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[Flightmare]

Because he's norwegian!

If he's norwegian he has not lived here for a while. He is nowhere to be found in tax records between 2008-2010

 

[benny_a]

Are you serious? You don't think Keighley was in on this? Like he honestly showed up thinking he was about to do a normal interview and this weird shit just happened.

What I don't understand is that the smoking gun of Media Molecule's internal footage of Joakim being modeled using the PlayStation Move has been ignored.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

Kojima Not Mogren.

Joakim N Mogren

Kojima Not OgreMn

This is some crazy shit.

 

[NinjaTehFish]

Geoff to be revealed as CG the whole time.

B-but.....Whos been eating the Doritos?


:O

Kojima Not Mogren.

Joakim N Mogren

Kojima Not OgreMn

This is some crazy shit.

Kojima Monger

 

[Raging Spaniard]

mmmmmm..

 

[Misterinenja]

^You need to keep up.

 

[Bedlam]

Awww, fun's over it seems. :-/

 

[Raging Spaniard]

^You need to keep up.

So many pages ...

 

[Wario64]

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/gamespot-live/?event=the-core-of-mgs-ground-zeroes-20130327

 

[javac]

This is all a viral for watch dogs, nothing is real, everything is connected. Ubisoft Sweden.

 

[Ace Harding]

Awww, fun's over it seems. :-/

That's what he wants you to think.

 

[Ashhong]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal...ty%27s_Requiem

I know what Eternal Darkness is, but what "delay" do some people think is part of the insanity effects? Surely it can't be the release date delay.

 

[Alienous]

Well, this is the first time I've seen detectiveGAF fuck up so badly.

Shame. Shame on you.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

@rohanlikespants rohan rivas
Lots of talk bout Mr. Mogren from Moby Dick being CG during @GTTVshow Here's a pic I took on site B4 the interview

https://twitter.com/rohanlikespants/status/312632121959272448/photo/1

Oh my god! Next-gen confirmed!!

 

[Voice of Reason]

That picture doesn't prove anything.

The person can exist but that doesn't mean the interview shown wasn't CG.

Yeah, and they do kinda look different.

Kojima is a master.

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

to the hater speculators, just so were clear...


you can have a cg Joakim and a real life person they modeled it after who can wear a shirt and take a picture.

EDIT:BEATEN

It's like the haters never played a current gen game (Heavy Rain, MGS4, LA Noire, RE6, and other games where characters are modeled after real people) before

 

[genjiZERO]

Oh Christ... That's so obviously CGI. Don't get me wrong it looks really good, but "Joakim Mogren" clearly exists only as a silicon-based life form. This is brilliant viral-marketing though.

 

[Ace Harding]

Oh Christ... That's so obviously CGI. Don't get me wrong it looks really good, but "Joakim Mogren" clearly exists only as a silicon-based life form. This is brilliant viral-marketing though.

YES. Another believer. Don't let it die.

 

[BearPawB]

The insanity continues....
In despite of all the evidence in the world AGAINST it being CG...there are still believers.

 

[Visceir]

mmmmmm..

img]http://www.inside-games.jp/imgs/zoom/356066.jpg[/img]

Now paint it blue...omg it's the spy!

 

[NYR94]

Kojima keeping tabs

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

Oh Christ... That's so obviously CGI. Don't get me wrong it looks really good, but "Joakim Mogren" clearly exists only as a silicon-based life form. This is brilliant viral-marketing though.

let's not pretend that it doesnt look fucking good despite the smoke and mirrors.

If free speech didnt exist on the internet the only thing we would have taken away from this is why didnt they show more footage of the Phantom Pain

 

[Amalthea]

It's funny how they cut back and forth between Mogren and Geoff at each sentence.

 

[Deified Data]

I believe it. The guy's lips and eyebrows have such exagerrated movement.

 

[demolitio]

Skynet has become self-aware. God help us all.

Man, Kojima sure does know how to have a good time with his fans.

 

[abrack08]

Why did they even add a filter to that picture? I think he's trying to make it look real but it isn;t,

Voice of Reason
Member
(Today, 01:27 PM)

Lol

 

[NoirVisage]

I believe it. The guy's lips and eyebrows have such exagerrated movement.

unless he's a reptile, his eyes shouldn't do what they did in the animated gif in this thread, very possible it was a back and forth (cg and real)
otherwise..what was the purpose of the interview? Jaded gamers.

 

[Nokagi]

Gonna have to hook some of you guys up with a Nigerian Prince I know.

 

[genjiZERO]

let's not pretend that it doesnt look fucking good despite the smoke and mirrors.

