WrestleMania 29 |OT| RematchaMania XXVIII-2: Out with the new and in with the old!

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I am a broken man. Gutted. Defeated. If only I had some rolemodel to teach me about overcoming the odds and rising above.

Great avatar. A+

Brock looked like a beast last night.


Not saying HHH was a big sack of fat or anything. He looked "ok" but

Its amazing how much they have squandered Brock. Jobbed to Cena spent a year trapped in a pointless feud with HHH. What ass kisser can Vince feed him out to next? Miz?

Brock carried the whole match. HHH's shitty idea to put on his own half-ass Kimura 3 times was fucking stupid. Brock's there for the payday and for WWE to job out so they can feel like they're bigger than UFC.
 

Linkhero1

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Go to Dailymotion, look up Wrestle Kingdom 7, and strap in for a hell of a ride. It's my go-to recommendation for NJPW as it's fairly recent, extremely excellent, and they have great production values.

Thanks. I'll check it out as soon as I can. Is Wrestle Kingdom 7 their equivalent of WrestleMania?
 
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Thanks. I'll check it out as soon as I can. Is Wrestle Kingdom 7 their equivalent of WrestleMania?

Yessir, and it's spectacular. I highly recommend skipping a couple of the opening matches - while good, it's a 4 hour beast of a show and the last handful of matches are top tier.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
Brock is back on the horse meat, diverticulitis be damned. No doubt in my mind.

He's free to fight in Japan

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Is it normal for Wrestlemania to have absolutely no skits or backstage stuff?

Really enjoyed that while a majority of the card stunk and there were way too many promo packages, at least there weren't any stupid skits.
 

Diablos54

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Sent home sick from work, time for WREEEEESTLEMANIA! (And most likely disappointment, haven't seen RAW in weeks)

Took like, 7 minutes to get started, as usual...

JBL, sweet! Fuck off King, get JR instead.

Big Shoe/Orton/Sheamus vs. The Shield:

Let's go Ambrose chants, awesome!
Sheamus is pretty much a one man team.
Crazy suicide dive by Rollins, thought he hurt himself there for a moment.
Show could have just caught Sheamus, he just helped powerbomb him instead.
SPEAR SPEAR SPEAR! YES! Ambrose with the pin as well! Fun opener. 1-1.
Well I didn't see Big Shoe doing that... Oh wait, yes I did, so did everyone else.

Oh fuck, Cena time... No one cares that you lost Cena, it doesn't even matter, you get title shots like fucking candy, stop bitching about it.

Mark Henry vs. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDBERG:

LOOOOOOOL like Henry wouldn't walk that weightlifting contest with ease. Still, I wonder how this is going to go! Hopefully he botches lifting Henry, that'll be awesome.
Nice to hear Ryberg being booed like Henry gets cheered.
It's been like 2 minutes, why is Ryback wheezing already?
Pretty slow and boring match so far.
THAT'S WHAT I DO! Fuck yea Henry.
Well we managed to lift him up at least, nice to see Henry drop on top.
AND WIN! Sweet! That's 2-2 results wise so far!
SOMEBODY GET THEIR ASS KICKED! SOMEBODY GONNA GET THEIR WIG SPLIT! You go back in there Mark, get him!
Ah fuck, there's the Shellshock... But King told me Ryback was knocked out a minute ago!

The fuck is wrong with their toys!? Lol, JBL hitting that Rey toy.

Team Hell No vs. Ziggles/Big E:

Dolph better be cashing that shit in later tonight!
AJ looks yummy as always. :D
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
53% retain their titles? Really Cole? So basically, 50/50? Idiot.
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
Almost 18 seconds all over again! That AJ curse...
Big E's a beast!
If I wanted a twitter feed, I'd go on twitter, fucking WWE.
Ziggles sells so good.
That was a 3 count! Big E was in the air for like 2 seconds!
Obvious finish, still fun to watch though. Pretty good match. Also means 3-3 results wise.
Fuuuuuuck, the whole crowd's just like YES! YES! YES! with Bryan leading the way in the middle. So good. What a change from last year.

Y2J vs. Fandangoo:


Should be interesting, Y2J will defo do the job though :(.
Y2J taking the piss lool.
CESARO! Why the fuck doesn't he have a match!? Fucking WWE...
Fandangoo looks like a douche.
Codebroken? God damn it Cole, just shut up.
Nice leap from the top rope by Y2J to the outside.
Where did Jericho get that cut from?
Leg Drop!!! Wow, never seen that before. At least it didn't beat Jericho there.
Oh wow... What a shitty finish, K2 classic right there. It doesn't even help to elevate Fandangoo with that kinda finish. 3-4 now, the roll is over.

