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[SpaceHobo]

What would you have done differently?

He would do it better! By, you know, doing it better. Don't ask for details. Just...better.

I was asking a fair question imho. I'm not saying that the BPD/FBI/Whoever are doing a bad job, I have no idea , it's just crazy to an outsider reading all this, watching the feeds and trying to comprehend how such an amount of law enforcement can be given such a run around by a 19 year old.

 

[akira28]

They should have drones and heatscan helicopters all over.

I think he's going to try to martyr himself. He can't make it anywhere. Turkey, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia? Hah. He can only take more people down with him.

 

[Yawnier]

EDIT 231 2:57 PM: Man seen with backpack and hoodie.

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1coqwo/live_boston_update_thread_part_5/

Today probably isn't the wisest day to be walking around the Boston area with those two items.

 

[dubc35]

vest had the initials F, B and I. Not sure what that means

lol'd at that too

 

[giancarlo123x]

Im on the shitter at work. I cant stop reading this thread every chance i get.

 

[eudaemonic]

Man... bless the people posting the scanner. I appreciate being able to listen while I'm working.

 

[helloresolven]

UStream ad just as it was picking up. Like 24.

 

[BFIB]

Hot Blonde Reporter back on Fox 25.

Dang! Just went back to the other guys.

 

[tajd]

i found it myself thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYfjPG2PMy8

 

[Mr. RHC]

Listening to this is surreal.

 

[sketchsanchez]

Is there a summary of everything that has happened since the bombing up to this point? I have been at work during much of the newscasts and the GAF threads are so massive.

The internet isnt just gaf.

 

[JoseOle5990]

vest had the initials F, B and I. Not sure what that means

FBI? Like the Federal Bureau of Investigations?

Fake edit: Oh wait is that what the cop said on the scanner, I missed that second part lol

 

[GungHo]

Afaik do more conservative Muslims not drink alcohol? Don't know about smoking.

I guess his intention was to find out just 'how much' muslim they were

They do not drink. I'd challenge the smoking, though. Almost every Muslim male I know from North Africa, Jordan, Iraq, and Iran smokes one to two packs a day. And if they're not doing that, they're on the hookah. I blame the French and Italians for that. The American born seem to do it much less.

 

[The Albatross]

Anonymous ‏@YourAnonNews 4m
WBZ radio Boston just reported seeing a tank with a soldier manning the machine gun on top.

Da fuck?

Probably not a tank, probably an APC with a mounted gun... Similar to what SWAT police use but just with a mounted gun.

 

[KHarvey16]

Expressing concern about why we have paramilitary in the streets isn't something you need to have specialized knowledge to comment on. It relates to fundamental interests common to all citizens.

You aren't following the conversation at all.

 

[Loxley]

Misinformation: they clearly said authority to stop the vehicle and take the subjects in for questioning not shoot

Needs to be repeated, they said absolutely nothing about shooting the suspects, it was pretty explicitly stated that they are authorized to shoot at the car to stop it from moving so they can arrest them.

 

[JacksUsername]

Animated timeline of the events

Thanks for sharing - really gives a scope of the ground they covered overnight.

 

[empty vessel]

I do think shutting down the city was a bad call. I think it sends a bad message to other bad guys. If a couple of kids can hold an American city hostage, what could an organized group of equipped adults do?

It is quite remarkable. I'm not sure it's been handled well at all by law enforcement.

 

[The Lamonster]

FBI? Like the Federal Bureau of Investigations?

Female Body Inspectors

It is quite remarkable. I'm not sure it's been handled well at all by law enforcement.

Agree. FBI and local enforcement has been impressive.

 

[MIMIC]

This never happened according to police at last briefing.

Thanks for the update. I just got in about 10 minutes ago.

But still, I'm a little shocked that he managed to get away after being on camera and involved in a chase with police. How often does that even happen when a person who flees the police successfully evades apprehension?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Because they'd had their photos released and their identities were now known. Why's that difficult to understand. It's one thing to bamboozle the family into getting them to fly you back to Russia to see relatives, it's another thing when everyone knows you just killed and maimed hundreds and are looking to flee. Plans had to change.

