Samurai_Heart
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Yeeeaaaaaahhhh I can add American MH players to my friend list then =D
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate announced for Wii U/3DS, coming to West, no 3DS online
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This sounds awesome. Did the Japanese versions of MH3U have dlc quests as well?
Glorious day.
This, combined with Miiverse and the ability to play with my fellow friends of North America.. I'm happy.
My only complaint now is for MiiVerse screen capturing to be enabled in single player. After today, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Oh yeah shit, we're still missing Miiverse integration, aren't we?
You can do this Capcom. We believe in you.
Capcom is surely working hard on this game!!!
yea, demo doesn't offer everything. I would like to try the customization on GamePad screen as well. can't wait
Tell me that when they add in Wiimote support.
HitokiriNate85
Member
Do you guys think there's any real possibility of NA bundles being announced? I'm considering moving to the 3DS XL. I like the look of the 3DS more but it's not very comfortable and has a small 3D sweetspot. Also, playing the MH3U demo was cramping up my left hand really fast. Even KI:U didn't cause that much of an issue. A game like MH really seems like it needs to be on a TV, but I'm not really wiling to jump on a Wii U yet.
Any chance for 3DS online play or is that unpatchable?
Any chance you could let us know if it's possible to route all game sound to the gamepad's headphone port in the full release? Obviously this should be possible in the April patch for off-tv play, but it bothered me that I couldn't do it in the demo. And I keep seeing people pop up in these threads asking so I'm determined to track down someone who knows the answer.
Yes, you can output the sound through the gamepad, so if you have headphones they should work
Thanks, good to hear. It seemed like a no-brainer option to have considering that even in the demo you get SOME sounds, but they are the kind of things you'd get out of a wiimote. Trap warnings etc. I like to play with headphones and the wii doesn't have an optical out so I was counting on it.
I was considering preordering now that Off-TV Play is being added, but does anybody know the best retailer to preorder from to get it the fastest?
I'd normally grab the $20 discount for ordering both copies from Amazon to split with a friend, but the $8 shipping costs kills the savings, and I've had horrible service from Amazon both with Free Super Saver and 1-Day shipping (Free taking a week to ship, and my only 1-day order that cost me $17 was shipped via ground a day late. I got it a day later, but someone that ordered the same item with -free super saver shipping- got it shipped, and received it, a day sooner than mine I paid $17 for). And in that same $17 example, Amazon shipped the item 5 days later than -every other retailer-. Always regret ordering from Amazon.
I could otherwise buy both with free shipping but then I'd probably be better off just waiting the few weeks it would take and buying it cheaper somewhere else.
Is there any retailer that has immediate free shipping, or might even ship it early?
I'd normally grab the $20 discount for ordering both copies from Amazon to split with a friend, but the $8 shipping costs kills the savings, and I've had horrible service from Amazon both with Free Super Saver and 1-Day shipping (Free taking a week to ship, and my only 1-day order that cost me $17 was shipped via ground a day late. I got it a day later, but someone that ordered the same item with -free super saver shipping- got it shipped, and received it, a day sooner than mine I paid $17 for). And in that same $17 example, Amazon shipped the item 5 days later than -every other retailer-. Always regret ordering from Amazon.
I could otherwise buy both with free shipping but then I'd probably be better off just waiting the few weeks it would take and buying it cheaper somewhere else.
Is there any retailer that has immediate free shipping, or might even ship it early?
Make a new account in Amazon
sign up for the 1 month of free Prime
pre-order the game
select 2 day prime shipping
???
Profit
Where do you live? It seems you want it fast, but isn't a local retailer an option?
Forgot step #3: Cancel Prime Membership. XD
And yeah, that's what I did/do.
Heck, ordered the Metal Gear Rising Limited Editon for a friend an got it on the same February 19 (retail release) at 10AM; through UPS...and I'm in Puerto Rico.
UncleSporky
Member
So maybe this was explained earlier in the thread, I don't know.
Tri going offline means the loss of about 60% of the game content (from what I hear). Single player doesn't let you fight all the monsters or get all the equipment or play in higher difficulties.