Barrett lost? To a shitty figure four? To the MIZ!? What a fucking waste. 3-5...

Diddy? Why the fuck are you here? Is this going to be worse than last years song, cause that's what it looks like... IM TOUGH DIDDY, SO IMA PUT MY HAND UP LIKE YOU ASKED!!
No, you don't see us in London, you fool.
I'm coming home? I'd wish you GO home Diddy.
And there he goes, about fucking time.

Swagger vs. Del Rio:


Ziggles better cash in!
So Swagger's with his racist uncle now? Well at least it's a change.
Swagger just got a jobber entrance? At Wrestlemania? LOOOOOOOOOOL.
The hell? I don't like Del Rio's new theme... Still think Ricardo should be WHC instead of Del Rio.
SI! SI! SI!
WE WANT ZIGGLER! *CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!* WE WANT ZIGGLER!
1 or 2 nice submission counters there. Pretty boring match otherwise though.
And Swagger taps. Now, someone kick the shit outta Del Rio and Ziggles can come out!
No Ziggler? Fucking hell, why not!? That's 3-6 now. Great start, but it's going downhill, save us Punk? Cause I know Rock's not gonna win.

C.M. Punk vs. The Undertaker:

Well I already know Punk loses, let's just hope it's a good match.
Punk with the urn is comedy gold!
Live intro, awesome! Punk deserves it.
Punk and Heyman together are just too good.
God damn I forgot how long Taker takes to get down the ramp...........
It's nice to hear Punk/Taker dueling chants rather than LET'S GO CENA!/CENA SUCKS!
Punk going Old School and the following Punk chants bring a tear to my eye.
Taker teasing that leap.
USE THE POWER OF THE URN!
Table didn't break from the elbow, ouch...
TAP! TAP! TAP! TAP! TAP! TAP!
What a shitty GTS lol, AND THERE'S THE TOMBSTONE! Game over. 1. 2. What? He kicked out! Who does Punk think he is, HHH?
Nice urn trick, and pin by Punk. Obvious it wasn't going to be a 3 count though.
And there's the Tombstone again, no way back now! Great match, easily the best of the night so far (And most likely overall, I doubt Cena/Rock can live up to this).

Argh, not Cena BS AGAIN...
Oh yea, forgot about HHH/Bork Laser match. It's going to be annoying to see HHH win... And why the hell is this on AFTER Punk/Taker?

HHH vs. Bork Laser:

HBK from nowhere!
BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL... HHH HAS THE POOOOOWER!
Hopefully this is better than their last match, I felt it was pretty boring.
Bork is beasting it with those suplexes. Gonna be great when HHH hits a pedigree outta nowhere.
F5 to HBK, that's what happens when you attack Bork Laser!
Sledgehammer time.
F5 to HHH now! He's defo gonna kick out though.
And that he does.
BREAK HIS ARM! BREAK HIS ARM!
HBK you dick, how dare you SCM Heyman!
What a crappy finish... HHH wins as expected. Pretty average match TBH. Bork/Cena was waaaaay better than both Bork/HHH matches.

Trump got booed haha.

Cena music hits, boos ring out, sounds just like RAW. Heel turn, Cena, please, finally?

The Rock vs. Joooooooooooooooohn 'Same Old Shit' Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeena:

Decent start, commentary need to get their mouths back from around Cena's cock and their tongue from up his ass though.
Crowd split 50/50? Fuck you King, that's the biggest piece of bullshit I've heard all night.
The boos when Cena goes for the 5 knuckle shuffle, so good.
Cena's STFU looks like shit as always...
Cena jumping up an AA'ing an opponent only moments after a finisher/signature? SHOCK!
Peoples Elbow ended CM Punks historic 400+ days reign. Against Cena? Hardly a 2 count. And of course he's back on his feet 10 seconds after the Rock had to lift and roll him back in the ring. GREAT SELLING!
And another Rock Bottom! And Cena kicks out the moment he heard 2.
Uh, Rock, Cena CAN see you, in fact I bet he's about to jump up... And do that. Fucking Cena.
That was a decent Rock Bottom by Cena, best thing he's done all night!
Cena's peoples elbow was pretty funny.
ANOTHER ROCK BOTTOM!? And still Cena doesn't lose? Wow... I mean, I know Cena will win at the end but come on. 3 Rock Bottoms and a peoples elbow?
This Rock Bottom in AA into Rock Bottom is beginning to get silly.
Ah, I knew the moment he jumped up it was over. What a fucking joke of a finish. It's what he does EVERY FUCKING RAW. What bullshit. I'm also disappointed he didn't get booed the fuck outta the building, the hell WWE Universe?

