Choosing a gaming Mouse

Felt compelled to mention I just replaced my 4 month old Razer Imperator after some wicked mouse lag issues, which were supposed to be resolved with a firmware upgrade. Unfortunately, the program I needed to install to perform the upgrade didn't recognize my mouse, so I finally gave up and grabbed a Logitech G5.

Absolutely love it. Never again, Razer.
 
Steelseries Sensei. Had a Razer DeathAdder and a Razer Orochi previously; the Sensei blows both of them out of the water.
 
Steelseries Sensei. Had a Razer DeathAdder and a Razer Orochi previously; the Sensei blows both of them out of the water.
Been really looking at both of these. I'm leaning towards the death adder cause it seems a lot more comfortable. The sensei looks a bit standard. Is it? Care to go into some detail why the sensei is the better mouse?
 
The sensor and level of customization. Build quality is top notch too.

It's comfortable enough, but ultimately it's about the fact that it accurately tracks your mouse movement and allows for precise customization that fits how YOU use your mouse. You need to take the time to set all of that up, but your game will improve once you do so.
 
I have tiny fingers. Like, small enough that reaching numrow is difficult for me. 1-4? Pain in the ass. So a few years back, just a little bit after it was released, I got a Razer Naga, the mouse with the numpad on the side, and after adjusting to it I found that I literally could not play games without it (similar to my situation with the N52TE!). Tried a G700, a few other mice, and so on so forth, and ended up just going back to the Naga in some form or another.

And then Logitech released the G600, I tried it out, and found that the buttons were even nicer to actuate, it had a third button, and even had the tilting scroll wheel for Forward/Backward. Haven't looked back since, great mouse, and finally something to trump the Naga for me.

PS I don't play WoW or anything, this was solely for FPS and an occassional bout of Guild Wars.
 
Does anyone have a recommendation for a silent gaming mouse?

I love logitech products, but the majority of them have a high pitched clicking noise which can be annoying to someone else in the room when you play click-intensive games.
 
Anyone know a good gaming mouse that is preferably wireless and really comfortable under $40?

Does anyone have a recommendation for a silent gaming mouse?

I love logitech products, but the majority of them have a high pitched clicking noise which can be annoying to someone else in the room when you play click-intensive games.

Nexus silent mouse. Works well for gaming and has a good price.
 
Thoughts on the G700?

I got one a couple weeks ago. I like it. The rough texture of the grip took some getting used to, but it grew on me.

I'm not sure how much I like the 4 side buttons in the configuration they're in over say, 2 or 3 plus a palm button. However, I do really like the extra buttons on top for your index finger. Could maybe even make use of one more there.

Overall it's very solid. The biggest complaint would be that the battery life is pretty anemic, and the cable isn't that great (adds a lot of weight), so plugging it in doesn't always feel great. Perhaps if they switched to a braid-wrapped one over the chunky plastic. The other thing is that it has its own dedicated receiver - no using a universal one. The reason being that it sends much more data per second than your average mouse - this is the cause if the poor battery life. So plugged in or not (and it will need to be plugged in quite frequently), you're losing 1, possibly very often 2 USB ports.

The only other issue I have is that the software can lock up and crash, which then messes up all your bindings until you restart it. Could just be a Windows 8 problem though.

Now I mentioned some pretty big negatives, but I still like the mouse a lot. It's worth getting, but probably not at the MSRP of $100. It's quite often at $60 or so, average probably $70-some, with rare dips to $50. Got mine at $60 with half of that being paid by store credit. Would certainly have paid up to about $70 though.
 
nice. 2 questions:

1. does it get dirty after awhile and you need to soap and water it?

2. what mouse feet did that guy have on his mouse? looked like large circles

Not sure about number one. As for the second question, those are mouse "discs" or "skates" that actually come with the mousepad. They're teflon pads. This greatly reduces the friction allowing for a much slicker mouse movement.
 
Thoughts on the G700?

Best mouse I've ever used. Great drivers and easy to configure. The cable is not as nice as it could be, so I always have it unplugged when I play and put it back on over night to recharge. The smooth scrollwheel is great for browsing and controlling the zoom level in games, but not so good for weapon switching, so I normally have it on the standard mode. The side buttons aren't amazing or anything but they do their job and I've never had a problem with them, though that may depend on the size of your hand. You can save profiles directly on the mouse or on your computer and can switch between them via a button on the mouse, you can even have the logitech software automatically switch to a profile depending on the game you just launched.
 
Just thought I'd add my voice to the "avoid Razer" camp. My Deathadder developed problems within a month, and Razer customer support was awful. It took them over two weeks just to respond to my RMA request. Who knows how long it'll be before I get a new working one. Bought a Logitech G400 since, and its been flawless so far.

