Bioware is EA.
Sim City is now down, the maintenance message is amazing
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Bioware is EA.
Dead Prince
Banned
so they can still collect money from people
SneakySneaks
Member
What other companies have done this? Bioware?
All of them. Publishers for books do it, music companies do it, film production crews do it. It pays great too.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
That poor bastard. They probably shit canned "Aaron" the moment the read him comment on the launch being "bad".
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
20 minute queues! Ha! You're god damned right, son. This is a fucking embarrassment.
When EA starts shoving Always Online into console games I stop buying EA.
When EA starts shoving Always Online into console games I stop buying EA.
BolognaSoup
Member
Lawl.
So is it not physically possible to manually save your game, cause some destruction or try something crazy like seeing how pissed your Sims will get over a certain financial decision, and then reloading the save and continuing on constructively?
fluffydelusions
Member
So yeah it seems there is no way to cleanly restart the same city in the same region. I abandoned my city and went to reclaim but it's still in debt just as I left it. =\
just pointing this out again
partyphone
Banned
pointing what out?
Baron_Calamity
Member
This has happen with virtually every online game launch since Ultima Online. Launch day comes, people can't access their game, claim that its a huge disaster and that the game will fail and no one will ever buy from publisher X again. Then issues get fixed and everyone forgets that it was an issue. This has happen dozens of times. The only time the outrage actually has stuck was Ubisoft.
About the only thing keeping me tied to EA for gaming is BF3 and soon to be BF4. Unfortunately - even though I have a great gaming PC - most of my friends game on consoles - so finding alternatives to gang with them in a shooter like BF is a lot harder than it is on PC.
Even though I believe EA is shit - I say that supporting what they do RIGHT and not supporting what they do WRONG sends a message.
Hopefully they will do BF4 RIGHT and not WRONG. Time will tell. Other than that - I refuse to buy EA franchises.
vitaminwateryum
corporate swill
Hari Seldon
Member
The last EA console game I bought was NHL 13. It took like 5 minutes just to load into the fucking game from all that "Connecting to server" unnecessary bullshit. I'm done with EA console games, and now apparently EA PC games. EA cannot make MMOs, and now it is easy to see why. They have the shittiest server infrastructure from any big publisher. They are incapable intellectually and apparently financially to do what they are trying to do. They should quit making big boy games altogether and just go all facebook crap so that they can go bankrupt in a few years. At least someone at facebook understands servers and load balancing. Fuck EA.
going viral
RPGCrazied
Member
And this is why I hate always online games. Specially single player ones. Its like the game is an MMO, but its really not. Why can we not play such games offline? I don't care what anyone says, its just for DRM, nothing else.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
God I hope the industry learns from this. And if not the industry, just EA themselves. How's their stock doing?
And how come EA can't replicate what valve has going on with STEAM. ?
And how come EA can't replicate what valve has going on with STEAM. ?
I got a refund too. The first time I attempted it there was just not a chance in hell, no matter how polite I was. The guy said they didn't issue refunds for digital purchases no matter what. I had better luck with the second guy I spoke to much later in the day. He said: "I will try for you but will not assure you.." and then again later, after about 15 minutes of waiting: "Don't worry I'm trying my best".
I didn't really think he'd do anything other than ask, and I'll never know the actual process, but he gave me a refund number shortly after that.
I haven't posted the transcript because I didn't want to expose his name just in case there could be ramifications. I suppose I could edit it out if anyone wants to see, but there isn't anything special. Nothing different than the first time I tried. Luck of the draw.
Edit: checking over the reddit transcript again I'm seeing a similarity to my experience in that I was also transferred from a first guy to an Origin CS. I think that may be a part of it... some CS reps just deny the refund and some transfer you to another service department related to Origin where they can and do occasionally give out the refund. In my first attempt I wasn't transferred.
Risible
Member
And counter-pointing that out for you.
edit: beaten like a red-headed stepchild.
BolognaSoup
Member
When the issues are fixed players can look forward to incredibly TINY maps, no terraforming, and forced multiplayer! Oh joy!
Always online/DRM are hardly the only problems with this game.
Jake Tower
Banned
So, maybe I should play some SimCity
I guess not. Fuck this game, I'll try again in a week.
SIM SHITTY
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
So, maybe I should play some SimCity
I guess not. Fuck this game, I'll try again in a week.
You can't. Even with the queue, the moment you boot the game you get a server unavailable message and start over.
Yea I got that too.
Making excuses? I do not support this online only crap, and will not buy this game.
Just pointing out that this can not be changed to offline with a patch or crack.
Oh wow, I did this all the time. Please, someone, tell me that we can still do this?
Interrobang
Member
Nope, no reloading your city. You can't even save when you want to.
From C418 (He made the music for Minecraft). He is not happy either like the rest of the world lol.
https://twitter.com/C418/status/309718916089929728
https://twitter.com/C418/status/309718916089929728
Not really. Everything is stored in the cloud. There is no easy way to remove anything. Also, I am pretty sure its general sever load thats the issue.
Flying Toaster
Member
I am not for Always On DRM actually I hate DRM in all of it's forms but I was really looking forward to a new sim city...
This entire debacle kinda makes me sad.
This entire debacle kinda makes me sad.
...not even close.
Garcia
Member
Excellent.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
No longer possible as Valve, EA, Sony, etc all changed their ToS which states customers cannot join for a CAL, which reflects the SCOTUS decision in the AT&T case.
Which question were you answering?
fifasnipe2224
Member
GAF: Sim City 4 or 2000??
Broken.
4 with essential mods. Check out Simcity 4 thread.
Ya, always online isn't what's turning me off. It's the limiting nature of the game. Maybe in 2 years with all the expansion packs bundled together it'll be a bigger game with more design options.
Alcoholikaust
Member
played yesterday for 10 hours before the meltdown. lol
Yeah, I'm kind of wondering. Maybe I'm underestimating how messed up Diablo III's was, but I got the impression some people at least managed to play it in the first several days, even if it was a pain to get in. This doesn't sound like anyone's gotten through, and you don't even really want to play with friends THAT much for this!
There's this I guess. But was it very early in the morning (by US times anyway) or something?
Diablo 3 sold 3.5 million copies in the first day and hit 10 million last November.
Diablo 3 having server problems should be more forgivable given the insane number of people that bought it.
For those looking for a refund: call phone support, don't use chat.
The chat guy just told me that they don't have that authority and to call them instead. 1-866-543-5435
A Link to the Past
Banned
But this IS always-online DRM. This is what's happening. It's like saying you don't have a problem with war, but complain about people shooting at each other in it.
Interrobang
Member
Seen a couple chat transcripts where the person got a refund. I think it depends on the stubbornness of the rep you get.