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House of Cards - S1 on Netflix - Spacey & Fincher - *UNMARKED SPOILERS FOR ALL OF S1*
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Nope.
Watch the first two episodes again.
Al-ibn Kermit
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No, Russo's gf does though.
He plants the seed in Russo's head to run for governor. When Clair sabotage's the Watershed bill, there is a scene between Stamper and Underwood where Frank says "we have to move up our timetable."
Cue Russo's campaign getting blown up by Rachel. Destroying Russo was the plan from the start. Russo is a fuck-up. Why in the world would Frank *genuinely* get behind him?
He's NOT improvising. At least not to that great of a degree.
Sec State move is just more favor trading. The current Sec State has the job 100% because of Frank's scheming. She owes him now. Frank's plan was to destroy the first nominee, and he figured, as long as I'm doing that, why don't I install someone in the job loyal to me?
Cue Russo's campaign getting blown up by Rachel. Destroying Russo was the plan from the start. Russo is a fuck-up. Why in the world would Frank *genuinely* get behind him?
He's NOT improvising. At least not to that great of a degree.
Sec State move is just more favor trading. The current Sec State has the job 100% because of Frank's scheming. She owes him now. Frank's plan was to destroy the first nominee, and he figured, as long as I'm doing that, why don't I install someone in the job loyal to me?
PuppetSlave
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Have watched the entire season now and I did enjoy it very much.
Was starting to lose me a bit in the middle but the start and the ending really lifted the series for me. I assume their will be a season 2? Looking forward to that.
Cornballer
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Yes. They are currently writing S2.
No she doesn't, all you see is half her tits but they're still covered.
I think he's talking about the prostitute.
BankaiZaraki
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We do see her tits, after one of their romps when Russo gets up to make food, she sits up and to the left, thats when you see one of her tits..not that great to look at imo.
Al-ibn Kermit
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Really? I remember nipples.
BankaiZaraki
Banned
Double post! Right now I'm on episode 10 or 11..don't remember which one currently..need to finish the season. It's pretty great, but not the best tv show out there. I'd put it in my top 10.
Yeah you get a brief glimpse of them. Image search, you know the internet found the best frame.
And I agree on your last point. Though she was real pretty in Cabin in the Woods.
Hmm, let me go re-watch.
Something to think about for upcoming seasons:
Question:
Frank now has an understanding with Tusker. He managed to make the President's chief of stuff work with him behind his back so she's pretty much in his corner. The Secretary Of State is in his pocket. The majority leader is in his camp.
Question:
Assuming that something catastrophic doesn't happen and he becomes vice president, how does a man like Frank not go for the presidency while it sits an arm's length away?
Triple Oceans
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Good point/observation that I've also been thinking about. But in one of the final two episodes, Linda Vasquez pretty much spells out how that is Franks plan. If Frank does become President by the end of season 2 through some strange reason to impeach the shows current President, I think that would make the show incredibly ludicrous and not taken seriously as a political drama.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Some of the episodes in the last half of the season really have some amazing shots. Wait for it.
Check the source material.
Grimm Fandango
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Just finished episode 5 and I really had to roll my eyes at the ending. Felt like a cop-out.
Also I'm starting to dislike some of the main characters and not in the anti-hero kind of way.
Also I'm starting to dislike some of the main characters and not in the anti-hero kind of way.
ThreePiMatt
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Pretty much anyone on the journalism side of the story is "meh" to me. The CWI stuff is kind of uninteresting as well. Really, the more screen time Spacey gets is better.
As far as the CWI stuff:
Hopefully early in Season 2 it comes out that when Claire when to see Gillian at her house she was secretly recording the conversation when Gillian said "if I have to lie about yadda yadda yadda" and we can just put that whole lawsuit and half of the story to rest.
Triple Oceans
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Ok will do.
Discotheque
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no but it's amusing.
house of cards is good but not great imo. i think they can do better.
RatskyWatsky
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It's a totally different type of show. I think it's a lot of fun though.
ToyMachine228
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I agree. Doing that would be too much. That said, he is of the same party as the President. You can't even begin to understand how many people in the political world wait for the people above them to step aside before moving up. For better or worse.
I finished the final episode. I liked the show but I thought the final episode was a bit anti-climatic.
Anyway I still liked the show and I'm looking forward to season 2.
Also, I'm really looking forward to Hemlock Grove in April. I hope it turns out well.
I also don't think they explained Zoe's motivation to try and take down Frances very well. She started to resent their sexual relationship but it ended amicably and he is still feeding her information. I know he was using her but she was aware of that. She can't be doing it just for moral reasons as she's not exactly a goody two shoes. I guess they want to enforce the notion that she is doing it for her career, but I think it was still kind of strange because I know she wanted to be Claire and suddenly she didn't.
Also, I would like to have seen Peter's character develop more before they decided to kill him off but, I know why they did it.
Anyway I still liked the show and I'm looking forward to season 2.
Also, I'm really looking forward to Hemlock Grove in April. I hope it turns out well.
