Kotaku: The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4

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Epic makes most of their money on their engines. They want their engine on as many platforms as possible. This idea that they hate Nintendo and wouldn't want their engine on the Wii u out of spite is laughable and stupid.

They wouldn't want the engine on the platform if assuming the platform caught on, developers would no longer need them. Epic needs people to need them. They need consumer standards to rise. Unity isn't there yet, but at the end of this 5 year long generation they very well could be. They aren't competing for immediate profit either. There's a long-term business model here to snatch up the monopoly on, similar to how Photoshop snatched the photo manipulating software market. Similar to how Maya took the 3D modeling market. The opportunity for an industry standard game development tool is exist is just now appearing.
 
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rhythm alien? isn't that runner 2?
 
I lol'd.

And yet someone out there will still believe the Wii U will be technically competitive with the PS4/720.
 
Releasing hardware that cannot run new game engines was a huge mistake. The casual market isn't there to save them this time. I'm surprised the downward trend of software sales on Wii didn't make that obvious to them. Handheld market isn't the safety cushion it used to be either.
 
Vita has more of a future than the Wii U because it can be bundled with the PS4 to make a Wii U HD that actually gets games.
 
It's even a joke within the industry. Wow.
Right now, the console is such an incredible failure. Nintendo has never been so isolated. I would laugh if it wasn't so pathetic...

And the schadenfreude over there is completely unbelievable...
 
but guyz it can run all these engines. so what if the creators arn't going to put it on the wiiu. some other developers will! ITS TOTALLY POSSIBLE
 
UE4 wasn't really designed for Wii U level hardware, you'd probably be better of licensing UE3 for cheaper even if you wanted to stick with UE. That or choosing a more scalable engine if you had to cross port. But really all the big guys that would push UE4 all have internally developed engines anyway and there's plenty of others out there. Typically you'd pick the middleware you need for your project requirements. What's lost is the people who can only work in Epic's tool chain.

But that aside it doesn't say much for scalability which I'd imagine would be a big feature of any middleware.
 
Nintendo's idea of dropping a bomb is announcing yet another Mario game.

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Except that they dropped their bombs early because people were getting restless ( new xeno, wind waker hd and so on )

NOw if they still have cards on their hand , it'll be great ... ( and i hope they do )

I'll just hope we won't get another wii vitality sensor E3 .

Well hopefully at E3 they show their hand early again instead of being coy. Loads of trailers and gameplay. Just because Nintendo announced Mario kart and what not doesn't takeaway the impact. We know these games are coming but we know nothing about them. If Nintendo say a new Zelda is coming that's one thing. Showing it is another.
 
Some people need to look at this issue at large.

Games need to sell more than ever. Nintendo creating a platform and sheltering a fanbase that doesn't support third party games is selfish and is actually harmful for the industry.

All consoles should be selling games, not two.

Call me a skeptic, but I don't think it would do Nintendo any good to release a console identical to PS4/Durango and play the exact same game as those 2. Nintendo being different is good for the industry. Yes, they take risks and that is needed more than ever in this dying industry with its drought of innovation.
 
Nintendo's idea of dropping a bomb is announcing yet another Mario game.

Any reason why a Mario game can't be a big deal? Galaxy and Galaxy 2 are two of the highest rated games of all time. Mario Kart Wii and New Super Mario Bros. Wii have sold 34 million and 27 million copies respectively. You may not care for them, but that doesn't make them irrelevant in the big picture.
 
Regardless of what you think of Nintendo and Wii U, this quote (if true) is wildly unprofessional and speaks volumes about why the games industry has a reputation of being given run by arrogant children.

That's what I thought too. Besides, I would think that the best business decision would be to put their services on as many devices as possible. Wii had a huge audience and EPIC could have capitalized on it in a big way but decided to focus solely on the high end. I hope UE4 does well for them, but every time Rein says something tactless I cringe a little.
 
Random thought, when Nintendo was saying they talked to 3rd parties and asked them what they wanted in the console, that was basically bullshit? Or they told them what they wanted and they just promptly ignored it.
 
Call me a skeptic, but I don't think it would do Nintendo any good to release a console identical to PS4/Durango and play the exact same game as those 2. Nintendo being different is good for the industry. Yes, they take risks and that is needed more than ever in this dying industry with its drought of innovation.