Edit: At least the boos during the hug were something...
 

joelseph

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Is it normal for Wrestlemania to have absolutely no skits or backstage stuff?

Really enjoyed that while a majority of the card stunk and there were way too many promo packages, at least there weren't any stupid skits.

Last night was empty and soulless, crowd was silent, all around boring. Makes me look foward to tonights RAW.
 

MetatronM

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It was masterfully done how they got out of Cena being booed to the high heavens after the match by having him leave the ring before the Rock and wait at the top of the ramp. Also, after he and the rock did their kiss under the fireworks, they cut the PPV as Cena was going for a solo pose. Although, the crowd did pop when Cena got the 3 so maybe they were apathetic enough to not boo at that point.

I don't know how it came across on TV, but even Rock was being booed when he was left in the ring and his music was playing. People weren't happy with the match, weren't happy with the Rock hugging it out with Cena, or any of that shit. It wasn't really nuclear heat or anything, though, more like a smattering of boos mixed with a tiny bit of applause and a whole lot of indifference as the crowd was bolting for the exits.


Really hoping for a Same Old Shit chant tonight. Anybody going, it's your duty to make it happen.

This happened last night too, but they were scattered and never really built up steam. Crowd response at the end of that match was really all over the place.
 

Dead Man

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I disagree. And I disagree because the WWE outright ignores any and all criticism from their customers that pay.
They have your money already. They could care less what you think. You've paid them to support their product and that's the only opinion that matters.
The only criticism the WWE responds to is the very act of NOT paying them.

What? So you can't talk about sleeperhold club if you pay for it? You can't discuss it at all? What the fuck is this shit? Just because wwe doesn't listen doesn't mean people can't bitch on a message board if they are disappointed, bloody hell. You guys take shit too seriously.

Seriously? WWE is shit, so you are not allowed to talk about how shit they are. Yeah. What sort of busted reasoning is that?
 

Ithil

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I don't know how it came across on TV, but even Rock was being booed when he was left in the ring and his music was playing. People weren't happy with the match, weren't happy with the Rock hugging it out with Cena, or any of that shit. It wasn't really nuclear heat or anything, though, more like a smattering of boos mixed with a tiny bit of applause and a whole lot of indifference as the crowd was bolting for the exits.




This happened last night too, but they were scattered and never really built up steam. Crowd response at the end of that match was really all over the place.

I love how it's all about attempting to hide boos, edit crowd reactions, sneak around negativity, with Cena. I mean, for the love of god, he's the "face of the company", and you need to schedule the show to minimize the boos? If he was really worthy of being the face of the company, he would invite cheers and the crowds would be overjoyed at his victory.

The Cena default is amazingly illogical.

And there won't be any all over the place reactions tonight, it's not an open air stadium with 70k fans, it's an indoor arena with 20 thousand smarks who bought tickets to RAW when they got their WM tickets.
 

MetatronM

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And there won't be any all over the place reactions tonight, it's not an open air stadium with 70k fans, it's an indoor arena with 20 thousand smarks who bought tickets to RAW when they got their WM tickets.

Yeah, I'm pumped about it. I'm 6th row on the floor behind commentary. Gonna be fun tonight. :D
 

UberTag

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What? So you can't talk about sleeperhold club if you pay for it? You can't discuss it at all? What the fuck is this shit? Just because wwe doesn't listen doesn't mean people can't bitch on a message board if they are disappointed, bloody hell. You guys take shit too seriously.

Seriously? WWE is shit, so you are not allowed to talk about how shit they are. Yeah. What sort of busted reasoning is that?
You misread what I said.
I wasn't saying people who pay for the WWE can't complain about it.
Of course you can.

What I was saying is that the only complaint the WWE recognizes as valid is the one where you don't give them your money.

Based on your reaction, I'd say you're the one who's seriously upset about spending your money and getting a sleeperhold club in return. You'll have to take that grievance up with Vince. By paying him money for programming like last night, he thinks you love Cena and want more restholds, more part-timers squashing up-and-comers and more of what you described as "how shit they are".