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Haha, hold that thought.
Triple Oceans
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Wow, really?! For what reasons? I really like HoC but I definitely don't think it's as good as Breaking Bad.
I just find Frank to be a guilty-pleasure sort of character. I like him the say way I loved and rooted for Light in the Death Note anime.
The media cause-and-effect stuff is a bit cheesy so far, but watching the characters watch their own handiwork so far has put giant grins on me. Also, being from South Carolina and driven past the Peachoid countless times endears it to me a bit more
The media cause-and-effect stuff is a bit cheesy so far, but watching the characters watch their own handiwork so far has put giant grins on me. Also, being from South Carolina and driven past the Peachoid countless times endears it to me a bit more
BronsonLee
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Clares entire demeanor during that conversation screams to me that that was what was going on. It was a complete 180 on how she normally acts. I bet she brings Gillian back under the pretext of blackmailing her.
Cornballer
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- A few comments from a teleconference today: House Of Cards Was A Great Success Netflix Chief Says
Yeah. I just finished 105 (I actually have only watched about one episode a week), and I'm definitely not loving it as much as I did in those first two episodes. I still think it's a very well made show, but there are some parts aren't nearly as intelligent as they think they are (105):
the union man yelling at Russo was so overwritten, and the party was questionable in its plausibility. The fact that it was a linchpin for the entire episode as a means to get back at the unions was a bit of a head scratcher and was a forced obstacle that was written that served very little purpose for the overall arc. Does any plan that Frank have never go down in the way it's supposed to? There is NO obstacle he can't overcome, which is starting to grate.
Still, I'm a huge fan. It's definitely a great show, but I'm not sure if it's as good as it could be or lives up to the promise of the pilot. Still, I have 8 episodes to go.
Cornballer
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- NYT: For 'House of Cards,' Using Big Data to Guarantee Its Popularity
More via the link.In the television business, there is no such thing as a sure thing. You can have a gold-plated director, a bankable star and a popular concept and still, its just a roll of the dice.
Or is it?
In any business, the ability to see into the future is the killer app, and Netflix may be getting close with House of Cards. The series, directed by David Fincher, starring Kevin Spacey and based on a popular British series, is already the most streamed piece of content in the United States and 40 other countries, according to Netflix. The spooky part about that? Executives at the company knew it would be a hit before anyone shouted action.
Netflix, which has 27 million subscribers in the nation and 33 million worldwide, ran the numbers. It already knew that a healthy share had streamed the work of Mr. Fincher, the director of The Social Network, from beginning to end. And films featuring Mr. Spacey had always done well, as had the British version of House of Cards. With those three circles of interest, Netflix was able to find a Venn diagram intersection that suggested that buying the series would be a very good bet on original programming.
I am 95% certain that's exactly what happened.
She's learning from Frank after all
Also as an aside, Frank Underwood is the John Cena of politics.
Eh, I'm not sure about that. I think it's fairly brazen to assume a formula for success, especially in television.
a couple things i really liked about this series , apart from being a great show .. is how it handled both gaming and cell phone use..
i mean, it was borderline vita product placement, but it still came across naturally, and when playing cod on his ps3 ...they didn't make some big dumb deal about it ...
and didtto with the cell phone use ... no stupid fantasy OS where the txt is in some huge screen eating font, it was just his phone. and actually the speech bubble stuff was pretty cool too
i mean, it was borderline vita product placement, but it still came across naturally, and when playing cod on his ps3 ...they didn't make some big dumb deal about it ...
and didtto with the cell phone use ... no stupid fantasy OS where the txt is in some huge screen eating font, it was just his phone. and actually the speech bubble stuff was pretty cool too
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
It was Killzone 3.
Cornballer
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I think it's a useful tool, but not the end-all-be-all that the title of the article suggests. Landgraf has a good quote from the article:
Television is built around high-concept formula. If there's one place a formula would work, it's TV.
The Lamonster
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What are you referring to?
And the reason that scene was written is obviously
to show Frank's ruthlessness and to have a surprising dramatic moment that makes you say, "did he really just do that?"
He is referring to Frank killing the dog.
Having Frank build up Peter's confidence only to crush him so much so that he commits suicide using the method Frank suggested shows Frank's ruthlessness just as much as having him directly kill him.
The "did he really just do that?" moment already happened when Frank gave Peter a razor blade in the bath tub.
Having Frank build up Peter's confidence only to crush him so much so that he commits suicide using the method Frank suggested shows Frank's ruthlessness just as much as having him directly kill him.
The "did he really just do that?" moment already happened when Frank gave Peter a razor blade in the bath tub.
We are up to episode 12.. can't wait to see how it finishes. Really great show, funny coincidence that Spacey's buddy from college
was in a show we watched like a day or two later and was quite gruff as you'd expect from his appearance. Justified maybe?
that he experimented with
Cornballer
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I didn't make the connection, but yes, that's Sheriff Napier from Justified.
Gerard McRaney who plays Raymond Tusk here in HoC was in Justified too
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