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Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4) announced, launch title [1080p/30fps]
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This one will also have multiple difficulties. Why wouldn't it? Best way IMO is to crank up the difficulty and remove HUD completely. Playing KZ2 like that was glorious. You can appreciate everything that much more.
Always-honest
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Sounds cool so far. I can not wait to see some of the stuff on the other side of that wall.
BloodMoney
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I thought KZ2 MP was amazing. It had a different feel than anything on the market. Day 1 everyone was a "noob". I see no reason for the MP to emulate the feel of COD & BF. KZ needs to stand out, it needs to be different. I want severe weapon recoil to return... none of this, unload a clip within a 6" spread BS.
The SP has been pretty good with multiple difficulties and MP in KZ 3 usually has shitty framerate.
digoutyoursoul
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Feel like the single guy at a wedding for loving KZ3 multiplayer 
Always-honest
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I agree completely. You invest time in it and then you are no longer a noob.
peripheral visoin
dont exactly have to divers your attention from the computer screen to be able to see your fingers moving on the keyboard
so it should be much easier to see a light
That light will be facing away from you. It doesn't encroach onto the front of the controller does it?
Feel like the single guy at a wedding for loving KZ3 multiplayer
I loved it too. Warzone in a good Killzone 3 map was an incredible experience, the real shame is that only half the maps were good.
shakin_haitian
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People are going to be pissed about the in game draw distance.
^ That was one of the best things about it..
Fingers crossed next-gen brings the most advanced standards of consistent frame rates we've ever seen. SP seemed smooth in SH at least. I really hope they don't revert backwards towards KZ2's 150ms input lag either.
Truthfully, even if players don't realise the framerate is dropping (and that's why it's harder at certain times), they'll recognise a game which has no drops after how widespread the low standards were this gen.
Fingers crossed next-gen brings the most advanced standards of consistent frame rates we've ever seen. SP seemed smooth in SH at least. I really hope they don't revert backwards towards KZ2's 150ms input lag either.
Truthfully, even if players don't realise the framerate is dropping (and that's why it's harder at certain times), they'll recognise a game which has no drops after how widespread the low standards were this gen.
Liamario
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Looking at the current controller, I don't think the light bar is even visible to the person holding it.
^ Exactly..it has to be really bright for you to see it in peripheral vision. Ridiculously bright for day time. Doesn't make sense battery and cost wise since most games won't use it for much.
It's quite a big light but it didn't seem that powerful. Might work well at night. Maybe the brightness is adjustable.. It might be with it being able to flash for stuff iirc. If you want nice smooth pulses anyway. Maybe they expect more use out of it than I first thought.
Yep thanks I read from Sid - dunno why it wouldn't just wanted to make sure (not played KZ before) although yeah basically every game does. I didn't know you could remove HUD that sounds pretty wicked, hardcore in Cod was always my favourite mode. I really like everything I've seen about the game and the series in general apart from technical issues in some titles but the only thing I'm worried about is the AI in close proximity. All footage I've seen, even in the upcoming Vita game, they seem quite slow to react. Do things like time to react change on higher difficulties or is mainly health/damage/aim?
It's quite a big light but it didn't seem that powerful. Might work well at night. Maybe the brightness is adjustable.. It might be with it being able to flash for stuff iirc. If you want nice smooth pulses anyway. Maybe they expect more use out of it than I first thought.
Yep thanks I read from Sid - dunno why it wouldn't just wanted to make sure (not played KZ before) although yeah basically every game does. I didn't know you could remove HUD that sounds pretty wicked, hardcore in Cod was always my favourite mode. I really like everything I've seen about the game and the series in general apart from technical issues in some titles but the only thing I'm worried about is the AI in close proximity. All footage I've seen, even in the upcoming Vita game, they seem quite slow to react. Do things like time to react change on higher difficulties or is mainly health/damage/aim?
BloodMoney
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Unfortunately the gameplay demo appeared to have little recoil. The rail gun assault rifle (or whatever it is) held a pretty tight pattern I really hope the tweak the recoil (more recoil) in the coming months.
What if they linked recoil to the difficulty level (in both SP & MP). Easy had little recoil like COD, Veteran had recoil similar to KZ2 the same could be done in multiplayer where servers could be ranked (easy/med/hard) with more XP awarded for kills and achievements in hard servers than easy servers.
Thought not. To be honest I wouldn't want it to either, I play in total darkness where possible and I like as few distractions as possible off screen.
One of the main things I dislike about Move.
Always-honest
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i think that (type of) GUN had little recoil. I'm sure other weapons have more recoil.
BloodMoney
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With regard to low health in KZ, I liked how they had the screen fade to black and white
in lieu of blood splatter on the screen I think they should add motion blurring as you get real close to death.
Facism
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As long as ADS is an option and not a necessity, like in KZ2, i'll be happy. Fuck all FPS games that need you to go into tunnel vision to hit someone 2 metres infront of you. Devs behind that sort of thing should be ashamed of themselves and be shunned.
I'd like an alternative to bloody screens and muted audio when low on health. "hey bro you got low hp and if you don't kill this dude you're dead and have to restart a checkpo...LOL JAM ON YOUR FACE AND IN YOUR EARS GG HF BRO IM-IM-IMMERSION"
I'd like an alternative to bloody screens and muted audio when low on health. "hey bro you got low hp and if you don't kill this dude you're dead and have to restart a checkpo...LOL JAM ON YOUR FACE AND IN YOUR EARS GG HF BRO IM-IM-IMMERSION"
Please elaborate...