If free speech didnt exist on the internet the only thing we would have taken away from this is, why didnt they show more footage of the Phantom Pain

No it does look really really good. It's very impressive. It just still has that plasticky/rubbery look of CGI and the movements looks "off". If he didn't have bandages over his face it would be a lot more obvious. The guy giving the interview looks like a real person. Joakim Mogren doesn't. Even if people weren't talking about it I'd have thought it looked funny. Even the still didn't look quite right.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

No CG has ever fooled me.

That is NOT CG. Show me one piece of video that has been CG that looks like a real person. It does not exist, because as soon as they start talking/moving their eyes, it looks fake as shit.

So not CG.

 

[Stet]

I feel really bad for whoever's playing Joakim though, he's going to develop a complex from everyone on the internet telling him his facial movements are inaccurate.

 

[Frankenstrat]

I think I might actually side with the "at least partially cg" crowd. Makes things more interesting, even if it does turn out to be bullshit.

 

[Uhyve]

@rohanlikespants rohan rivas
Lots of talk bout Mr. Mogren from Moby Dick being CG during @GTTVshow Here's a pic I took on site B4 the interview

https://twitter.com/rohanlikespants/status/312632121959272448/photo/1

I hope they turn down the motion blur before release, it's alittle over the top.

 

[The Lamonster]

This is the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard of. "Joakim Mogren?" Ok.

 

[GenoZStriker]

I am confused

 

[ADPolice]

Too bad its not CG, it would have been a brilliant marketing move. That guy's twitter pic pretty much closes the issue.

Instead of brilliant/odd marketing we got just a creepy weird guy with bandages trying to be smart. The internet always makes things better. Reality sucks

 

[Tenrius]

I am confused

- Are you as confused as I am?
- Moreso.

 

[Punkster_NY]

oh yeah!

Join Hideo Kojima and the Kojima Productions staff as they demonstrate and explain the workflow and development process of Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes on the Fox Engine.

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/gamespot-live/?event=the-core-of-mgs-ground-zeroes-20130327

 

[NoirVisage]

Too bad its not CG, it would have been a brilliant marketing move. That guy's twitter pic pretty much closes the issue.

Instead of brilliant/odd marketing we got just a creepy weird guy with bandages trying to be smart. The internet always makes things better. Reality sucks

are you serious?
all it proves is that its modeled after a real person -__-

 

[genjiZERO]

Too bad its not CG, it would have been a brilliant marketing move. That guy's twitter pic pretty much closes the issue.

Instead of brilliant/odd marketing we got just a creepy weird guy with bandages trying to be smart. The internet always makes things better. Reality sucks

TBH the twitter picture looks like a CGI head photoshopped onto a real body. The blur helps hide this.

 

[marrec]

I hope they turn down the motion blur before release, it's alittle over the top.

That's only a vertical slice. Wait till we get horizontal.

*waggles eyebrows*

 

[TheNamelessOne]

This thread makes me happy.

 

[Coolwhip]

Hah, people really think that wasn't a real person? :O

Btw, why did Geoff let himself get used for this? Oh right, Doritos Pope...

 

[Ace Harding]

I feel really bad for whoever's playing Joakim though, he's going to develop a complex from everyone on the internet telling him his facial movements are inaccurate.

Haha it would feel pretty shitty to have done an interview (even if you were just acting) and have a bunch of people discussing whether you were computer-generated or not because of how weird you look.

Luckily computers don't have feelings.

 

[Kraftwerk]

I feel really bad for whoever's playing Joakim though, he's going to develop a complex from everyone on the internet telling him his facial movements are inaccurate.

He will feel insecure, and never take the bandage off. He will actually start to believe that he had an accident, and he will start feeling pain.....phantom pain.

:0 !!

 

[benny_a]

Btw, why did Geoff let himself get used for this? Oh right, Doritos Pope...

Because he hosts a preview show called GTTV where it's all about hype and eyeballs?

 

[NoirVisage]

He will feel insecure, and never take the bandage off. He will actually start to believe that he had an accident, and he will start feeling pain.....phantom pain.

:0 !!

thanks for reposting this.

 

[Tenrius]

I'm still in the exaggerated acting crowd, but how does the second twitter pic change anything? It's not very much different from the first one (posted before the interview), so all the CG arguments should remain intact. Or am I missing something?

 

[MormaPope]

I'm still in the exaggerated acting crowd, but how does the second twitter pic change anything? It's not very much different from the first one (posted before the interview), so all the CG arguments should remain intact. Or am I missing something?

Nah, you are correct. The argument was never if the dude actually existed, it was is he CG'ed during the GTTV interview.

 

[Ace Harding]

Too bad its not CG, it would have been a brilliant marketing move. That guy's twitter pic pretty much closes the issue.

Instead of brilliant/odd marketing we got just a creepy weird guy with bandages trying to be smart. The internet always makes things better. Reality sucks

Hey guys look Commander Shepard is not CG - confirmed. Instead of something brilliant we got some guy with terrible tattoos and amazing pecs. Sucks.