There have been multiple indications that these two had far more money (in cash) than they reasonably should have, including very nice cars and clothing.
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There have been multiple indications that these two had far more money (in cash) than they reasonably should have, including very nice cars and clothing.
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They probably wouldn't have time for coffee, but I get what you're saying, heh
Let em do their job, pass em a couple of bottled waters, and thank them for a job well done. What's all this fucking fuss about YOU'RE NEVER COMING IN MY HOUSE
nicoga3000
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So they didn't rob the 7-11? Or did they? And have they reached out to Suspect #1's wife?
There's a difference between contacting the FBI with a lead and hiveminding towards an incorrect conclusion and then directly involving the family of that person via accusations and threats.
going off this tangent of invalid searches and such, I wonder if there's some sort of protection against anything the searching parties see in your house, against you.
I imagine there's been quite a few toilet flushes in Watertown.
Topic's gonna need to open a OT2 by nightfall.
I imagine there's been quite a few toilet flushes in Watertown.
Topic's gonna need to open a OT2 by nightfall.
embarrassing from such a big network. Their coverage has been so bad through all of this.
I don't doubt that.
TV says they're about halfway done searching the area and will continue throughout the weekend.
Maninthemirror
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Boston pd said they didnt
If you willingly allow officers into your home, your forego your Fourth Amendment rights. The discussion is in regards to individuals that refuse.
smokeandmirrors
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Get off your high horse.
None of it would be admissible in court. And I doubt they care about anyhting other than catching this guy.
jim-jam bongs
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Unless they're stressed and want to kick back in between searches.
SirButterstick
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How would you act if this affected your family personally? Would you be a true Patriot(tm) and deny them entry? LOL I'd bet you'd be the first one to call/help the cops if it did.
I smell bullshit, tough-guy internet syndrome.
I would think they would have the right to force search a home looking specifically for the suspect only. It would be exigent circumstances.
It wouldn't fall under hot pursuit because once you lose sight of the suspect, it becomes fresh pursuit, and under fresh pursuit rules you can't go into a hone without permission or a warrant.
Even though the exigent circumstances is a bit of a stretch, I'm sure this is spelled out under the Patriot Act for domestic terrorism.
Its not like they give a shit about your dime bag laying on your coffee table, they have something a little more important going on at the moment.
It wouldn't fall under hot pursuit because once you lose sight of the suspect, it becomes fresh pursuit, and under fresh pursuit rules you can't go into a hone without permission or a warrant.
Even though the exigent circumstances is a bit of a stretch, I'm sure this is spelled out under the Patriot Act for domestic terrorism.
Its not like they give a shit about your dime bag laying on your coffee table, they have something a little more important going on at the moment.
They highjacked a car at the 7-11.
Ace Harding
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I've stopped checking streams everytime there's some "heightened activity." This has happened like 100 times with no results.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS KID
HerbertFish
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Talk about your false equivalents
Dude what happened when I went to sleep around 10am? They had him held up in the house, with a rocket in the basement I thought? Still nothing? Is the kid on the lose or in that house?
FLAWLESS
The mechanic said that the suspect was biting his finger nails (something that he has never seen him do) and was acting nervously (for obvious reasons).
He insisted that he needed his car immediately which surprised the mechanic, considering that he wasn't finished working on the car
He insisted that he needed his car immediately which surprised the mechanic, considering that he wasn't finished working on the car
Sorry- I wasn't criticizing your point, just the words you chose to make it. That is, a crisis doesn't mean you should "stop caring" about your rights.
Maninthemirror
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From what i read they fueled up at 7-11
Winterfang
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They aren't forcing themselves into your house. Of course if you don't want them to enter the house, they will be forced to get a warrant. And just lose time and resources.
Devolution
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Hah.
But seriously they're looking for a dude which means any searches of like your medicine cabinet are a waste of time and energy.
If they're operating under the hot pursuit exception they won't ask. If they ask, you can refuse. Has anyone refused?
they would not be allowed to arrest you or take evidence that is unrelated to the reason they entered the house. Any tangential arrest / evidence would be tossed in seconds from any court system
GazzaScotland
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Scanner: Some sort of note found.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Rookie Move you tape it to the lid.
BloodMoney
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freenudemacusers
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why are we having a long protracted argument over hypothetical rights violations at this moment in time? christ.
ZanzibarBreeze
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This thread had nicer people in it during the AM hours.
I know! What happened, right? I liked the guys we were hanging with then.
If you allow the officers into your residence or if they obtain a warrant, they can arrest you for anything in plain sight. Doubt that's happening, but this "refuse and we get a warrant for a vague address" is a mockery of the Fourth.
Maninthemirror
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Intelligence: no ties to al qaeda or any of its affiliated groups
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Dude is still missing in action.
So which trumps liberty: Bombs? Dead cops? What specifically is your test case here?
More like holding back so they don't fuck up again.
This thread had nicer people in it during the AM hours.
Don't worry. Soon the PM stalkers will leave
Warm Machine
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If the cops went in and searched someones home and they found a small scale grow-op I don't think they would even give a shit right now. Besides I don't think it would even hold up in court. They are looking for a specific person and that is likely all they can legally achieve.
darkazcura
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This thread had nicer people in it during the AM hours.
That's what I mentioned earlier. Ugh. People calm down with the search stuff. The police are doing a great job here.
This is a good point, but at this point I really do feel like we're getting into civil liberties danger here. Obviously there must be a limit to the use of hot pursuit, and it strikes me that charging you with a crime based on evidence seized during hot pursuit of a suspect who isn't you, doesn't live in the building in question, and may in fact never have been in that building seems past that limit. Note that Warden v. Haydn uses the phrase "particular apprehension or conviction," suggesting that the evidence seized should be pertinent to the particular suspect under pursuit. Exigent circumstances are still a matter of individual judgement, after all.
IHaveCandy
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Guys, this isn't Martial Law. Your rights are still in tact. You should have e dry right to refuse police searches on your private home if that is how you feel and you have no reason to be suspected or have a warrant. I'd certainly encourage people to help the police by complying as much as you are comfortable with, but rights still give you that option. The acts of the few shouldn't destroy the rights of the many.
you know how it be in here, some people gotta argue cuz they feel they can't do anything else
Devolution
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There's always an argument over something that isn't the subject at hand but yeah the civil rights argument could merit its own thread.
BruceLeeRoy
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