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[Bjoern the Smexy]

Can you tell us if off-TV play is coming to the Japanese version?

Since it's coming via an update even after the US/EU release I would say yes, Off-TV-Play will probably come to the Japanese version as well, probably even on the same day or earlier, I assume.

 

[stanley1993]

I wonder when the next nintendo direct will be out. have a feeling they would be talking about this and lego city. maybe even Most wanted, which are all coming out during the same time right?

 

[heringer]

I was surprised at how well the game plays on the 3DS without the circle pad pro. That center camera on monster thing is genius. Even the underwater segment was playable.

Game looks pretty good too. Textures are way worse than in Tri, but the shadows make a big difference. It's a decent trade off.

3D is pretty disappointing though.

 

[Mugaaz]

Well, at least someone at Capcom has his head on straight.

I'm kind of torn on my stance regarding this game's content. On the one hand, an up-ressed port of a 3DS game isn't the next gen MH I've wanted for years. At this rate it'll be a long time before we get one. But on the other hand I wasn't expecting to get this at all - I figured they'd skip it and give us 4 somewhere down the line. I certainly wasn't expecting a console version with online.

Additionally, it's an 'expansion' game with G-rank and tons of content, I'm doubting that 4 will be quite as extensive. Not when Capcom can just release a MH4G a year later for free money.

I love MH, I really do. However, you need to come ot terms with reality. MH in the US is never going to get any better than 3 Ultimate on the Wii U. Its possible this will be the last MH here in the West period. The game has more content then any MH game ever (except frontier). There is no reason to be on the fence if youre interested in the series. MH 4 is not going to have even half the content this one does.

 

[kinggroin]

I definitely agree it won't do as well it could have I it had online, however like Santiako says, the 3DS version should do well due to install base compared to the Wii U version. Would be more logical to combine both of their sales to look at how well it does in the west than solely looking at the Wii U version.

Fair enough.

If Santiako counts both together to gauge success, who am I to argue otherwise. Now, what are expectations to qualify it as a breakout for the series?

 

[Fistwell]

I'm kind of torn on my stance regarding this game's content. On the one hand, an up-ressed port of a 3DS game isn't the next gen MH I've wanted for years. At this rate it'll be a long time before we get one. But on the other hand I wasn't expecting to get this at all - I figured they'd skip it and give us 4 somewhere down the line. I certainly wasn't expecting a console version with online.

Oh I'm extatic we're getting MH3U. I'm just surprised capcom would have such high expectations for something that's not even a numbered sequel. Although I do hear your point about G versions having more content, but not sure how much of that information factors into Joe Gamer Alpha's buy/no-buy decision.

There's something to be said for getting there early in the generation and positioning yourself as a mainstay online game, and an exclusive. The servers should stay populated for years to come. Could have a nice sales tail.

That's true. All of that Rayman Legends monies going right into capcom's pockets.
But, yeah, all "Wii U has no games" jokes aside, they could possibly carve a nice niche for themselves.

just how many copies can they possibly sell with the current Wii U user base and lack of marketing.

Yeah dunno. Tri did, what? Like 1m in the West? I'd love for this to beat 1m, but...

 

[robotzombie]

So is the 3ds version going to be bad without the circle pad pro?

 

[Emitan]

So is the 3ds version going to be bad without the circle pad pro?

Nah, it works fine with that new camera lock system. I kind of regret importing a circle pad pro

 

[robotzombie]

Nah, it works fine with that new camera lock system. I kind of regret importing a circle pad pro

Great to know, thanks

 

[DaBoss]

Fair enough.

If Santiako counts both together to gauge success, who am I to argue otherwise. Now, what are expectations to qualify it as a breakout for the series?

I'm not entirely sure, how did Tri do in it's first month in the US or EU? I read 125K for the US, but I'm not sure about that number, if someone can confirm that number then that would be great. I would guess anything higher than that would be considered a success . Breakout success may vary from person to person I guess.

 

[kirbutashi]

I haven't played any games that use the gamepad's mic in any capacity. Does it seem feasible to rely on it with just some headphones plugged in for the other voices? I'll retreat to Skype before I can afford to run out and buy a compatible headset to use on the gamepad.

 

[TheWon]

I haven't played any games that use the gamepad's mic in any capacity. Does it seem feasible to rely on it with just some headphones plugged in for the other voices? I'll retreat to Skype before I can afford to run out and buy a compatible headset to use on the gamepad.