When we say, "released photos", are we not talking about those same blurry-as-all-fuck store cam pictures? Or were there clearer photos and names released yesterday evening? I might have missed that, as I was busy doing other shit until late last ngiht. If we're talking about the blurry cam shots...they could have gotten away scott-free. Yesterday people looking at those photos couldn't even agree whether they were even white kids or not, much less easily identifying them in a busy airport terminal. I understand that nerves may have triggered them to become pre-emptively aggressive and irrational. I just don't know that they needed to be.

 

[Maninthemirror]

I hope they take him alive, if he winds up dead before capture that will only fuel the conspiracy theorists

 

[Crisco]

Also, for anyone who thinks what the police are doing is wrong or unlawful,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance_in_United_States_law

 

[Smiles and Cries]

damn McD commercial on ustream made me hungry to try those chicken wraps

 

[RyanReedyMusic]

Listening to this is surreal.

Completely agree

 

[tajd]

hoe so many people did they kill 3 people 2 cops ?

 

[Vire]

Here is the exact quote by the way:

"If the target, or the friend, leaves that building and attempts to enter that vehicle, or any vehicle, you are authorized by the FBI to stop them from entering that vehicle and take them into custody."

 

[Byakuya769]

The ustream I'm on has absolutely nothing going on. What are you all listening to?

 

[LyleLanley]

For those interested, both the Sox and Bruins games for tonight have been postponed.

 

[GillianSeed79]

Listening to this is surreal.

I'm surprised they haven't switched to a secure channel. Guy with an iPhone could be keeping track of everything they are saying.

 

[QP3]

Who could he be talking to? (assuming seen person is him.) Is there a 3rd accomplice?

 

[Jeels]

Yeah, I'd be disappointed if this ended with him being shot... I'd love to hear his reasoning and explanations.

Even someone fighting for Chechen independence shouldn't have any need to attack the US, the beef is with Russia.

These are deranged people.

 

[Phire Phox]

The ustream I'm on has absolutely nothing going on. What are you all listening to?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam

 

[Ovid]

Afaik do more conservative Muslims not drink alcohol? Don't know about smoking.

I guess his intention was to find out just 'how much' muslim they were

Exactly. But why is that even relevant at this point? There hasn't been any information out there that states they're Muslim extremists.

I guess because Chechnya has a large Muslim demographic and has rebels in it???

 

[mugurumakensei]

The crazy aunt is attractive. #justsayin

 

[WARP10CK]

Been sleeping for a few hours they get the bastard yet ?

 

[TommyT]

Even someone fighting for Chechen independence shouldn't have any need to attack the US, the beef is with Russia.

These are deranged people.

All the more reason I want to hear what they have to say.

 

[Catchpenny]

The reaction of the family members is disbelief, shock, and denial. They've been open about their history and immigration. These guys have spent most of their adult lives in the United States.

Seems to me they're just another immigrant family, and these crimes have nothing to do with their religion or heritage. It has nothing to do with extremists or foreign terrorism. It seems to me like it's a Columbine type situation with a couple of angry young assholes who lost it. Pressure cooker bombs? Robbing a 7/11? A couple of losers, nothing more.

Trying to spin this into evil foreign terrorism is sounding more and more ridiculous.

Pure speculation on my part, but I think someone got to Tamerlan during his trips back to Russia, recruited him into a terror group. He then indoctrinated the younger brother who looked up to him.

 

[Tamanon]

I'm pretty sure one of the cops is surveilling an FBI car now.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

hoe so many people did they kill 3 people 2 cops ?

please don't call me a hoe.

3 at the marathon, 1 cop last night, 1 cop in critical condition.