The wiiu is anything but a risk
 
I've said it before and I will say it again, this will be the last console Nintendo ever makes. You cant miss the mark this badly in the console business. The only thing that saved the Wii was that the ease of the Nunchuck controllers gained mass appeal with the casual gaming crowd and non-traditional gamers. The tablet controller wont do the same for them. And when you are a minimum of 5 years out from being able to launch a new console and you are already doing this poorly there is no chance to recover.

Dammit Nintendo, all you had to do was make a console strong enough to get downports. Just powerful enough and with a hardware configuration that would make 720p @ 30 fps downports possible. Together with their first party titles they would have had a chance to win the console generation. And not like they "won" the Wii generation. I mean won with 3rd party sales and by being the main console even in hardcore gamers living rooms.

Nintendo fans dont want to hear this. But you cant do this badly this early in the generation. It's the console business for goodness sake. They cant just hang in there for 5 or 6 years.
 
By now the Wii U armada is composed of very obese people, the amount of crow in the diet has skyrocket their bodymass.

We begged for reason at the time, now the last shoe has dropped.
 
Nintendo got to do something that makes everyone convulse into shock they need to literally go all in with games..announce earthbound or some shit bring retro games back with a raging hardon ...Put a pokemon MMO do something lol
 
The engine can run on mobile platforms so no specs have nothing to do with it.It's money and some other reasons why they aren't doing it.

http://www.digitalspy.ca/gaming/new...ear-on-current-generation-mobile-devices.html

Unreal Engine 4 won't appear on current mobile devices, according to Epic Games.

"I'm sure at some point mobile will be a major consideration, but not the current generation of iOS devices right now," senior technical artist Alan Willer told Digital Spy.

"We're definitely going to be very aggressive about what platforms we put it on, but there's definitely going to be a minimum spec in which, okay, this is our entry level for Unreal Engine 4.

"Unreal Engine 3 is obviously working very well for us on current generation of mobile devices and probably going forward for quite a while."

While Willer said it won't take too long for the engine to release on mobile devices, there is bound to be a "period of overlap" between engines.

No doubt UE4 will appear on mobile devices in the future when the hardware is capable enough.
 
The previous unreal engine allowed for some seriously uninspired graphics and art design to permeate a number of games this last generation. I hope to fucking God that developers stay the fuck away from Epic's engine if it's as half as dull and homogenized as their previous effort.

Your art style has nothing to do with the engine. GoW 3 and Dungeon defenders have the same engine, but only a blind man woudl think the two have the same art style.
 
As sad as it is to say this, I strongly believe it might be time to give up on consoles and became a 3rd party games developer like Sega. Just imagine how much games like Mario 64 and Galaxy would sell on steam, or other consoles. it would sell like hot cakes.

As far as handhelds go though, Nintendo should continue that route, no changes needed there.

With that being said, I do think the Wii U will sell at least 40 million units lifetime, once the 1st party games roll around and price drops occur.

I wouldn't put a nail in the Wii U coffin yet though. We will see how the general public responds to the PS4 and it's potentially high price (with dat ram) and see if they just go the route of Durango or Wii U.
 
Call me a skeptic, but I don't think it would do Nintendo any good to release a console identical to PS4/Durango and play the exact same game as those 2. Nintendo being different is good for the industry. Yes, they take risks and that is needed more than ever in this dying industry with its drought of innovation.
You know Nintendo has done this before right?

Super Nintendo had multiplats with Genesis. N64 did with PS1 and so did Gamecube with PS2/Xbox.

And guess what? Nintendo makes money for letting third parties sell games on their system.

So why the hell are they throwing all this money away?

Everybody loses.
 
It's even a joke within the industry. Wow.
Right now, the console is such an incredible failure. Nintendo has never been so isolated. I would laugh if it wasn't so pathetic...

And the schadenfreude over there is completely unbelievable...

Nintendo made the bet that specs didn't matter because the casual audience would be attracted by their tablet controller just like they were with the Wii remote controller.
Their bet has failed so far and what is left is an obsolete traditonal console supported just by them. Wii U is heading the same way of GC at this point.
 
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