Man of Steel - Official Trailer #2

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evil solrac v3.0 said:
yes but you have to understand, that suit nearly destroyed the franchise. at least the movie one. no kid in 25 years is going to say "I grew up with returns and that's my vision of Superman"
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He's a hardcore Superman Returns defender who is getting pissed at me, even though I said I had no issues with him liking the film. I hate the suit and ranted about it, big deal. This is GAF, I'm not sure what he's expecting.

People come in here and shit on the Man of Steel suit as well and he's not calling them annoying.


"Yeah, his Clark Kent Daily costume evolves a bit in the film. "

Yep, which is something new and different. Can't wait to see it all take shape.
 
Messypandas said:
looks like Josephs finally working out for his batman cameo:

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He is doing his Bruce Willis/Robert deNiro impression again. Pretty good,, imitating two people at the same time.
 
Matrix said:
He's a hardcore Superman Returns defender who is getting pissed at me, even though I said I had no issues with him liking the film. I hate the suit and ranted about it, big deal. This is GAF, I'm not sure what he's expecting.

People come in here and shit on the Man of Steel suit as well and he's not calling them annoying.


"Yeah, his Clark Kent Daily costume evolves a bit in the film. "

Yep, which is something new and different. Can't wait to see it all take shape.
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End it. Please. You bring the Returns suit up out of nowhere and then post essays when I poke fun in jest.

Back on topic: that Man of Steel cover reaffirms my love of this new suit. It looks so damn solid.
 
Matrix, you have my axe. I was so disappointed by just about every aspect of returns. Honestly, I actually might have been OK with the suit if not for the needlessly tiny s shield. So terrible.
 
KalBalboa said:
End it. Please. You bring the Returns suit up out of nowhere and then post essays when I poke fun in jest.

Back on topic: that Man of Steel cover reaffirms my love of this new suit. It looks so damn solid.
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Out of nowhere? wtf are you on today? I replied to someone only cause someone compared it to the Man of Steel suit. Again I have every right to reply in any way I want about that suit even if you don't like reading my thoughts regarding it. I'm truly sorry you took my "lol anyone who likes that suit could give zero fucks about Superman" so seriously.

You were not here in 2006 as far as I know and no nothing about my post history regarding Returns, the suit, all of it which ties into why I rant about the movie. It's 2013 not 2006 and I'm tired of seeing Returns even brought up in MOS threads, but it happens and I'll reply to someone if I don't agree with them or if I do.

You're coming off acting like some boss/mod of this thread. I'm done.

"Matrix, you have my axe. I was so disappointed by just about every aspect of returns. Honestly, I actually might have been OK with the suit if not for the needlessly tiny s shield. So terrible. "

haha it's all good and I agree with you on that. I don't have any real issues with KalBalboa accept when it comes to Returns.
 
Router said:
The full Magneto helmet actually looked well done. Its just really badly lit in that scene and the angle they shot the reveal from was bad.l Also matching up the rest of his costume to Magneto form X1 was silly. Full cartoon or nothing IMO.
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It looked like a joke compared to the rest of the film though. I mean, the rest of the visuals, costumes and all, in First Class worked their best when they were reserved and didn't try to go full-cartoon.

MisterHero said:
I get what you're saying, but in a movie, people want to see X-Men saving the world. The last act of X-Men 1 was a bunch of people in dark suits wandering around in the dark. Then Wolverine fights Mystique. Jean Grey gets hit with gunk and Cyclops tries to clean the gunk. Storm had a cool moment when she flew that one time and used lightning. Then Wolverine fights Sabretooth, then Wolverine fought the large spinny thing.
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You just described an X-men action scene. There's a shape-shifting mutant fighting Wolverine, walls and doorways being blown up, the x-jet flying around, etc. What's the problem with them all having fight scenes in the Statue of Liberty building up to them combining their powers to save the world's leaders from Magneto's own intolerance? That's X-men!

X-men 1 didn't have a massive budget, but I don't think every single comic book movie needs to be filled wall-to-wall with explosions, jokes, and alien invasions or whatever. I'm not 12 years old, and there's still plenty of popcorn moments in that first movie.

X-men 2 is, of course, the perfect evolution (no pun intended) for that franchise. Singer was let loose a bit more and got to step-up the message of the series along with the spectacle. It's about as perfect as a sequel can get, in terms of formula.

Matrix said:
I'm done.
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Phew. Good to know.
 
KalBalboa said:
One last bit about the Xmen outfits:

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I love, love, love First Class, but I think he looked imbecilic in that helmet at the end. I mean, compared to the Xmen uniforms in that movie or his overall wardrobe in the movie... I wish they had toned it down a tad.
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Man forget that. Avengers has shown that audiences respond to authentic replications of their heroes. They are freaking comic book movies for christ sake. Tone it down for what?
 
PSGames said:
Man forget that. Avengers has shown that audiences respond to authentic replications of their heroes. They are freaking comic book movies for christ sake. Tone it down for what?
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Captain America was absolutely toned down. Hawkeye too.