I don't think I'll ever be buying a Razer product again.
 
So avoid Razer, and I'll never purchase another Logitech product in my life (great while they last, and then BAM dead and out of warranty) Guess I'm going to look into grabbing a SteelSeries.
 
So avoid Razer, and I'll never purchase another Logitech product in my life (great while they last, and then BAM dead and out of warranty) Guess I'm going to look into grabbing a SteelSeries.

Haha, good luck with SteelSeries. Everything they make is low quality and breaks within months. eSports baby!
 
Just picked this up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826570006

Not the most naturally comfortable mouse, but like any well made mouse you eventually get used to it. And part of that is me coming from using the most comfortable mouse ever made. Buttons and scroll wheel feel very solid with an almost perfect feeling click and scroll. Good weighty feel to the mouse. Ability to program macros through software with on mouse dpi adjustment. Only been using it for a few days now but so far I'm very satisfied with this as a mid range mouse. And only $35 after MIR.
 
Haha, good luck with SteelSeries. Everything they make is low quality and breaks within months. eSports baby!

Well we will see. I've had 3 Logitech mice die on me just after their warranty period was over. MX518 is a good mouse, hoping the Sensei Raw I just bought is better (wish more mice and keyboards moved AWAY from all the extra bullshit they seem to have now with profiles and macros and whatever, just give me a solid device that does what it should and nothing more!)
 
I'd like to try this one out. TT Esports Level 10 M. Hat switch as one of the side buttons is intriguing.

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tried it, returned it a few days later. Just didn't work out for my hands.

I have a Steel Series Sensei. I love it.
 
My old G5 finally died. I tried a few out at the store but ended up getting the G500. So far I really like it. It's like subtle evolution but I think I like the changes they made.

I wanted to try a Deathadder but I was afraid of all the quality issues that seem to plague them and I wanted something built to last.
 
Thoughts on the G700?

Ive had my g700 for about a year and the thing lost use of 2 of the 4 side buttons about two months ago. I really loved this mouse but i wouldnt recommend it or buy another after my exp with it.

Battery life is shit, cord is heavy as hell to leave always connected, and for some reason it loses its button mapping/dpi settings from time to time. I hate the thing but iam using it cause i need wireless. Ive opened it up to see if it was something simple like a lose connection somewhere but its a freakin molded PCB nightmare in there.

Ive almost threw the thing againt the wall when it got me killed in PoE HC.

Fuck these complicated mice yo... go simple 2/3 buttons on side corded with some weight to it.
 
While at Fry's a week ago, I picked up the Corsair M65 for $40 on a whim. It's pretty, so it got me there.

Pros

-Avago ADNS9800 Sensor, it's the best out there.
-Fit and finish - best looking and constructed mouse I've ever used.
-Comfort - extremely comfortable to use for an extended period.
-Software that allows for rebinding of all the buttons as well as user defined DPI settings that you can select with the lower middle mouse buttons.
-Adjustable weight
Cons

-RMB and LMB are way too sensitive, taking almost no force to depress.
-Native acceleration above and beyond the standard 9500/9800 issue, and there was no option for removing it in the software.
-Can be a bit bulky for those preferring smaller mice.​

A bit more depth

It's a very well built mouse with some random issues that prevent me from suggesting it over the Sensei, but there can be an instance where it is recommended. Mainly, if you have big hands.

The RMB and LMB being so easy do depress actually had me laying my fingers straight over the buttons and depressing them with my knuckle to prevent accidental clicking. This was not something I was doing consciously either.

The built in acceleration was way too heavy. Even at 800 CPI, I would be overshooting dramatically on whips in Warsow and Quake Live. Turning down the CPI further did not alleviate the issue either.​

Conclusion

Sensei still king.​
 
The mouse wheel on my DeathAdder just broke... My fault, since I accidentally damaged it a few weeks ago, and not a huge tragedy because I got this one from a friend who wasn't using it for $25.

I'm seeing almost nothing but praise for the Sensei in this thread. Is it really that good?
 
Yeah, still the best mouse out there.

The Raw and the Spawn are the only times where I've bought a mouse and couldn't find anything to complain about.

I've been compulsively buying tons of different mice ever since the Boomslang days too.
 
If we're going to talk "pound for pound" sensor quality then you might want to look into the Zowie EC1/2 eVo which uses the Avago ADNS-3090 sensor while the Sensei uses the Avago ADNS-A9500 sensor. The EC1/2 eVo performs just as well, if not better depending on surface, and is a lot cheaper in Europe at least.

This is all relative to how sensitive you are to different mice obviously. You might not care or notice the difference between most of the mice being suggested.
 
