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[TheUnknownForce]

I still believe EA will release sports titles atleast on Wii U.

So far, that's a negatory. No Madden nor FIFA yet despite major announcements saying as such, and I doubt they are waiting to announce a next-gen Wii U version.

 

[darkside31337]

Capcom has to be relatively pleased with Monster Hunter.

Isn't it worse than what Tri did in its first month?

I wonder what the 3DS / Wii U split was.

 

[Dalthien]

I do feel both BioShock and Tomb Raider had ~1 million potential, but I feel this isn't disastrous for them at least.

It will be interesting to see how things are doing in Q4 and this time next year.

I'm not sure what the expectations were for Bioshock, but SE wanted 5-6M for Tomb Raider, and ended up shipping 3.4M.

Tomb Raider was out the full 5 weeks in March. With these numbers, there's not a chance in hell that SE gets through that 3.4M shipment without some significant price protection costs eating even further into the game, which even then still missed expectations by a good 1.5M. I'm not seeing any upside to this picture from a sales perspective.

 

[Neander]

Welcome to before today

Sad, but true. Lol.

 

[chubigans]

Holy SHIT, Criterion deserves better than that. Those NFS numbers should signal a red alert for any 3rd party. Man that's bad.

 

[Kusagari]

I wonder if Call of Duty for Wii U is showing any legs at all. The games did just decently enough to stay on Wii. If Activision ever drops Wii U, then they've really got nothing for third party support.

The wii u is basically living off Ubisoft and WB at this point. They're the only companies giving them games that aren't month late ports.

 

[Nirolak]

100k < lego < hunter 3ds+wiiu < 130k
nfs < 10k
IGN4.7 ~ 30k

Can we give Castlevania back to IGA?

I'm pretty sure Order of Ecclesia did better than that and I'm sure it cost much less.

 

[Daingurse]

It won't do DS numbers in the long run.

However, you don't buy it when gamers say button>touch when it comes to portable gaming? I mean, I can't see anyone who IS serious about gaming portably NOT take a long look at the 3DS (and maybe, hopefully one day, the Vita).

That's always going to be my stance, but I think Nintendo lost a massive amount of casual people to mobile.

 

[Road]

That color scheme is horrible. I can't tell three of those colors apart.

Sorry. Never thought of colorblind people. =\

Can you tell them apart like this?

 

[kinggroin]

10k for a mainstream title like NFS is beyond paltry. Red alert on all 3rd party support.

Shit. You dont think....they're onto this situation yet do you?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

So far, that's a negatory. No Madden nor FIFA yet despite major announcements saying as such, and I doubt they are waiting to announce a next-gen Wii U version.

If we dont hear madden being made for it at e3 then I will believe. Gonna take me a second to believe they wont release that on Wii U.

 

[ambientmystic]

Probably, but it was released a few months after the other versions, and at full retail cost.

With improved graphical features! PC quality textures and improved lighting!

Pfftttt, like that did anything to entice Wii U owners, they stayed clear of that late and overpriced port.

 

[Nirolak]

I'm not sure what the expectations were for Bioshock, but SE wanted 5-6M for Tomb Raider, and ended up shipping 3.4M.

Tomb Raider was out the full 5 weeks in March. With these numbers, there's not a chance in hell that SE gets through that 3.4M shipment without some significant price protection costs eating even further into the game, which even then still missed expectations by a good 1.5M. I'm not seeing any upside to this picture from a sales perspective.

If you made a sequel on a two year cycle instead of TR's five year cycle you could make good money on it at this level. That's the primary upside of at least having sales volume to work with.

 

[AranhaHunter]

You mean this chart?

It's only gonna get worse for the WiiU IMO. I'm gonna wait until after Christmas, but unless PS4 and 720 are complete bombas AND PS3/360 do not get price drops this fall, then the GCN upper limit for the WiiU might be a tad optimistic.

 

[Aquamarine]

Isn't Madden 25 not announced for WiiU ?

Correct. And with <10K for NFS Wii U, Madden 25 is NOT coming out.

So far, Madden 24 has charted:

November 2012 - #13
December 2012 - #13
January 2013 - #11
February 2013 - Below position #15

...on the Wii U relative software charts.

And it couldn't even manage 100,000 units sold in 4 months of being on the market.



With sales like that + NFS sales + EA restructuring, EA isn't touching the Wii U again.

