VGLeaks rumor: Durango CPU Overview

Gemüsepizza;49742955 said:
Uhhh wow. That's getting interesting now. A guy from Microsoft saying "spec don't matter anymore"? Doesn't this kind of confirm the leaked specs? ;-)

he is independent now, working on a some stealth game for mobile devices.
 
The guy that replied is from 343 Studios, I doubt he would reply that if the situation was stacked for the 'vice versa' version. There's a good chance those rumors are more or less it for 720 specs, I think.
 
Ryan's original tweet is pretty much aimed at posters like you. It's pretty funny.
Yet, I wasnt the one wetting my panties. It was Quatrich. That was funny. People like phosphor & i-Lo were trying to bring some sense in here.

Are you upset that Ryan posted the tweet both ways?

It's pretty much nothing, but some are hoping and praying so they grab what they can.
+1

Bingo, last page was hilarious.
 
The guy that replied is from 343 Studios, I doubt he would reply that if the situation was stacked for the 'vice versa' version. There's a good chance those rumors are more or less it for 720 specs, I think.
no thats exactly the response to give if it was vice-versa. Xbox is going to be a beast.
 
Haha, poor Quatrich banked too much on that.

Worthless tweet, phosphor & i-Lo pretty much on the money.

Sadly no, I banked nothing in it beyond the tweet and its possible meaning/my interpretation of the tweet in relation with other information from reliable sources that somewhat corroborated what Payton said.

If he's not choosing to troll, that's disappointing. His first tweet was clearly alluding to information he is privy to.
 
Yet, I wasnt the one wetting my panties. It was Quatrich. That was funny. People like phosphor & i-Lo were trying to bring some sense in here.

Are you upset that Ryan posted the tweet both ways?
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I'm not the one upset about others speculating about a tweet. You're the one policing the thread trying to knock down any sort of speculation activity...but seeing your avatar, it seems this console war thing is consuming you emotionally.
 
So, maybe Ryan is a slightly disgruntled ex MS employee now. Not an uncommon feeling for MS workers.

The longer they are silent, the more truth there is that the leaked specs are true. All of the loud mouths in MS PR would at least say something. UNLESS, they are not going to make their launch date.

Or, Ryan is stealth confirming the dual APU, always kinect/metro beast. Live tiles of real time game videos. Jets of secret sauce.
 

Selectively quoting doesn't help to make the case that I banked a lot in the tweet.

My post, when taken in the proper context is very clear. If you're unable to understand it, you're free to point out what you failed to comprehend so I can help you move past this roadblock you seem to have stumbled across.
 
It's like I need to gloss over half the posts to get to something that resembles discussion lately. If this is how it already is when we're simply discussing specs, I dread what GAF is gonna be like when both consoles release. People are getted more invested by the day
 
I'm not the one upset about others speculating about a tweet. You're the one policing the thread trying to knock down any sort of speculation activity...but seeing your avatar, it seems this console war thing is consuming you emotionally.
Policing the thread? I didnt even reply to any one of the posts that was trying to make sense of the tweet.

And no, I have the avatar only because it's funny and others have found it funny. I cant do anything if you are sensitive to it or try to extract your own bias.
 
Policing the thread? I didnt even reply to any one of the posts that was trying to make sense of the tweet.

And no, I have the avatar only because it's funny and others have found it funny. I cant do anything if you are sensitive to it or try to extract your own bias.

Whatever dude. Let's all just try to get along. I'm not here to make enemies brah...just casually reading at work!
 
It's like I need to gloss over half the posts to get to something that resembles discussion lately. If this is how it already is when we're simply discussing specs, I dread what GAF is gonna be like when both consoles release

Things will get better once the systems are actually out. Even if there are fanboy arguments at least there will be actual games on the market that can be used as a basis for comparison so some real discussion can happen. The fanboy BS will die out a couple years in. I didn't see it much at all this gen on GAF since the gen was so long. No one cared after a while, it just became about the games again.
 
This thread will be officially linked in new dictionaries as the definition of 'grasping at straws' :D

This isn't the first time.

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This thread will be officially linked in new dictionaries as the definition of 'grasping at straws' :D
Clearly, Ryan's first tweet was alluding to information he is privy to. *WINK*

So, maybe Ryan is a slightly disgruntled ex MS employee now. Not an uncommon feeling for MS workers.

The longer they are silent, the more truth there is that the leaked specs are true. All of the loud mouths in MS PR would at least say something. UNLESS, they are not going to make their launch date.

Or, Ryan is stealth confirming the dual APU, always kinect/metro beast. Live tiles of real time game videos. Jets of secret sauce.
He's neutral and probably wont publicly admit any bias (that you are implying) he has. But yeah, thanks for bringing back dual-APU in this thread.
 
I'm not the one upset about others speculating about a tweet. You're the one policing the thread trying to knock down any sort of speculation activity...but seeing your avatar, it seems this console war thing is consuming you emotionally.

He claims he's not emotionally invested, but I've found he's more invested than a number of people in this thread and beyond.

His reactionary stance from yesterday still raises a hearty chuckle, he's become so invested he no longer realises just how invested he is. You'll find now that you've claimed he's too emotionally invested, he'll attempt the age old turn around and claim that is in fact you who is too invested or it is you who is reactionary, biased, etc.

It's projection 101 and it's all the more hilarious as he doesn't seem to realise he's doing it.
 
Time to fly back from Seattle. Stay locked to The Verge early next week. That's all I'm saying.

That tweet was from Tom Warren of the Verge who focuses on Microsoft products. Could be anything, but who knows, maybe Xbox related.
 