Somehow I got used to gaming on this using the mouse
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It feels weird now using regular mice but i'm thinking of buying the corsair vengeance m95 when it's out here in the UK. I've also just learnt from this thread that i'm a claw fingertip user too.
 
Ive had my g700 for about a year and the thing lost use of 2 of the 4 side buttons about two months ago. I really loved this mouse but i wouldnt recommend it or buy another after my exp with it.

Battery life is shit, cord is heavy as hell to leave always connected, and for some reason it loses its button mapping/dpi settings from time to time. I hate the thing but iam using it cause i need wireless. Ive opened it up to see if it was something simple like a lose connection somewhere but its a freakin molded PCB nightmare in there.

Ive almost threw the thing againt the wall when it got me killed in PoE HC.

Fuck these complicated mice yo... go simple 2/3 buttons on side corded with some weight to it.

If you call Logitech, they'll replace it. It's pretty annoying though; I've had that double click when single clicking issue on several Logitech mice now. I wish they'd just use better microswitches or something.
 
I think I'm just going to go ahead and order a rubberized Sensei Raw. Anything else I need to know about it? I generally use high sensitivity settings, fingertip grip, a very large (23"x14") cloth mousepad, and a wrist rest.
 
I think I'm just going to go ahead and order a rubberized Sensei Raw. Anything else I need to know about it? I'm generally use high sensitivity settings, fingertip grip, a very large (23"x14") cloth mousepad, and a wrist rest.
I found it too small for me (avg-large hands I guess?) plus I use a half palm grip with low sensitivity.

So it should probably work well for you. I got the glossy, really regretted it to. Rubber way to go.
 
My hands are pretty huge too, but I arch my fingers and have my palm and forearm above the mousepad at all times thanks to my wrist rest, so the size of the mouse doesn't really matter to me.
 
My razer abyssus is the most comfortable mouse I've ever had. Build quality is complete shit but I doubt I'll ever find another mouse that feels as good to my grip style.

Has anyone found a similar mouse?
 
Pretty happy with Roccat Kone XTD, expensive but worth it.

I tried the Kone Pure for a few months but the XTD is more comfortable despite being bigger in size.
 
I'm thinking of buying the corsair vengeance m95 when it's out here in the UK. I've also just learnt from this thread that i'm a claw fingertip user too.

Hopefully they've fixed the scroll wheel issues that plagued the M90. Mine got progressively worse until it was unusable. I bought a G600 to replace it, and it's a great product. I did like the M90 but I prefer the G600 so that's my recommendation if you're looking for an "MMO mouse". I'm still a big fan of Corsair overall, and they've issued an RMA on the M90 which is nice since I bought it in November of 2011... basically the week it was released. K90 keyboard is still great.
 
My razer abyssus is the most comfortable mouse I've ever had. Build quality is complete shit but I doubt I'll ever find another mouse that feels as good to my grip style.

Has anyone found a similar mouse?
I miss my original MX Revolution for palm.

I mean I played games fine with it, but now I'm all eSports and stuff so mkenyon is making me buy things.
 
Been using a Naga Epic for a year now and the left click has started double clicking randomly. Not a great sign (RMAing it), but i've really grown attached to having a 17 button mouse that most importantly has at least 3200 dpi and high quality wireless.

I haven't seen any other high quality wireless 17 button mice sadly, so, i'm going to have to just settle for Razer for the rest of my life apparently. And since this mouse only lasted a year it's gonna be expensive.
 
You know, before reading this thread I didn't even know there were people using a different grip from mine. Weird.

Anyway, I'm finger grip (per Razer's description page). It's guru-level for speed, precision and agility, but definitely restricts the maximum number of buttons one can comfortably use. And the mouse's shape and button placement has to be rather specific.

Oh and I absolutely abhor wheel sideclick. I love my MX400, but my next mouse will definitely NOT have it.
 
Oh and I absolutely abhor wheel sideclick. I love my MX400, but my next mouse will definitely NOT have it.

I didn't know logitech made a wired mouse with tilt-wheel and dual thumb-buttons, that's what I've always wanted!

I had another logitech with the wheel, and I liked mapping up/down/left/right/depress to 1-5 weapon slots in L4D and TF2. My issue is that the mouse I had previously only had one thumb button, and I liked the second thumb button for meelee or duck, or whathaveyou.

I currently have a Razor with the six buttons on the side, which is sorta okay, but really, I only use two of them regularily, the third is nice, but 4-6 are useless to me. Plus the damn mouse is always trying to patch itself and resetting my PC -WTF?

I do like the ultra high sens tho. What is the polling and DPI of the MX400? Is it a gaming mouse, or just a consumer mouse?
 
G400

Avago ADNS-S3095 optical sensor with no prediction/acceleration. Earlier models did come with angle snapping but those have all been phased out by now.