 

[Portugeezer]

Not as of next month by the looks of it! Nintendo are going to have to come up with new spin.

This month: "3ds generated more sales in the same time"

Next month. The Wii U vs Wii spin: "3ds generated more revenue in the same time"

 

[TheNatural]

Konami should just release a Castlevania compilation with the 300 2D Castlevania's on one cartridge. Would be a cheaper and easier way to make money than crappy 3D versions.

 

[Durante]

Can we give Castlevania back to IGA?

I'm pretty sure Order of Ecclesia did better than that and I'm sure it cost much less.

And it was a better game to boot. With a much better framerate.

 

[TheUnknownForce]

Isn't it worse than what Tri did in its first month?

I wonder what the 3DS / Wii U split was.

It's about equal to or a little less than Tri's launch, and that was heavily marketed while this game was not (it had ads on Twitch but what else). I suspect it will have a bit more legs this time around with nothing on Wii U until May.

 

[MikeE21286]

Madden 25 isnt announced vita, ps4 or 720 either.

In all fairness the 720 doesn't exist and PS4 was announced < 2 months ago. It will come out for those two systems without question.

Vita? Honestly probably not. Maybe though since it came out last year and seemed to do *relatively* decent IIRC.

A WiiU version not being announced is more than concerning

 

[FreedomFighter]

Not for long. Look at the above chart.

Spoiler

Pokemon X/Y

3DS went from 'doing horribly' to 'won't be doing as well as the DS soon'. Them goalposts. They shift.

 

[jabuseika]

hunter 3ds+wiiu < 130k
nfs < 10k

That is insane.

Now we know EA is out for sure.

 

[Instro]

Can we give Castlevania back to IGA?

I'm pretty sure Order of Ecclesia did better than that and I'm sure it cost much less.

IGA clawing his way out of the Konami basement as we speak.

 

[Freezie KO]

The wii u is basically living off Ubisoft and WB at this point. They're the only companies giving them games that aren't month late ports.

They have a good relationship with Ubisoft, but the Rayman thing makes me doubt if they'll get any substantive exclusives. And Rayman is going to get devoured now by people waiting for Nintendo's own games.

 

[Somnia]

It's most likely over a million now, but not much. That is a pretty decent number if it can have the Nintendo legs.

I didn't count what it's sold in 2013, oops. So ya probably a bit over a million. Still a decent attach rate, if it has any legs it'll do fine in the long run.

 

[DaBoss]

100k < lego < hunter 3ds+wiiu < 130k
nfs < 10k
IGN4.7 ~ 30k

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!

 

[Cheebo]

Spoiler

Pokemon X/Y

3DS went from 'doing horribly' to 'won't be doing as well as the DS soon'. Them goalposts. They shift.

Streams will cross next month.

 

[Metallix87]

Can we give Castlevania back to IGA?

I'm pretty sure Order of Ecclesia did better than that and I'm sure it cost much less.

I'm pretty sure IGA will likely be handling the future 3DS entries (if there are any), given the sales and reviews for this release.

 

[Dr. Feel Good]

Anyone have a good estimate fr Vita worldwide? How long can retailers keep this thig shelves? It's a compete disaster.

 

[RurouniZel]

 

[John Harker]

I think Mirrors of Fate is a great game! I wasn't expecting gangbusters for it,but 3ds is still a crap shoot for third party titles except the odd one or two. people have been laughing at the platform recently, saying no ones going to ever come close to even angry birds on it

I'm really happy Nintendo has a lot of momentum but it isn't the ds success story for everyone

How did the DS castlevanias do at launch?

 

[FreedomFighter]

Not as of next month by the looks of it! Nintendo are going to have to come up with new spin.

You guys already beat them to it.

 

[prag16]

I'll never forget "unprecedented partnership". What a joke.

ALL late ports from EA. Every last title.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

If you made a sequel on a two year cycle instead of TR's five year cycle you could make good money on it at this level. That's the primary upside of at least having sales volume to work with.

They'll have to go through a generational shift for the sequel, so I don't think they'll be able to put Tomb Raider Next out that quick.

 

[NateDrake]

Sorry. Never thought of colorblind people. =\

Can you tell them apart like this?

As a colorblind person, yes, that is better. Much thanks.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Very happy for both Infinite and Tomb Raider! Both deserve the high sales.

