Member
This makes me really excited for tomorrow. We probably won't get price conformations, but at least we'll see if what they're cooking up might be worth these bloated price rumors.
Nice post. I bet MS gets way more than your figure for XBL... It's probably over $1B. Maintaining an online network is very expensive and Sony needs to generate a lot more revenue to cover those online costs... Especially if they are adding a bunch of online features. Paying a reasonable amount of money for the service should not be a problem for gamers. Think of how much entertainment is gained from the service.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
That one is easy--back in GBA days, there weren't easily available smartphones loaded with $1 games. In comparison, the price looks outrageous.
This statement isn't even slightly true.
The PS1 was a success from the start, and always the dominant console of the generation. The launch games alone meant the console had incredible hype levels. It literally dawned a new age in video games, bringing 3D gaming home.
FFVII came out 3 years after the PS1 had launched (and already killed off the Saturn).
Your PS2 comments are even more nuts. Hype for the console alone was enough to kill off the Dreamcast. The PS2 was a sales phenomenon, right from the beginning.
The third place advert wasn't literally about the console being in third place, you dumb-dumb. It was just surreal nonsense, made by famed nutter David Lynch. It even directly goes again your point that games lone sole the systems, as it was a console ad that didn't feature any games.
terribletwo
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cheaper than last gen is about all you can ask for. Seems fine for something that is the center of my media center
well for something that is really the entirety of my media center
well for something that is really the entirety of my media center