The gamepad mic works fine. You will just have to adjust your background sound.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ltimate-will-spark-a-breakthrough-in-the-west

Thanks for posting, this interview is really interesting.

with great help from Nintendo, we've managed to greatly shorten the delay in release and at the same time we're releasing it for both platforms

Yes, secure that huge AAA exclusive and get that install base.

if we were to change the game system and what we believe is Monster Hunter to something else, then we don't have to name it Monster Hunter, we would just call it something else

Nintendo could actually learn something from this! (Sticker Star, great game, but not Paper Mario)

obviously, the more people who pick this game up will definitely encourage the whole Monster Hunter scene worldwide, so, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate 3 everyone!

LMAO! I fear for MH4/5/6, we should all take Japanese lessons because we know Capcom is expecting 5 million copies or so. They are never pleased.

 

[Malvingt2]

We can confirm that on March 22nd, the launch day of Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS, an application named MONSTER HUNTER 3 ULTIMATE Packet Relay Tools for Nintendo 3DS will be made available as a free download on the Nintendo eShop on Wii U.

This application allows players of Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate on Nintendo 3DS to play the game online by using a Wii U console connected to the Internet via the Wii LAN Adapter or Wii U LAN Adapter (to be sold separately). Using this set-up, one Nintendo 3DS system can connect to the Wii U console, and play Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate online with other players.

Please note that while the Wii U console is providing this function for the Nintendo 3DS system, it is not possible to simultaneously use the Wii U console for playing Wii U software or to connect locally to another Nintendo 3DS system. A copy of Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for Wii U is not required.

http://nintendoeverything.com/11457...yer-workaround-confirmed-for-european-launch/

 

[DaBoss]

http://nintendoeverything.com/11457...yer-workaround-confirmed-for-european-launch/

God damn, the bombs are just dropping. Never would have thought that would come to the west. Once NA is confirmed, then it's one and done. I think they will do bundles in NA with how much Capcom/Nintendo are trying to help this game in the west.

 

[Alcoholikaust]

wait so someone who owns a WiiU and a 3DS would use the 3DS to get online functionality FROM the WiiU?

why not just BUY the WiiU version?

 

[EvilMario]

wait so someone who owns a WiiU and a 3DS would use the 3DS to get online functionality FROM the WiiU?

why not just BUY the WiiU version?

If you have two people in the house that want to play online with a group of friends and you don't want to buy a second Wii U. Like us. Benefits of being able to play the 3DS version during the daily commute is attractive as well.

 

[ActStriker]

If you have two people in the house that want to play online with a group of friends and you don't want to buy a second Wii U. Like us. Benefits of being able to play the 3DS version during the daily commute is attractive as well.

edit: nvm, misread

 

[Wrestlemania]

Anyone know how long the 3DS to Wii U save transfer process takes?

 

[RuneFactoryFanboy]

If you have two people in the house that want to play online with a group of friends and you don't want to buy a second Wii U. Like us. Benefits of being able to play the 3DS version during the daily commute is attractive as well.

As in one Wii U and one 3DS in the same household?

The one Wii U can't play MH3U and run the Packet Relay app at the same time from the sound of it.

 

[Mondriaan]

As in one Wii U and one 3DS in the same household?

The one Wii U can't play MH3U and run the Packet Relay app at the same time from the sound of it.

Maybe the assumption is that if they're both playing at the same time, they're going to be playing with each other and offline.

 

[Mugaaz]

Anyone know how long the 3DS to Wii U save transfer process takes?

I heard it takes about 60-90 seconds.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

wait so someone who owns a WiiU and a 3DS would use the 3DS to get online functionality FROM the WiiU?

why not just BUY the WiiU version?

Because the 3DS version released a year before the Wii U one in Japan.

Does the Packet Relay app let you do keyboard/voice chat?

 

[TheExodu5]

So, Capcom apparently hopes MH3U will spark a monhun breakthrough in the West. Funny that they would latch their hopes on an upresed rehash remake of a wii game that's already been rehashed remade. Doesn't exactly communicate the feeling that they're going all in on this one. More power to them if they succeed and I sincerely hope they do, they're getting my money the very second I'm able to give it to them. Kinda hoping for more ambition on upcoming titles though.

