Same as every android phone the last few years.
Better everything except app/game selection.
CNN: The Android that could crush the iPhone
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Same as every android phone the last few years.
Better everything except app/game selection.
Chinpoko_Master
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Can anybody tell me whether or not 1080p on a screen this size is a noticeable improvement? It seems like overkill to me.
it's a huge improvement.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
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I figured this would be the case. I think I'll just stick with what I have until the Nexus 5 comes out, which I think is later this year, right?
SSGMUN10000
Connoisseur Of Tedium
Welcome to 3 years ago CNN.
Yea, pretty much.
Chrome is the most used thing on my S3, and there's only like 2-3 games I've ever played on it ever.
It's pretty much why I prefer the bigger screen to the iPhone's smaller screens. I just use my shit for surfing the web, and Youtube.
iPhone 5 has shit battery life, well, at least my friends i5's do.
Not that I have much to brag about, the S3 has terrible batter life when I leave my house.
Once I'm off Wifi and on 4G, it's downhill from there.
I need a new phone badly... i'm off contract and ready. But a part of me really hopes apple hits it out of the park with the next iphone and os7 because if not they have a big problem on their hands as people are being enticed more and more by android (I know I am)
but once you've invested in the itunes and the app store you get a little hesitant to jump so fast. maybe the i just have to bite the bullet, get an ipad for all that stuff and use an android as my phone. That seems to be the approach many are taking.
sick of all these battery life issues with phones. they need to get that crap worked out :/
but once you've invested in the itunes and the app store you get a little hesitant to jump so fast. maybe the i just have to bite the bullet, get an ipad for all that stuff and use an android as my phone. That seems to be the approach many are taking.
sick of all these battery life issues with phones. they need to get that crap worked out :/
jim-jam bongs
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Rdio is already in Canada
Them's fighting words!
They actually just beat Spotify with their Australian launch by a few months but I like the Spotify app a bit more. Either way though, streaming services kill iTunes as far as I'm concerned, and I haven't found many iTunes users who don't stop buying stuff from there once they get a taste of that all-you-can-eat goodness =D
1920x1080 screens are definitely noticeably better. I have seen a DNA (5" 1080P) and a HTC OneX (4.7" 720P) (last years model) side by side. There is a difference, and it is noticeable. But I haven't held a One yet, so here are what reviews have to say about it so far.
Anandtech:
Verge
GSMArena:
Phone Arena
ABC News:
Engadget
I reckon once I grab my next phone, I won't ever want to go back to a 720p device.
Yep Quarter 4 of this year.
I had an iPhone for a long time. And recently switched to the Nexus 4. After a couple of months, I jumped back to the iPhone 5.
Maybe I'm just a simple man, but when it comes to phones, I just want it to be very basic (inb4 Jitterbug joke). I only text, browse the internet, and sometimes watch videos on it. Whenever I've had an Android device, I've always found it to be too busy for a phone. It's cool you can do all these things, but 90% of what it does, I don't want.
I'm not an apple fan boi either. In fact, my very first smart phone what an HTC Hero (I mean the original one with the track ball), then the HTC EVO 4g. I also tried every phone you can imagine, from the Palm Pre (loved the OS, hated the battery life) to Blackberry - and a multitude in between.
But I always found myself coming back to the iPhone. Decent battery life, and it does what I need it to do. The build of the phone also feels much more quality than the other devices I've owned. Admittedly, I've always had bad luck with Anroid phones, and picking models that had worse battery than the iPhone. I know there are a couple models out right now that stomp it. So I figured I would make that note.
Maybe I'm just a simple man, but when it comes to phones, I just want it to be very basic (inb4 Jitterbug joke). I only text, browse the internet, and sometimes watch videos on it. Whenever I've had an Android device, I've always found it to be too busy for a phone. It's cool you can do all these things, but 90% of what it does, I don't want.
I'm not an apple fan boi either. In fact, my very first smart phone what an HTC Hero (I mean the original one with the track ball), then the HTC EVO 4g. I also tried every phone you can imagine, from the Palm Pre (loved the OS, hated the battery life) to Blackberry - and a multitude in between.
But I always found myself coming back to the iPhone. Decent battery life, and it does what I need it to do. The build of the phone also feels much more quality than the other devices I've owned. Admittedly, I've always had bad luck with Anroid phones, and picking models that had worse battery than the iPhone. I know there are a couple models out right now that stomp it. So I figured I would make that note.
Not completely accurate. MetroPCS has already deployed voice over LTE.
I got that song free on itunes when it was available. good song.
I just asked Siri to search the internet for the song, Clarity and she found it.
Marty Chinn
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Are we talking about games or apps? Cuz if it's apps, can we please list the landslide list of apps that aren't available or have something equivalent on Android? Before taking the risk of switching, I went through every app on my phone and found 99% of them to be available on Android. I'm sure that last 1% has something that will do the same job.
jim-jam bongs
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The only notable thing I've found absent lately is the Verizon FIOS streaming app for tablets, which is still iPad exclusive. Other than that it seems to come down to games. A lot of popular apps like WhatsApp and Facebook are actually faster and more feature packed on Android now, it's night and day compared with a few years ago.