Think of Vince this way. Pretend he doesn't understand English or any other language on the planet. Pretend the only language he understands is money and everything else is nonsense to him. It doesn't matter what you do or what you say or what you bitch about so long as you keep throwing money at him he'll keep right on doing what he's doing.
 

Spider from Mars

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Remember when Vince brought in the NWO to destroy the company? I want him to bring in Aces and Eights to do the same thing. This company needs a mercy killing. I wish I had a pillow big enough to smother it.
 

Dead Man

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You misread what I said.
I wasn't saying people who pay for the WWE can't complain about it.
Of course you can.

What I was saying is that the only complaint the WWE recognizes as valid is the one where you don't give them your money.

Based on your reaction, I'd say you're the one who's seriously upset about spending your money and getting a sleeperhold club in return. You'll have to take that grievance up with Vince. By paying him money for programming like last night, he thinks you love Cena and want more restholds, more part-timers squashing up-and-comers and more of what you described as "how shit they are".

Think of Vince this way. Pretend he doesn't understand English or any other language on the planet. Pretend the only language he understands is money and everything else is nonsense to him. It doesn't matter what you do or what you say or what you bitch about so long as you keep throwing money at him he'll keep right on doing what he's doing.

That has nothing to do with what I was saying then. Why did you post it as a reply to my post? Of course Vince won't listen. What does that have to do with bitching on a message board?

And you have assumed poorly. Friends have spent money, I have spent fuck all. Why? Because it sucks.

Poll for everyone who did watch Wrestlemania - it's anonymous, but I'm curious of the results:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1bdqEpTmb4HdqLgTe2-gHlWQ98-gmGTn7nr7wWdKtXfM/viewform

I need an option for paid nothing, but watched at friends.
 
You just compared TNA to the WWF during the peak of the attitude era


Wow











Just wow

No, I compared your stupid dismissal of Bully Ray to Bischoff/Schiavone's stupid dismissal of Mick Foley. It doesn't fucking matter if they toiled away years and years in the midcard, the important thing is that they constantly improved to the point where they couldn't be denied the championship and the hard work makes the story of their careers that much better. Especially when both have road bumps of being buried by Triple H in them.
 

UberTag

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Remember when Vince brought in the NWO to destroy the company? I want him to bring in Aces and Eights to do the same thing. This company needs a mercy killing. I wish I had a pillow big enough to smother it.
You only need a pillow big enough for Vince.
The rest can be salvaged. Yes, even Cena.
 

yitdadee08

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I love how it's all about attempting to hide boos, edit crowd reactions, sneak around negativity, with Cena. I mean, for the love of god, he's the "face of the company", and you need to schedule the show to minimize the boos? If he was really worthy of being the face of the company, he would invite cheers and the crowds would be overjoyed at his victory.

The Cena default is amazingly illogical.

And there won't be any all over the place reactions tonight, it's not an open air stadium with 70k fans, it's an indoor arena with 20 thousand smarks who bought tickets to RAW when they got their WM tickets.

I think when George Orwell wrote 1984, he was worried about the WWE and John Cena. What we saw and heard yesterday, will be considered false due to the editing WWE does to Cena reactions. What is true, is that Cena is and will be the most popular and heroic superstar ever.

Twenty years from now, people are going to look back on this era and not know how much fans of the time hated him. Then, one curious smark will get suspicious and attend a sports bar in an old alley for Wrestlemania 49 and ask one of us about how it truly was to watch Cena, but we'll be too old, jaded, and drunk to even think straight and comprehend the question.
 

jred2k

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Leave Vince alone!

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Good call back. Now I'm starting to think that Triple H pissing his pants a few weeks ago on Raw was actually an homage.

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That is actually supposed to say "No Chants". Its a prediction of how dead the crowd would be during Lesner/HHH.
 
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Looks like the Mania breakdown is approx 40% bought at WWE, 40% free streamed, 20% bought from an outside provider
 
My hope for tonight's RAW is that we have Brock go after Cena for a rematch at Extreme Rules. I think a Cena vs. Lesnar II would be good and a good way to get that title off of Cena provide it that Lesnar would work more dates than he did this last year.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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I'm sure WWE knows how to mic a crowd if they wanted you to hear it. Ithil nailed it.

Yeah. They had a choice - make it quiet, or make it negative - they went with the lesser of the two evils and shut people up.
 
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