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Again: different mediums, different standards. Some comic book costumes translate perfectly, others do not.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
actually they used the Ultimate comics Hawkeye and in that regard they nailed the look perfectly. 9at least from that universe.
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When you have dozens of options to chose from, is there even a real "original comic" argument to be made anymore?

The Ultimates costumes were likely made for the same reason: to tone down how silly that original suit looks.
 
KalBalboa said:
When you have dozens of options to chose from, is there even a real "original comic" argument to be made anymore?

The Ultimates costumes were likely made for the same reason: to tone down how silly that original suit looks.
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actually with a few adjustments (boots, mask. cock flap) I can see the original custome working well
 
KalBalboa said:
Phew. Good to know.
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Thanks for that sarcastic reply to my serious reply to you. Real big of you. Not sure what side of the bed you woke up on today, but I'm staying clear of you for awhile. I'm not gonna get banned over Returns bs.
 
Rastafarian42 said:
Yes no more fighting about past incarnations let us look upon the future of Superman movies and bask in its hopefully future glory.
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Sadly, that will never happen here and it doesn't happen on any of the other boards that deal with this movie.

People can't let go of the past and pop into threads to shit on the present. Hell on Superherohype it's back to crotch talk and "why is WB hiding his crotch in all the photos, it must be bad" Bring back the red undies talk has started again.
 
Matrix said:
Sadly, that will never happen here and it doesn't happen on any of the other boards that deal with this movie.

People can't let go of the past and pop into threads to shit on the present. Hell on Superherohype it's back to crotch talk and "why is WB hiding his crotch in all the photos, it must be bad" Bring back the red undies talk has started again.
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I think most people agree with you that the Returns suit looks like shit. But I can understand why people would prefer it to the one in MoS... it's a lot more in line with the old school Superman/Donner-verse films, and that familiarity/nostalgia goes a long way. I personally hated it - I thought it looked like a Halloween costume, the colour scheme reminded me of evil Supes, and the small S shield gave further credence to Routh being Superboy instead of Superman.

I personally think that the MoS suit is much better than the Returns suit. It feels more right for our time and it looks more alien/"realistic". This movie ain't gonna be campy nor will it play on our nostalgia of Reeves' Superman. So out with the old and let's see where Snyder/Nolan/Cavil will take this franchise.

In the end, all of this doesn't matter. People will accept/reject the suit based on the quality of the film. If the film is good (critically and commercially), MoS will be looked at as the standard for Superman's suit for years to come. If it flops, it will be mocked for the lines, the dark colour scheme, the lack of a break in the middle of the suit, being too edgy, etc.
 
The Returns suit is shit. The less that suit and movie are brought up, the better.


New suit looks boss. Snyder may finally mange to win me over with this film
 
Flash said:
I think most people agree with you that the Returns suit looks like shit. But I can understand why people would prefer it to the one in MoS... it's a lot more in line with the old school Superman/Donner-verse films, and that familiarity/nostalgia goes a long way. I personally hated it - I thought it looked like a Halloween costume, the colour scheme reminded me of evil Supes, and the small S shield gave further credence to Routh being Superboy instead of Superman.

I personally think that the MoS suit is much better than the Returns suit. It feels more right for our time and it looks more alien/"realistic". This movie ain't gonna be campy nor will it play on our nostalgia of Reeves' Superman. So out with the old and let's see where Snyder/Nolan/Cavil will take this franchise.

In the end, all of this doesn't matter. People will accept/reject the suit based on the quality of the film. If the film is good (critically and commercially), MoS will be looked at as the standard for Superman's suit for years to come. If it flops, it will be mocked for the lines, the dark colour scheme, the lack of a break in the middle of the suit, being too edgy, etc.
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Agree with this all, but I never even felt the connection to the Reeve/ Donner suit with Returns suit. Only nostalgia I got from the movie was the music, some of the same lines repeated, Brando, stuff like that. Routh never felt like Reeve to me. It was just all over the place and I find it an odd flawed film.

Agree also with that last paragraph. It's why Returns is basically forgotten besides from the diehards. That film did not win over or make Superman popular again in young kids eyes or even the general public. My young nephew fell asleep watching, he had no problem staying awake watching the two Donner films, though he loved two and I figure cause it was the one with action/Zod.

If it bombs or ends up being shit, we might not see a new film for a long ass time and that's thats more fucked up then any suit.
 
Snyder has a lot to live up to in terms of topping Returns' flight. That movie made Superman's flight look damn good - something which was quite a task to nail down with those complex rigs. I'm sure Snyder is up to the task though.
 
Scullibundo said:
Snyder has a lot to live up to in terms of topping Returns' flight. That movie made Superman's flight look damn good - something which was quite a task to nail down with those complex rigs. I'm sure Snyder is up to the task though.
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He will top it imo. I have complete faith in that from Snyder more than anything else from him.
 