The problem isn't the fact that it's a rehash (it's not), the problem is that the version that has what it takes to succeed in the West, the one with online play, is being released on a system with almost no install base.

If they want the series to really take off in the West it needs to come to systems with a large install base and proper online focus, such at the 360, PS3, or PC.

 

[UncleSporky]

If they want the series to really take off in the West it needs to come to systems with a large install base and proper online focus, such at the 360, PS3, or PC.

How is the way 3 Ultimate works online going to be much worse than on any other platform? What's improper about their focus?

That's an old meme that's been long put to bed.

 

[Fistwell]

The problem isn't the fact that it's a rehash (it's not), the problem is that the version that has what it takes to succeed in the West, the one with online play, is being released on a system with almost no install base.

If they want the series to really take off in the West it needs to come to systems with a large install base and proper online focus, such at the 360, PS3, or PC.

So Tri's online play wasn't good enough on wii to allow a breakthrough?

How is the way 3 Ultimate works online going to be much worse than on any other platform? What's improper about their focus?

That's an old meme that's been long put to bed.

He's saying there's not enough of an install base on wii u.

And also that it doesn't have a proper online focus.

Really don't think he said or implied that regarding the wii u.

 

[Effect]

The problem isn't the fact that it's a rehash (it's not), the problem is that the version that has what it takes to succeed in the West, the one with online play, is being released on a system with almost no install base.

That's only a problem if they release it and forget about it. If the keep reminding people of it as the install base grows there could be success. Keep talking about it and make people see it as one of the essential games you should get when you purchase a Wii U then they can achieve their goal.

Isn't this what Nintendo does with it's games or did overtime? Whenever Capcom has anything to say about the Wii U regarding any game they should push Monster Hunter in some way to keep people aware of it.

Third parties have this bad habit of releasing a game, talk about it for a few weeks, and then moving on. Don't do that if you want the brand to grow.

 

[fernoca]

The add-on seems like ad-hoc Party on the PS3. It makes the 3DS think that the other "local" players are close. And since it uses the wi-fi connection, the Wii U needs to be connected through a wired connection.

Would be inresting in seeing this turned into a full featured app...for all 3DS games (like ad-hoc Party).

 

[UncleSporky]

He's saying there's not enough of an install base on wii u.

And also that it doesn't have a proper online focus.

Really don't think he said or implied that regarding the wii u.

It's...it's in his quote...I even bolded it...

 

[EvilMario]

Maybe the assumption is that if they're both playing at the same time, they're going to be playing with each other and offline.

Yes, exactly.

 

[Conor 419]

The 3DS was the best hope for this series hitting high sales in the West, but with a lack of online play the prospect is totally killed, SO many sales out of the fucking window, Jesus Christ Capcpom way to trip at the last hurdle.

 

[wsippel]

The problem isn't the fact that it's a rehash (it's not), the problem is that the version that has what it takes to succeed in the West, the one with online play, is being released on a system with almost no install base.

If they want the series to really take off in the West it needs to come to systems with a large install base and proper online focus, such at the 360, PS3, or PC.

Actually, the fact that it's on a young platform with a very weak lineup could very well work in the game's favor. If you have a 360, PS3 or PC and are on the fence, chances are you'll buy some other, high profile game. On Wii U, there's little choice, and it's a new toy - people who bought the system are looking for a reason to actually use the damn thing.

 

[NeoRausch]

ummm... what about a title change? 3DS with borked tunnel online?

 

[UncleSporky]

ummm... what about a title change? 3DS with borked tunnel online?

It's at 80 characters, isn't that the limit? I guess it could be "MH3 Ultimate" and say "3DS online thru Wii U."

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

The add-on seems like ad-hoc Party on the PS3. It makes the 3DS think that the other "local" players are close. And since it uses the wi-fi connection, the Wii U needs to be connected through a wired connection.

Would be inresting in seeing this turned into a full featured app...for all 3DS games (like ad-hoc Party).

I have a sneaking suspicion the only reason why the relay packet app is specific to MH3G and not all 3DS games is because of how deeply integrated MH3G HD's online is. MHP3's was just a wrapper for AdHoc Party around the base game (and suffered for it) while this one had dedicated matchmaking servers and shit.

 

[NeOak]

Ugh, why not just add online to the 3DS version... Although it would be cool if more games added support the way the PS3 and PSP do it.