 

[Nirolak]

They'll have to go through a generational shift for the sequel, so I don't think they'll be able to put Tomb Raider Next out that quick.

Quite possibly not, but they do have a new IP going, so they can manage staff and at least keep it down to 3 years in total with less in actual production.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

Weren't people saying GOW would outsell GOW?

I predict GOW will have longer legs than GOW.

 

[TheNatural]

Sorry. Never thought of colorblind people. =\

Can you tell them apart like this?

It's cool man, I just need glasses. Helped out the other guy though, thanks.

 

[RoKKeR]

I predict GOW will have longer legs than GOW.

Indeed.

 

[Mashing]

They have a good relationship with Ubisoft, but the Rayman thing makes me doubt if they'll get any substantive exclusives. And Rayman is going to get devoured now by people waiting for Nintendo's own games.

Yep, completely moronic decision to hold it back AND announce a port.

 

[airmangataosenai]

Sorry. Never thought of colorblind people. =\

Can you tell them apart like this?

This illustrates why comparing the NDS early on is a useless measuring device. One of the stats that always gets overlooked is that the NDS never was able to match the success of the GBA launch aligned. It ultimately did better because Nintendo killed off the GBA early to vie for developer support against the PSP.

 

[prag16]

Holy SHIT, Criterion deserves better than that. Those NFS numbers should signal a red alert for any 3rd party. Man that's bad.

Full priced 5 month late port.

 

[Kusagari]

They have a good relationship with Ubisoft, but the Rayman thing makes me doubt if they'll get any substantive exclusives. And Rayman is going to get devoured now by people waiting for Nintendo's own games.

I doubt they get any more exclusives but just getting things like Watchdogs or the new Batman day one is a step up from what everyone else is doing.

 

[AranhaHunter]

Capcom has to be relatively pleased with Monster Hunter.

They wanted the franchise to get big in the west. Nintendo pushed it and the sales are still nothing to write home about. I believe part of the reason they went completely exclusive with MH on Nintendo is because they believed Nintendo could push MH to be bigger than ever before (kinda like how Nintendo pushed DQIX to be the best selling DQ in the west IIRC?)

With that said, given the WiiU's current situations, I believe the sales are acceptable.

 

[NateDrake]

I think Mirrors of Fate is a great game! I wasn't expecting gangbusters for it,but 3ds is still a crap shoot for third party titles except the odd one or two. people have been laughing at the platform recently, saying no ones going to ever come close to even angry birds on it

I'm really happy Nintendo has a lot of momentum but it isn't the ds success story for everyone

How did the DS castlevanias do at launch?

Stop charging $40 for games! $29.99 and more people will buy software. If they are laughing at 3DS, then what are they doing about Vita software?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

In all fairness the 720 doesn't exist and PS4 was announced < 2 months ago. It will come out for those two systems without question.

Vita? Honestly probably not. Maybe though since it came out last year and seemed to do *relatively* decent IIRC.

A WiiU version not being announced is more than concerning

Like I said Ill wait till E3. Madden was not announced for Wii U until July? last year same with Vita.

Im pretty sure press releases admit if a console is not unvield yet they refer to them as the "next generation consoles"

 

[TheNatural]

You mean this chart?

Wow. That's the only chart that need to be shown with regards to Wii U.

That's really, really bad. I would guess it's tracking ahead of N64, but I don't know if those numbers are even around.

 

[DaBoss]

cream, can you give a rough idea of how Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate sales were split between 3DS and Wii U?

They wanted the franchise to get big in the west. Nintendo pushed it and the sales are still nothing to write home about. I believe part of the reason they went completely exclusive with MH on Nintendo is because they believed Nintendo could push MH to be bigger than ever before (kinda like how Nintendo pushed DQIX to be the best selling DQ in the west IIRC?)

With that said, given the WiiU's current situations, I believe the sales are acceptable.

They didn't push it at all in NA. It is EU where Nintendo is responsible.

 

[CrunchyB]

ALL late ports from EA. Every last title.

Releasing ME3 (and not the trilogy) was simply insulting and made no sense. It could have been a shot at capturing Nintendo gamers who weren't familiar with the universe. But instead they ported the third game and sent it out to die.

edit: ffs, the PC version is 20 Euros! Who would pay triple as much for 1/3rd of the content?