But Ultimate can't do that because the 3DS version isn't online, there's no server to shut off. And because it's not online and local wireless isn't anywhere near as convenient, they probably did their best to make more of the content playable solo, right?
Since it's generally the same game plus more content, how is that extra content handled? Is the single player "village" game about the same, or are there new quests featuring additional monsters? Is single player generally more fleshed out to incorporate some of that content?
Or is it basically that you can do all the multiplayer stuff in single player, by creating a room and just setting out on your own, and that's where the majority of the new content is? Is difficulty adjusted at all for that situation?
Or ultimately is it exactly like Tri and you shouldn't expect to be able to tackle much multi stuff by yourself, no matter which version you have?
Tri going offline means the loss of about 60% of the game content (from what I hear). Single player doesn't let you fight all the monsters or get all the equipment or play in higher difficulties.
But Ultimate can't do that because the 3DS version isn't online, there's no server to shut off. And because it's not online and local wireless isn't anywhere near as convenient, they probably did their best to make more of the content playable solo, right?
Since it's generally the same game plus more content, how is that extra content handled? Is the single player "village" game about the same, or are there new quests featuring additional monsters? Is single player generally more fleshed out to incorporate some of that content?
Or is it basically that you can do all the multiplayer stuff in single player, by creating a room and just setting out on your own, and that's where the majority of the new content is? Is difficulty adjusted at all for that situation?
Or ultimately is it exactly like Tri and you shouldn't expect to be able to tackle much multi stuff by yourself, no matter which version you have?
It's a far way's out, and it would be a GameStop, being sold a new game opened/used breaks my heart.
The Prime trial idea sounds perfect, however Think I'll give that a try. And to repeat what I said earlier for anybody else interested, Amazon seems to let you order the WiiU copy and the 3DS copy to separate addresses and keep the discount.
So if you want to group orders with someone online or a friend that lives away from you, you can each save $10 and have eachother's copies shipped to their respective houses. If Prime trial works, presumably day-one shipping for both as well.
The Prime trial idea sounds perfect, however
Think I'll give that a try. And to repeat what I said earlier for anybody else interested, Amazon seems to let you order the WiiU copy and the 3DS copy to separate addresses and keep the discount. So if you want to group orders with someone online or a friend that lives away from you, you can each save $10 and have eachother's copies shipped to their respective houses. If Prime trial works, presumably day-one shipping for both as well.
Chuckpebble
Member
This guy says there'll be a patch in April making the online work across regions. Also, day and date on the eShop.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xv30pyUxm5I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xv30pyUxm5I
Last I heard, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate has offline single player versions of most/all of the high rank quests. I also assume that monster HP totals have been adjusted accordingly.
RiderKairuu
Member
So I can cancel the Prime right away after placing the order?
100% of the content is available for offline single player as well.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Turn off autorenew; don't immediately cancel lol
RiderKairuu
Member
Cool. Didn't know you could auto renew, thanks.
Dunkelgrau
Member
- Off-TV-Gameplay confirmed
- No Region-lock for online-multiplayer confirmed
German Source: http://wiiux.de/neuigkeiten/2357-monster-hunter-3-ultimate-neue-funktionen
Shin Kojima
Banned
Now if they could patch in 8 player rooms it would be perfect!
UncleSporky
Member
I heard elsewhere that single player doesn't include G rank? And possibly one or more of the Super Ultimate Death Monsters?
How do you do Jhen Mohran in single player?
So, Capcom apparently hopes MH3U will spark a monhun breakthrough in the West. Funny that they would latch their hopes on an upresed rehash remake of a wii game that's already been rehashed remade. Doesn't exactly communicate the feeling that they're going all in on this one. More power to them if they succeed and I sincerely hope they do, they're getting my money the very second I'm able to give it to them. Kinda hoping for more ambition on upcoming titles though.
Argue semantics if you want, you still know exactly what I'm talking about.
I did not say anywhere I was expecting it to bomb. My point was that it's ironic they'd hope for a breakthrough on Tri-bis-bis imo.