The 3DS was the best hope for this series hitting high sales in the West, but with a lack of online play the prospect is totally killed, SO many sales out of the fucking window, Jesus Christ Capcpom way to trip at the last hurdle.

Because the 3DS version we get is a translation of the one that was released in December 2010 2011.

I wish people would read when the damn thing was released in Japan so they know that it didn't have online when it was released

 

[UncleSporky]

When they eventually shut down the Wii U game's online servers, is it possible that the 3DS's pass-thru could still be used for ad-hoc party?

Because the 3DS version we get is a translation of the one that was released in December 2010.

I wish people would read when the damn thing was released in Japan so they know that it didn't have online when it was released

2011.

You should probably read when the damn thing was released!

 

[NeOak]

When they eventually shut down the Wii U game's online servers, is it possible that the 3DS's pass-thru could still be used for ad-hoc party?



2011.

You should probably read when the damn thing was released!

LMAO

*eats crow*

 

[kobashi100]

http://nintendoeverything.com/11457...yer-workaround-confirmed-for-european-launch/

oh i was under the impression you needed a copy of the Wii U version.

so am i right in saying this only allows one 3DS version to go online? Can i go online and have my bro join me with his 3DS?

The 3DS was the best hope for this series hitting high sales in the West, but with a lack of online play the prospect is totally killed, SO many sales out of the fucking window, Jesus Christ Capcpom way to trip at the last hurdle.

is there a feeling that the 3DS version is gonna bomb or something.

 

[Mafro]

The 3DS was the best hope for this series hitting high sales in the West, but with a lack of online play the prospect is totally killed, SO many sales out of the fucking window, Jesus Christ Capcpom way to trip at the last hurdle.

I'd have been happy enough for them to skip this and just go straight to releasing MH4 in the west earlier.

 

[UncleSporky]

I don't think the 3DS version isn't going to do well because of a lack of online.

It's not going to do well because it has a terrible demo, even worse than the Wii U one because it doesn't even support CPP. Anyone who tries it is going to be really put off.

 

[GameE]

I cant believe I will finally be able to play this this month.

 

[Zornica]

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate's 3DS Online Multiplayer Workaround Is Coming to Europe

Nintendo has advised us that this feature will be coming to Europe — by extension we expect it to arrive in North America too — in time for the game's launch. The required app will be snappily titled MONSTER HUNTER 3 ULTIMATE Packet Relay Tools for Nintendo 3DS and will be available for free on the Wii U eShop.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/03/monster_hunter_3_ultimates_3ds_online_multiplayer_workaround_is_coming_to_europe

so, titles change?
3ds is now online worldwide, sort of

 

[Little Green Yoda]

I'd have been happy enough for them to skip this and just go straight to releasing MH4 in the west earlier.

But we have to pass this test before MH4 can be localized.

 

[Alcotholic]

My first post shall be in this thread. Ha!

Even though I put a measly 150-something hours into Tri, I'm stoked for this game. Day 1 buy. I will also probably play more online this time since it'll have voice chat, off-tv play, all that good stuff.

 

[jercruz]

But we have to pass this test before MH4 can be localized.

TBH I am scared for this game. I put in 1,200+ hrs in Tri, so yeah I <3 it. I would probably put in a lot of time in Ultimate as well. I really hope this game sells very very well.

 

[Killer]

Is monster hunter 4 coming to wii u as well?

 

[Alcotholic]

Is monster hunter 4 coming to wii u as well?

If Ultimate does well in the states, I think Capcom will port it to WiiU.

 

[Orayn]

Is monster hunter 4 coming to wii u as well?

Not confirmed, just speculation. The last two portable entries getting HD ports are a good reason to suspect it might.

 

[Alex]

My first post shall be in this thread. Ha!

Even though I put a measly 150-something hours into Tri, I'm stoked for this game. Day 1 buy. I will also probably play more online this time since it'll have voice chat, off-tv play, all that good stuff.

3 didn't really have enough content to justify wacky 2G playtimes, 150 is actually pretty hefty for 3, I feel.

Hopefully 3G will pad out better, I don't think I'll be dumping gobs of time into it like I used to, not without any friends with Wii U's especially, but I'll probably pick at it for a longer period of time.

4 will probably be different though. I can guilt trip stragglers into a 3DS.