Definitely. Why not just get the better phone and if you NEED iOS apps, get an iPad mini?
Unknown Soldier
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Huh, you're right. I forgot about them. I wonder if T-Mobile's proposal to acquire MetroPCS is mainly for their existing LTE network.
App selection and most importantly QUALITY. I swear to god that a simple thing as a agenda app was utter shit in android. Only thing that i heard from people is that i should use the stock app from google. That is no excuse. The best one in playstore looked like something from windows 95 days. I had the impression that the developers were extremely lazy.
To clarify myself. As a OS android is at this moment much much better than iOS but lets be realistic. Its all about the apps.
T-Mobile's plan is to repurpose MetroPCS CDMA towers to LTE.
HollovVpo1nt
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It's subjective. iOS has it's own design language and most apps are designed for that. For me, that design language itself looks very outdated. That said, I've yet to encounter an Android app that I use a lot that I think looks bad. I rather have a few of my apps that don't look as good as they could be than have a whole OS that looks old.
The openness of Android is sadly the reason why some companies don't put out apps.
Valjean Lafitte
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Does Android allow you to install apps from outside the Google store? Or is it like iPhone in that, if you want to do anything fun with your phone (like play with emulators) you gotta jailbreak it?
The top of the line Android phones are already better than the iPhone (hardware wise), I don't see the point of this CNN article (like many news articles). Hardware for the most part is irrelevant anyway, in this day and age it's more of if you prefer iOS to Android or vice-versa.
I'd love to upgrade from my GN to the M7, but it's unfortunately like $700 unlocked. Me no likey really expensive unlocked phones. Waiting for the next Nexus and hoping it's no more than $400 unlocked.
I'd love to upgrade from my GN to the M7, but it's unfortunately like $700 unlocked. Me no likey really expensive unlocked phones. Waiting for the next Nexus and hoping it's no more than $400 unlocked.
Marty Chinn
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Yes, you can side load apps once you enable it in the settings.
jim-jam bongs
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Calendar apps are poor on the Play store because Google Calendar is really good, so nobody bothers except a couple of devs. That's not an excuse, it's an explanation.
Indeed. I have tried some of the maps apps too, and they are also pretty laughable (On both iOS and Android) but thats likely more because GMaps is just so good that there's very little space there to compete, sadly.
It's a little funky though. I had to manage a Q Zero or whatever it's called from Verizon for someone and it wanted you to use a mediaserver connection before even seeing the music folder in the external hard-drive option for the USB. So weird.
Valjean Lafitte
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345triangle
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right but iOS is a mature marketplace with a bunch of people willing to pay for stuff, and that's why you'll see lots of interesting, well-designed alternative solutions like fantastical. android may have everything covered in terms of functionality, but apps on iOS tend to be a lot more attractive and interesting.
it's not like the stock iphone calendar app is terrible (though it's pretty gross on ipad).
Possibly text. I think 1080p on 5 inch is really stretching it. I couldn't see the Xperia Z's pixels, but in something that's AA'd I can't see them on my 544p Vita either. Rendering 1080p games with today's phone's memory bandwidth is also very limiting. The two MacBook Retinas both struggle with frame rate drops when scrolling certain webpages.
I love screen res, but it's just silly at this point. I'm sitting in front of a 23inch 1080p display and the text would maybe be the size of pixels on the original iPhone if it was 5 inches.
spindoctor
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Man this phone isn't even going to stomp the S4, let alone the Iphone. It's having it's 2 weeks in the sun before the S4 marketing campaign completely drowns it out of public perception. And then 3 months down the line HTC will come up with another flagship, like they always do and this one will be almost forgotten by the end of the year.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
I swore off the iPhone when I switched to an Xperia S after my 4, but I'm back on iOS now. I seriously just want my phone to WORK without any weird workarounds or bugs.
Xperia screen was so nice size-wise. Battery life was amazing. LOVE Android and what it offers, it's so far ahead of iOS in functionality (but behind in polish, imo). Too many annoying bugs on the Sony though, it drove me nuts.
Doesn't help that Sony seem to have forgotten their 'flagship' even exists anymore. Still waiting on a JB update. I read recently that they've released FIFTEEN new phones this year, no wonder their support sucks ass.
jim-jam bongs
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Definitely, as a user I feel sated but as a developer I find it difficult to find a good niche to fill.
Honestly if you look at the top grossing apps on each now the crossover rate is like 95%. The Play users and App Store users are basically the same people, and the vast majority of apps look the same on both but have better functionality on Android because of the more flexible OS.
To be frank, the calendar app on iOS is great if you use a Mac, less great otherwise. Mrs Bongs is always complaining about her struggles with getting her phone calendar and work calendar properly synced, whereas it's a breeze with Google. Obviously Exchange (ewwwww) is the main culprit there, but it's still frustrating that it only seems to handle one way sync except very occasionally when it works right for no apparent reason.