 

[gcubed]

When we say, "released photos", are we not talking about those same blurry-as-all-fuck store cam pictures? Or were there clearer photos and names released yesterday evening? I might have missed that, as I was busy doing other shit until late last ngiht. If we're talking about the blurry cam shots...they could have gotten away scott-free. Yesterday people looking at those photos couldn't even agree whether they were even white kids or not, much less easily identifying them in a busy airport terminal.

there were reports that the FBI had an ID on one of them before release that they were not 100% confident about (but i believe it was correct). Can't remember where i read it though... if that is true, they weren't going anywhere

 

[F!ReW!Re]

Summary:

Collection of live/audiostreams:
http://live.producermatthew.com/


Live streams:

4 streams;

http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1155606219001/
http://pix11.com/live/#axzz2QucNpQCg
http://boston.cbslocal.com/cbs-boston-live-stream/
http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

All Police scanner sites down: Found a new one:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam

Events since last night:

For those waking up here is the summary of what happened in Boston overnight. Attempted to rob 7-11, they killed an MIT police officer, hijacked a car, stole a police vehicle, threw explosives out of window during chase, got into firefights in neighborhood, one of them died from being shot to death by the cops and a bomb vest going off(suspect 1), and the other is hiding and there's supposedly bombs planted all over the place(suspect 2) .

timeline:

Suspect at large atm:

from: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-wanted-poster-for-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-2013-4

Summary:

Quote:
Better summary:

Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr: View Post
yes, they killed cops, got into firefights in neighborhoods, threw bombs from windows, stole police cars, one of them died from being shot to death by the cops and a bomb vest, and the other is hiding and there's supposedly bombs planted all over the place
Originally Posted by CNN's EmCeeGramr: View Post
also a naked man, his uncle, and a missing college student all turned into ghosts and rode away on horses to escape from LEOs
This was the DA statement and press conference earlier, may be off since I just jotted it down, but is generally what I heard across those sources:

Quote:
-something at MIT (Building 32? led to shooting of MIT cop (died))
-carjacking in cambridge, kept hostage for 30 minutes
-robbery attempt at 7-11
-another carjacking at some point (?)
-car chase (?), grenades thrown out, explosives maybe of some sort
-shootout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqo1Ad6spkY
-suspect #1 (black cap) dead
-suspect #2 (white cap) still on the loose

Also note that the first suspect was run over as #2 tried to escape. According to news sources now.

*WARNING EXTREMELY NSFW PICTURE OF SUSPECT 1 DECEASED*

http://i.imgur.com/0U0ozqt.jpg

*END WARNING*

No confirmation yet on this though...

Stray bullets from earlier firefight:

The bullet actually went through his chair.

REDDIT Thread:
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1coqwo/live_boston_update_thread_part_5/

Suspects uncle, interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqR2BbY5i8

More pictures:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...cher-says/4UeCClOVeLr8PHLvDa99zK/picture.html

Some photos from Watertown, MA.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...cher-says/4UeCClOVeLr8PHLvDa99zK/picture.html

From earlier this morning:

 

[CitizenCope]

For those interested, both the Sox and Bruins games for tonight have been postponed.

Bought tickets for the game tommorow. Sanjoro screwed.

 

[LycanXIII]

Ridiculous of CNN to call "BREAKING NEWS" everytime they're back from break... It screams of desperation to keep their viewers watching.

You mean "Police Search Watertown" and "Suspect #2 May Have Explosives" isn't breaking?

 

[OriginofHysteria]

vest had the initials F, B and I. Not sure what that means

Female body inspector

 

[The Lamonster]

The crazy aunt is attractive. #justsayin

her?

 

[tajd]

please don't call me a hoe.

3 at the marathon, 1 cop last night, 1 cop in critical condition.

typo i meant to say how many people did they kill 5 people ?

 

[Buba Big Guns]

It's hilarious, and predictable, seeing people trying to associate these guys as Russians and not Muslims.

As if these acts were done for glorious Mother Russia (most Chechens HATE Russia and want nothing to do with Russia) and not based on verses from the Quran.

It begins. Ugh

 

[bcl0328]

damn McD commercial on ustream made me hungry to try those chicken wraps

They are good.

 

[Catchpenny]

The crazy aunt is attractive. #justsayin

Imagine the sorority emails she would send.