Scullibundo said:
Snyder has a lot to live up to in terms of topping Returns' flight. That movie made Superman's flight look damn good - something which was quite a task to nail down with those complex rigs. I'm sure Snyder is up to the task though.
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The flying we've seen in MoS is already better.
 
jett said:
The flying we've seen in MoS is already better.
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Nope.

Superman recovering against the force of disconnected plane wing, and then accelerating and bursting through the other wing, spinning around the plane and then carefully flipping around to reposition himself so he can safely receive the plane was amazing to behold. Then there's the other stuff like his leaving the bi-plane and flying into the clouds so very, very gracefully or his evening flights through the city.
 
jett said:
The flying we've seen in MoS is already better.
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I agree.

Singer had some beautiful looking shots and some nice flight scenes, but nothing that made me go holy shit. Shuttle scene was great except I didn't care for shitty ass cgi Routh face.

His evening flights through the city? yawn
 
Matrix said:
I agree.

Shuttle scene was great except I didn't care for shitty ass cgi Routh face.
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I believe that was "Shitty-Ass CGI Routh" period. I don't know if he actually shot anything specifically for the plane rescue. If he did, it was barely used. Superman was pretty much 100% CGI for most of that sequence.
 
The only flying we've seen from MoS is him launching into the air and into space in a sequence of three separate shots - the first of which looks like a stagnant cg model being scrolled up into the sky with a flapping cape attached, before cutting to the infinitely superior shot of him going through the clouds and into space.

I know you guys are hyped - I am too, but to say those three shots are better than everything in Returns including his flying in the plane rescue seems ridiculous to me.
 
Scullibundo said:
The only flying we've seen from MoS is him launching into the air and into space in a sequence of three separate shots - the first of which looks like a stagnant cg model being scrolled up into the sky with a flapping cape attached, before cutting to the infinitely superior shot of him going through the clouds and into space.

I know you guys are hyped - I am too, but to say those three shots are better than everything in Returns including his flying in the plane rescue seems ridiculous to me.
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I still don't get why he's got contrails coming out of his feet.
 
Scullibundo said:
Nope.

Superman recovering against the force of disconnected plane wing, and then accelerating and bursting through the other wing, spinning around the plane and then carefully flipping around to reposition himself so he can safely receive the plane was amazing to behold. Then there's the other stuff like his leaving the bi-plane and flying into the clouds so very, very gracefully or his evening flights through the city.
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Agreed. I think the footage we've seen of MoS's flights look really badass, but Returns did a great job in certain scenes showing off what Superman could do too.

FatboyRoberts said:
I still don't get why he's got contrails coming out of his feet.
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'Cause it's cool. Duh.
 
FatboyRoberts said:
I believe that was "Shitty-Ass CGI Routh" period. I don't know if he actually shot anything specifically for the plane rescue. If he did, it was barely used. Superman was pretty much 100% CGI for most of that sequence.
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No wonder I wasn't that wowed. The ending flight with the up close of him smiling was fucking awful. Then he flies into space like Reeve and we get his legit face. Just odd as hell.

I just have more faith in Snyder than Singer when it comes to visual effects. I guess I just feel more speed and I also guess it's the sound of sonic booms and the effect they are going for that I have seen so far that just appeals to me. Hell I get more pumped seeing Superman thrown/punched into the bank fault then anything from Returns hah

I am really curious to see how far they have come with faces since Cavill flying is 100% all cgi from what I have read.
 
FatboyRoberts said:
I still don't get why he's got contrails coming out of his feet.
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Besides the sonic booms, he's changing the air pressure around him as he's flying since he's flying so damn fast. I believe that's why we are seeing contrails.
 
Matrix said:
soon! so very soon.

I'm sure this trailer will be action heavy.
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There's this one guy who posted some descriptions about the trailer, also said that it was shorter than the older one. He also said that it was very action heavy. With about 5 seconds footage of Zod and some other great action pieces.
 
kavinsky said:
There's this one guy who posted some descriptions about the trailer, also said that it was shorter than the older one. He also said that it was very action heavy. With about 5 seconds footage of Zod and some other great action pieces.
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Figured it was more action heavy, sucks about being shorter, but I'm still pumped. Last person who gave a description and time length was 100% spot on about the last trailer. Could be the same guy.

5 seconds of Zod lol we got 1 second last time.
 
Scullibundo said:
An extended preview thing then ala the most recent trailer for Trance or Trek.
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which would make it a trailer :)

I mean, if we wanna get down to it, they're ALL ads.

edit: Here's the thing about that shot of CGI Routh. 1) It's pretty damned good. 2) The suit looks just fine right there (the colors, too) 3) If you're going to spend all that money animating Superman - just make a CG Animated Superman. Have it look like Alex Ross, or Leinil Yu, or Ed McGuinness, or Tim Sale. There's no reason not to.

Well, there is one reason: People still consider animated superhero films to be "illegitimate" somehow. They don't "Count" like live-action superhero movies do.

Even though most superheroes don't translate to live-action very well at all.
 
MTV movie awards is scheduled for 14 April.
Seems like it's going to be the same thing they did with TDKR's Nokia trailer.
 
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