Alright, fine. I absolutely agree on the value thing btw. Must be nearing 550-600hrs on Tri by now.
The dream lives on!
The game had no online to begin with on the 3DS, so everything has been accessible in single-player.
A rehash has no new content. This isn't a rehash. There is a 3DS and a Wii U version. You are only thinking about the Wii U version. I don't this game will bomb since it seems like the best game for newcomers so far and the MH community knows where to get the game. I think this game has a much better chance than MHTri on the Wii.
They really should increase it. As soon as they decide to make Monster Hunter Frontier on the PC/360 they should have increased the number. The 3DS and Wii U can handle it. True there are missions where you fight multiple monsters but are they all attacking at once?
I see it more as a remake then a rehash when I think about it more do to the new engine, graphics, and content.
I do hope that Capcom does some more outreach to make the game sell. Part of why I'm getting it is the value the game represents in addition to liking the Wii game after taking a chance on it when it came out. I can see this game and hopefully MH4 if we get a Wii U version, lasting me the life cycle of the Wii U. Going forward the content/value certainly going to be a high priority.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I haven't played Ultimate but Freedom Unite PSP required you to go to the local multiplayer area for high ranks. Much like you have to join the online in Tri, even though in theory you could still play by yourself, you still had to be online.
I imagine it's similarly setup on 3DS and WiiU, except the latter probably needs you to get online much like Tri so that when they decide to close the servers all that content will be inaccessible much like it will be for Tri soon, while the 3DS version will probably remain fully functional forever since the multiplayer area is local only rather than online.
Edit: unless WiiU has a local multiplayer area, which it might have since you're meant to play local multiplayer with 3DS too.
Anyway, I guess that guy cares the most about if he can access all the content. In theory that's been possible in every Monster Hunter of course, as long as you got in the game early enough, and especially for every portable Monster Hunter.
What part? They most certainly appear to be using a setup very similar to Tri on Wii for the online mode, complete with lobbies, regional servers, etc. Obviously you need to get online, choose what server to connect to after the patch that allows cross region play, what lobby to join or create, etc, then access the content. All that remains to see is if they offer a different local multiplayer area that doesn't require you to connect to their server, like 3DS, which they probably include for the crossplatform multiplayer with the 3DS. It's probably easy enough to find out for sure by watching youtube videos of the Japanese release...DaBoss said:
I don't think they would do that. I'm pretty sure for he Wii U version they just added online and did a few minor changes. It is the 3DS game with online pretty much.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Naw, both the 3DS and Wii U version work like Freedom unite. The difference being that the Wii U version has an online multiplayer option in addition to offline mini player.
Always been like that afair.
Not sure why folks are arguing with you on this, you're right in the mark. Hell, even with a breakout success; just how many copies can they possibly sell with the current Wii U user base and lack of marketing.
Well, at least someone at Capcom has his head on straight.
I'm kind of torn on my stance regarding this game's content. On the one hand, an up-ressed port of a 3DS game isn't the next gen MH I've wanted for years. At this rate it'll be a long time before we get one. But on the other hand I wasn't expecting to get this at all - I figured they'd skip it and give us 4 somewhere down the line. I certainly wasn't expecting a console version with online.
Additionally, it's an 'expansion' game with G-rank and tons of content, I'm doubting that 4 will be quite as extensive. Not when Capcom can just release a MH4G a year later for free money.
Well why are you ignoring the 3DS version? That is he version you should be looking at.
Not yet.
UncleSporky
Member
There's something to be said for getting there early in the generation and positioning yourself as a mainstay online game, and an exclusive. The servers should stay populated for years to come. Could have a nice sales tail.
It won't do very well without being online. Nowhere but Japan is dense enough to support local adhoc communities.
Neither version will sell gangbusters in the west, but the 3DS one will sell more for sure.
RagingAvatar
Member
Can you tell us if off-TV play is coming to the Japanese version?
I definitely agree it won't do as well it could have had online, however like Santiako says, the 3DS version should do well due to install base compared to the Wii U version. Would be more logical to combine both of their sales to look at how well it does in the west than solely looking at the Wii U version.
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