The Faceless Master
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like 99% of devices do. there are a few that don't like some older (mid 2011 and earlier) AT&T Android handsets, though some of them were updated to allow it and some have workarounds...
i thought everyone RAVED about Business Calendar...
URL?
HTC 1+1
that's no excuse, Samsung releases like 50 models a year and somehow they manage to update their flagships, even in the USA!
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Yeah, I meant it more as 'they obviously don't have the know how to devote themselves to all those models'.
It sucks as I really, really love the design of the phone and nearly everything about it but it just had a heap of annoying bugs. I'm actually playing around with some JB roms for it now, may as well see what I can do
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I still haven't found a smoother browsing experience than on iOS; especially with the iPhone 5. Pinch to zoom and scrolling just seem much more consistent on the iPhone versus what I've seen on a variety of Droid phones and the GS3. The Nokia 920 with WP is much closer to matching the experience, IMO. However, I'm not a huge fan of the text rendering on that device.
Marty Chinn
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I know what you mean. The smoothness of iOS is something that has always been something I felt was the bar that people should be hitting. So far from my brief hands on I think the HTC One might fit the bill due to the faster CPU combined with the emphasis Google put into Jelly Bean for a smooth experience. It certainly hasn't been met from other Android phones I've seen.
jim-jam bongs
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iOS definitely still has the edge when it comes to ui responsiveness in general, no arguments there. I have no idea what the limitation is on Android devices. My N7 has a quad core Tegra in it but my iPad classic and Mrs Bongs' iPhone 5 destroy it on smooth zoom and scroll, and even just basic feedback when you launch an app or switch between them.
The Nexus 4 is by far the smoothest Android phone that I've used, but it still hitches and drops frames very occasionally. It happens very rarely, though, and I doubt that most people would be able to notice it.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Yeah, it's noticeable regardless of the power under the hood. Heck, as long as you're not on a picture-heavy page, I feel an iPhone 4 can compete against a 2012 Android handset if we're talking exclusively about pinch-to-zoom, rotate, and scrolling in Safari.
Which is a shame, as I really do love a lot of the things other OSes are bringing to the game. No doubt, iOS could really use some significant improvements - more integration (I hate using an app to upload to Flickr), non-static widgets (why does the weather app not show the current temp), and a more customizable lock-screen. But Apple consistently wins in regard to general smoothness (absolutely crucial to the experience) and build quality/components. The HTC One seems to have finally caught up on the latter - if it could catch up on the former, I could very well see myself giving it a shot.
Which is a shame, as I really do love a lot of the things other OSes are bringing to the game. No doubt, iOS could really use some significant improvements - more integration (I hate using an app to upload to Flickr), non-static widgets (why does the weather app not show the current temp), and a more customizable lock-screen. But Apple consistently wins in regard to general smoothness (absolutely crucial to the experience) and build quality/components. The HTC One seems to have finally caught up on the latter - if it could catch up on the former, I could very well see myself giving it a shot.
IHaveCandy
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Engine noise can interfere.
Like I said, the Nexus 4 does hitch slightly, but it's not detrimental to the experience at all. It feels way smoother than an iPhone 4, for example, and I'd judge it to be close to a 4s in terms of general fluidity.
In regards to software, I think the biggest problem with ios is the Notification Center. It's an incredibly poor substitute for Android's excellent Notification Drawer. Apple desperately needs to overhaul it for the next ios release.
Edit - I'm not sure who said this, but I think it's pretty true.
"Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple is getting better at what Google does best"
The Nexus 4 was the first phone that, in my opinion, could rival the iPhone in terms of build quality, design, and software. The HTC One is the second phone. I think, going forwards, we'll be seeing more phones and more tablets that are able to compete with Apple's offerings. I really hope this competition stirs Apple and encourages them to improve their products.
This was the best alternative to google agenda. Look at it. Look at how ugly it is. Look how expensive it is. Same app would cost less more in app store and look much better with same functions. I have the feeling these lazy ass developers have no competition on android and sell crap apps in playstore.
Though the one has fantastic build quality and looks incredible, I feel that I shouldn't fall into the trap of basing my purchase solely on that, especially if I'm going to be using a case. That's what is making this decision hard for me. I know that down the road, it will be about what gives me the most consistent performance and battery life along with developer support. I previously thought that the iPhone 5 had some of best hardware design, but I've been fine not having something to that level of design.
Fantastical for iOS is $5 (yet with no free version and no trial unlike Business Calendar)
Agenda Calendar is $2 (same price as the iOS version)
jim-jam bongs
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That and business calendar are terrible substitutes because they're not pretty enough. Mhmm.
The HTC One default browser is fucking amazing. Desktop user agent, flash that works for everything, PIE controls, default text reflow and SMOOOOOTTTHHHHH!
Chrome is quite frankly an embarrassment at the side of it.
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