Could be talking about smoking pot with his friends.
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Boston: One dead, one captured, city re-opened
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Could be talking about smoking pot with his friends.
What witch hunt? What are you even talking about? Has the dude's family actually been harassed? Have they even found this missing person?
What exactly harm have they cause besides making themselves looks foolish?
Not an expert, but I wouldn't think drones are useful in a situation like this -- picking people out of crowded areas -- but far more useful picking out people hiding in remote areas.
MagicWithEarvin
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Just watched the 9 minute video with be uncle answering questions. He is such a boss. Much respect to him for coming forward.
NintendoRev
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Perhaps they just can't grasp that their kids could do such horrific things.
ZanzibarBreeze
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I appreciate that. One thing from last night though: I still want to know what's up with that crazy old guy leaning against the railing and smirking. What kind of person sits back and "takes in the view" at a time like that? Run, old man. Run.
Even though, still, I feel this is more entertainment than actual news reporting.
Marty Chinn
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Hanz?
Liferebooted
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Wow, how the hell are these forced home searches legal?
vas_a_morir
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One of the Nationals you hear about so much on TV.
Two things combined:
- Guy is hiding out in a well thought-out spot where it would take a while to find him
- Cops are taking EVERYTHING seriously, anything suspicious is searched before proceeding
Lasthope106
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They were, by their own family no less.
You can chose not to comply if you want I guess. Seems like a dumb move with a crazy explosive toting 19 year old on the loose.
User 100115
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Honestly, to me, the old man looks to be grimacing/in shock. Not smiling and enjoying the sunshine as people seem to have gathered.
cicero
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Are you implying that there was some kind of legitimate rationale and logic to their actions? If so, what is it? Or is it really that you dislike someone relegating anything down to monochrome "evil" or "good", including terrorism?
This is how you inspire a score.
Exigent circumstance
Winterfang
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Really, never heard of that organization before, that case it's almost 10 years old, I've live in the Caribbean my entire life.
Valjean Lafitte
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...there are no words for this kind of black and white "terrorists and murderers are insane and evil" kind of world view. These are people who went wrong at some point and were religiously/ideologically motivated to kill a bunch of people at the Boston Marathon. They don't deserve anyone's sympathy, but at the same time, "insane" and "evil" are such ridiculous, sweeping generalizations for people who, despite one of them saying he had no American friends, apparently did have a few.
We're pretty sure that the fertilizer factory isn't going to explode again, nor is it going to slink down to Austin, shoot some cops along the way, and escape. One is an industrial accident, while the other is a living, breathing, still potentially dangerous person.
pulga
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Because they ask, and people consent. How the hell are people still asking this
BillRiccio
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They are asking the home owners before they enter.
SlowRevolution
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I'm shocked that this is still going on. Even when I go away for like five minutes I think it'll be over by the time I check again.
Liferebooted
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They already said if you don't answer or don't comply then they force their way in. Atleast thats what they said on CNN a few times now.
No. There was one fake one, in particular, (among a host of others that didn't get much attention) and the real one that people are discussing currently.
I think this is an ineffective defense, for the simple reason that there are probably some homes that aren't currently occupied by their owners but being searched anyway. Not being there, they obviously aren't giving consent.
Again, the more appropriate response is that this is a situation of hot pursuit, and it's a longstanding precedent that police may enter a home without a warrant during hot pursuit if they have reason to believe lives may be in danger. There's no constitutional violation, unless you want to quibble over the definition of "hot pursuit" -- but in this case, I think the definition would stand up.
Now, if the police were searching these houses, seizing evidence unrelated to the suspect being pursued, or making arrests based on that evidence, I would certainly mount strong objections to that. But as far as I know, there's no suggestion that that is happening. As long as they're entering houses specifically to find and arrest the armed and dangerous criminal they've been pursuing for the last several hours, I don't see a problem, and neither, I think, would the Supreme Court.
They aren't, most people are volunteering.
The early ones were forced entries when they thought he was hiding in a garage this morning.
I don't see how that connection is made (I don't have Twitter so I can't make out who is talking to whom, lol) but I'll just take your word for it.
NintendoRev
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Would you really deny the cops to search your home if there was a suspected terrorist in the area? REALLY?
AranhaHunter
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I don't usually get emotional with images, but this one got a reaction out of me for whatever reason.
I wonder how far in advance this was planned. If we assume his brother went overseas for training or something to pull it off, I wonder if the Boston Marathon was a target from the start, or if that came up at some point in the first half of last year. Then I wonder how far in advance #2 knew about it as well, if only to see if you could connect anything he posted online to it as well.
It is so crazy how, with all the man power and video and stuff we have, that someone can be on the run for this long (assuming he isn't dead). I can understand it when a city is active and that sort of thing, but not when everything is essentially shut down like it is here. Has this ever happened on this scale ever before?
It is so crazy how, with all the man power and video and stuff we have, that someone can be on the run for this long (assuming he isn't dead). I can understand it when a city is active and that sort of thing, but not when everything is essentially shut down like it is here. Has this ever happened on this scale ever before?
Roddslayer
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My guess is the Patriot Act? http://www.aclu.org/national-security/surveillance-under-usa-patriot-act
They are voluntarily let into the homes.
Byakuya769
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False equivalency man! Your cape with FE stitched on it is in the mail.
once you cross a particular line, a lot of those shades of grey actually do become black and white.
They are really different situations, though.
The Unabomber killed only 3 people over several years. If the cops had had an inkling of who he was, they would have rushed to him but that didn't happen; his search and capture was a slow process because they didn't really know where the guy was. He had been stranged from his brother for years, who was the guy who gave the key clues for his capture.
The Atlanta bomber remained on the run for years and was captured by a regular officer by almost coincidence, cause, again, they didn't know who the bomber was.
It is silly to suggest that the law wouldn't have reacted if they knew either of these criminals were in the middle of a city, armed and desperate.
PairOfFilthySocks
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Is it confirmed they are forced?
It's so weird reading these. We're fairly certain this is him, right? Hard to credit these relatively normal-sounding comments to a psychopath.
Although there are some that are foreboding in hindsight.
Except unrelated evidence of unrelated crimes found during a search under the idea of hot pursuit is admissible isn't it?
Jest Chillin
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Well I meant more due to the sheer amount of glass in an urban setting playing havok with details but I suppose you're talking more about tracking movements rather than searching for someone ducked out hiding.
Any decent human being would co-operate with the law enforcement. Unless of course, you have something to hide.
They are knocking on doors and identifying themselves as police officers. So far I think everyone has let them in.
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