Things will get better once the systems are actually out. Even if there are fanboy arguments at least there will be actual games on the market that can be used as a basis for comparison so some real discussion can happen. The fanboy BS will die out a couple years in. I didn't see it much at all this gen on GAF since the gen was so long. No one cared after a while, it just became about the games again.

When do you think NDA's about hardware will stop? Because ideally I'd want a developer to compare the two kind of like how Carmack did previously.

Although to be fair that may be because the question of which console was more powerful between 360 and PS3 was debatable since they had different strengths and weaknesses. Assuming rumours are true, it might be unnecessary since it'll be a bit more cut and dry in PS4's favour
 
Time to fly back from Seattle. Stay locked to The Verge early next week. That's all I'm saying.

That tweet was from Tom Warren of the Verge who focuses on Microsoft products. Could be anything, but who knows, maybe Xbox related.
Next week? Maybe VGLeaks can beat them to the punch.
 
When do you think NDA's about hardware will stop? Because ideally I'd want a developer to compare the two kind of like how Carmack did previously.

Although to be fair that may be because the question of which console was more powerful between 360 and PS3 was debatable since they had different strengths and weaknesses. Assuming rumours are true, it might be unnecessary since it'll be a bit more cut and dry in PS4's favour

I think after E3 most of the NDAs will be done. We'll have seen numerous next gen games by then and the consoles will be a few months from launch.
 
Yes this is getting really silly now. I think a bigger factor that is a complete unknown is the fact that 2 rival consoles will launch very close to each other for the first time. How will consumers react?

I think this will be a bigger factor than power. I dread the possible shit talk from Sony/Microsoft in their advertising...I hope I'm wrong.
 
Yet, I wasnt the one wetting my panties. It was Quatrich. That was funny. People like phosphor & i-Lo were trying to bring some sense in here.

Are you upset that Ryan posted the tweet both ways?


+1

Bingo, last page was hilarious.

But the Durango does have more RAM

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I don't see what the problem is.
 
Yes this is getting really silly now. I think a bigger factor that is a complete unknown is the fact that 2 rival consoles will launch very close to each other for the first time. How will consumers react?

I think this will be a bigger factor than power. I dread the possible shit talk from Sony/Microsoft in their advertising...I hope I'm wrong.
Yup, will be an interesting proposition.

But the Durango does have more RAM

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I don't see what the problem is.[/QUOTE]
32 MEGA bytes more.
 
This isn't the first time.

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I'm not sure why you're including Yoshida in this discussion.
Yoshida flat out said that thinking that PS4 would be comparable or even less powerful than Wii U was a pipe dream. He was not trolling, hinting, teasing anything. He gave a straight answer: you're crazy (dreaming) if you think that PS4 won't be much more powerful than WiiU.
Ryan Payton with his tweets is just calling out an attitude. He's calling out those people who act like their lives depend on which one comes out ahead, those who need websites like DF to tell them which version looks better otherwise they wouldn't even be able to notice differences by themselves (considering how irrelevant they are).
So it's ironic that not only his message wasn't understood but it was totally twisted into "omg, he's giving a hint about who's going to be moew powerful, omg!!".
 
It could be anything. Probably some Blue shit. The Verge love that.
Could be, still some chance that we get some new info.

I'm not sure why you're including Yoshida in this discussion.
Yoshida flat out said that thinking that PS4 would be comparable or even less powerful than Wii U was a pipe dream. He was not trolling, hinting, teasing anything. He gave a straight answer: you're crazy (dreaming) if you think that PS4 won't be much more powerful than WiiU.
Ryan Payton with his tweets is just calling out an attitude. He's calling out those people who act like their lives depend on which one comes out ahead, those who need websites like DF to tell them which version looks better otherwise they wouldn't even be able to notice differences by themselves (considering how irrelevant they are).
So it's ironic that not only his message wasn't understood but it was totally twisted into "omg, he's giving a hint about who's going to be moew powerful, omg!!".
Dude, you dont get it. Clearly, Ryan's first tweet was alluding to information he is privy to. *WINK*
 
Yep seems to be the sentiment to take on if your competitor has an advantage. He has a case though, look at the wii.

I thought the tweets from both of them were jokes. They all sound like random quotes from invested forum fanboys. So they were serious? If so that was the weirdest exchange between professionals that I've ever seen, lol!
 
I thought the tweets from both of them were jokes. They all sound like random quotes from invested forum fanboys. So they were serious? If so that was the weirdest exchange between professionals that I've ever seen, lol!
I missed this, is there a link to the conversation?
 
Gemüsepizza;49748493 said:
https://twitter.com/scott_343/status/311142206650081281

Ryan Payton probably does not have access to any nextgen devkits as he is developing an iOS game right now. So not sure why he did make such a comment, when he probably knows not much more about those consoles than us. But the other guy, Scott Warner, works for 343 industries.

I'm pretty sure he had access to devkits while working on Halo4. Not to mention his insider contacts.
 
Gemüsepizza;49743984 said:
I meant Scott Warner (Design Director, 343 Industries (Halo Team)). He was the one who replied to Ryan Payton:



https://twitter.com/scott_343/status/311142206650081281

To me this seems like downplaying the importance of specs... maybe because the Xbox 3 is less powerful than the PS4?

Or maybe he means just what he said because the ps3 did have higher specs than 360 and that didn't mattered as they both were pretty much equals in terms of power.
 
I'm pretty sure he had access to devkits while working on Halo4. Not to mention his insider contacts.

Halo 4 is an Xbox 360 game. And I am not sure if you want to give a former employee information which is protected by a NDA.

Or maybe he means just what he said because the ps3 did have higher specs than 360 and that didn't mattered as they both were pretty much equals in terms of power.

Which would not make sense, because the situation is now very different (same architecture, easier development, much better specs).
 
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