Tracks best at 400-800 CPI. I would recommend not using the software to avoid minor jitter issues. The only other thing to point out is the cord isn't braided.

Perfect mouse given you're comfortable holding it.
 
I do like the ultra high sens tho. What is the polling and DPI of the MX400? Is it a gaming mouse, or just a consumer mouse?
It's an older-gen prosumer mouse. Frankly, I have no idea, lost the documentation years ago (bought it winter 2006). Apart for the disliking the sideclick, the direct-click is almost unusable (at least to my type of grip) due to the wheel being very stiff. I kept misclicking and eventually bound all three actions to the default direct-click. I want my next mouse to have (apart from no sideclick) a soft click wheel.
 
I can't recommend the G9X enough, I tried razer mice and I found they were mostly too easy to move around and felt like toys. The g9x I bought from a friend and i think it's the best gaming purchase I have done in years. You can find them for less than the original asking price and it will last you for a long time(at least mine did). Also, the option of not having a geared scroll wheel is amazing and useful on macs.
 
Did logitech do a 100 percent turn around on quality or something in the last year?

I own a g9x and it is a total piece of shit :\
-mouse feet more like some unholy velcro + glue offspring, there is so much resistance on my wooden desk that playing with high sens is impossible
-cord curls and snags
-the outer casing doesn't properly fit the inner part so it kind of wiggles and shakes inside while you move it, you can hear it clunking around while gaming... nice build quality as usual logitech, smh...
-mouse wheel is impossible to click without rolling it because of poor build quality (an issue I've never had with any random MS mouse before)


If razer didn't go to shit in the past 5 years I would recommend them.
I had a razer lachesis and those teflon feet actuall work (they didn't wear even after 4 years of use and they worked well with claw grip and very high sens)

The cord wasn't sleeved plastic so it didn't tangle or curl (real gamers use wired mice)
The buttons felt good and sturdy, mouse wheel is the best I've had on a mouse.

The only problem with the lachesis (that was a very common problem with these mice) was a manufacturing fault with the click of the middle mouse button (scrollwheel button) , it stopped working after 3 years.

If it didn't have that issue the mouse would have been perfect, it doesn't seem like a mistake they'd make again with their next model...


Only reason I didn't buy another lachesis is because logitech bougth up the shelf space at my local pc shop (you can't make this shit up) .
The guy behind the counter was really blazé about it too, he said their store had a deal with logitech to cut a few percent off their bulk prices if they stopped stocking razer and steelseries accessories...
 
-mouse wheel is impossible to click without rolling it because of poor build quality (an issue I've never had with any random MS mouse before)

mouse wheel is the only problem I've had with the g9x logitechs. they seemingly break super easily. just from regular wear. I probably went through 6-7 g9 and g9x'es before I switched to steelseries sensei.
 
I've been through a couple of mice that I've liked to varying degrees.

Currently using and very happy with my Razer Taipan. It's a bit lower in profile than my previous DeathAdder, and feels much more comfortable in my fingertip grip.

That said, the DeathAdder was pretty darn good too, would be even better for a palm gripper.

I really didn't dig the Logitech G700. I think mainly due to it's weight. With the batteries installed it was pretty darn heavy. The charge cable was plastic that kept getting caught on the edge of my table as well, whereas braided Razer cables don't seem to do the same thing for me.

Mate of mine recently replaced a couple-years-old DeathAdder with a Sensei Raw and he's had nothing but praise for the thing.
 
I can't recommend the G9X enough, I tried razer mice and I found they were mostly too easy to move around and felt like toys. The g9x I bought from a friend and i think it's the best gaming purchase I have done in years. You can find them for less than the original asking price and it will last you for a long time(at least mine did). Also, the option of not having a geared scroll wheel is amazing and useful on macs.
I've been through a couple of mice that I've liked to varying degrees.

Currently using and very happy with my Razer Taipan. It's a bit lower in profile than my previous DeathAdder, and feels much more comfortable in my fingertip grip.

That said, the DeathAdder was pretty darn good too, would be even better for a palm gripper.

I really didn't dig the Logitech G700. I think mainly due to it's weight. With the batteries installed it was pretty darn heavy. The charge cable was plastic that kept getting caught on the edge of my table as well, whereas braided Razer cables don't seem to do the same thing for me.

Mate of mine recently replaced a couple-years-old DeathAdder with a Sensei Raw and he's had nothing but praise for the thing.
Just to let you all know, Razer Naga Hex is awesome.
I generally find it the case that people enjoy either a Razer or Logitech product when they mostly have used Razer or Logitech products in the past.

No offense intended, I'm glad you guys are enjoying them.
 
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