LowEndTorque
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Feel like the single guy at a wedding for loving KZ3 multiplayer
You're not alone. I had an incredible time with KZ3 MP. Although if I'm honest with myself, the reason I loved it so much was because of the Move controls.
KZ3 will always have a spot in my memory as the game that showed me that pointer controls are the ideal and perfect control scheme for shooters. Far, far faaar morre precise than dual thumb sticks, and far more fun and amenable to the comfy couch than a kb+m.
-Amon-
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Could feel pointless until you think at solutions like the one implemented in Cod.
-Amon-
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Feel like the single guy at a wedding for loving KZ3 multiplayer
It was not that bad. The problem was that we had KZ2 multiplayer before, that while having some ( minor for me ) problems, was in a leage of it's own.
Bit of everything. They flank better, more aggressive and of course the rest of the stuff you mentioned like other games. KZ AI has always been really good . I really hope they take advantage of all that extra horsepower to improve it in a massive way. From what I saw in the demo it did not even seem as good as KZ2.
Gemüsepizza
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And I think you know shit about the ingame draw distance.
Wat.
We've seen enough footage to say that both the detail of pretty much everything and the draw distance are amazing.
Also the above.
Chip N Chance
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I'll believe it when i see it. microsoft said the same thing when the 360 was announced. That the ring of light on the controller could be used for displaying things such as health.
Seventy_X_Seven
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Well since it will be pretty much the only shooter available right at launch it definitely has more room than usual to stray from the norm and try something different. I've been hoping for this for two years now, when I simply assumed KZ4 would be PS4 only.
Metalmurphy
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It's not exactly a unbelievable feature. The move does this already.
The Move orb has been used to decent effect in that respect, so I don't see why it would be a problem for this controller as well. Still think it's largely pointless as you won't see the light, but still.
Why didn't you play the previous ones? no PS3?
From what i understood, demos like that have to be planned way in advance, so the actual build is probably already looking better than the demo.
And i think they'll certainly choose a more impressive part of the game if they have a new demo.
I can already see my self playing Dead Space 4 with the light bar instantly flashing red when an enemy jumps you, they could do some creative aplications for the light bar.
Do we know if the light bar has to be fully lit all the time or could it lit just part of the bar like a progress bar?
Chip N Chance
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I didnt know that about the move. So is that light pad actually recognized by the PS Eye? Or is it just for looks.
It'll be tracked by the Eye, but you can program the colour independently so you could colour that light regardless of the camera being there.
AltogetherAndrews
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What I want from KZ4 is what I hoped to get with KZ2: linear levels but several ways to play through them, and cooperatively at that. Say for example you play as a soldier making your way through a pretty ordinary battlefield, shooting enemies and what have you. But maybe there is a different fight going on in the periphery, with your buddy playing as a shadow marshal and quietly but swiftly murdering his/her way through the same level but in a different way entirely. At the same time.
I really don't understand why I haven't gotten THAT game yet.
I really don't understand why I haven't gotten THAT game yet.
Ah good (about the previous titles), thank you.
I only remember playing KZ2 and it was around about when I got my awesome pc (at the time) - I couldn't bare the input lag... I was also much less accepting of 30fps in FPS games at the time.
Sorry, not sure but I am curious myself. I think it would also be cool as a sort of "warmer" clue for secrets or hidden stuff in games but yeah, I can see it used as a warning in lot of games if it actually works like they said about Killzone.
Kenshin001
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They are reading this thread so hope they take away some good feedback/constructive criticism they can use to make a worthy successor to KZ2.
Would like to know exactly what their vision is though.
BloodMoney
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Any idea if the long gamplay demo has been added to the PSN store for download and viewing in 1080p glory?
Maybe later today at GCT I hope.
Reckless Onion
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sounds like an excuse to have lots of input delay
As long as they are reading: MAKE THE MP 60FPS!!
backbreaker65
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The LightPad for health indicator, how is that even a good idea, when the contoller is facing away from you. I don't understand that as a concept. You have to look away from the screen, flip the controller up too see your health? Don't we already get health indication from rumble? Unless, the lightpad flashes like hazzard lights and you happen to see it reflect off your tv screen, is that a possiblity?
angels.phillipe
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Am i the only one that is thinking how amazing the MP of this game will be? I'm not really caring for the SP to be honest.
shakin_haitian
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Just watching the demos, the only time anyone was actually playing the game, other than the scripted with "press a button to continue" cut scenes, the areas were cloaked in very dense fog and the areas were relatively small. The flight scenes over the city were completely scripted with nicely textured skyboxes.
digoutyoursoul
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Nope, I'm really looking forward to it, not a big fan of fps but I've taken to Killzone a lot
BloodMoney
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A lot of us are hoping GG develops an excellent MP component (they've certainly done it in the past). Though i am equally, if not more so, interested in the SP component/story. The speculation that there may be a dual campaign (you play as both Vektan shadow marshal, and Helghan solider) could be awesome. I can't wait to see what the Helghan side of "the wall" looks like in gameplay.
lovegames718
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I actually preferred Killzones 2 weighty/heavy feel as opposed to Killzone 3. I prefer it also over COD 60 fps super fast run and gun. I think Kz2 was one of the games i put the most time into mp, that and Uncharted 2/3.
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