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Boston: One dead, one captured, city re-opened

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Godslay said:
Why run? Turn your brother in. Don't be stupid and follow in his footsteps. That's what I would do. Hell I had that much sense at 19, probably long before that even.
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Yes, he could have done that and gotten away with a better sentencing, but he was probably a scared 19 year old with his brother telling him its too late, we gotta run, do more, or what have you. No doubt this kid will get a steep sentencing, but I dunno...there is a lot of reasons he wouldn't just turn his brother in (not that that means his sentencing should be less because of this) if he was scared.
 
darkazcura said:
So what happens if this kid didn't shoot the MIT cop, this kid was indeed brainwashed and misled by his brother and was scared shitless the last 18 hours? I don't think this kid will get the death penalty like some are hoping or expecting. Probably life in prison, but what do I know.. There is a lot to this story we don't know but so far...

From all accounts he seemed like a normal, well adjusted kid going to college. Some of his tweets would lead me to believe he's pretty far from being any kind of extremist. Now think of Monday? His brother actually tried to be disguised with the sunglasses and hat actually front facing. This kid went out in the middle of the marathon with his hate backwards and eyes wide open. Now we can kinda see there is a possibility he just straight up gave up and had no suicidal explosives strapped to himself like his brother. I'm not trying to be an Internet detective or what have you. I just think there's a lot more to this particular brother than what we've seen at face value.

It's all very interesting...I hope we get answers :/
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I think there's a pretty good chance he doesn't get the death penalty. He'll be told to give up all the information he has in return for the death penalty being taken off the table. It's the only real leverage we have to get him to talk.
 
iamblades said:
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Umm..

What is that playing on the TV there?

lol
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God damn, I bet the nearly crush his wewe when the cops called the door.
 
Lasthope106 said:
I can't imagine the conflicting of emotions that the people who are treating him must be having. They surely must want him to not save his life, and yet keeping him alive is the most valuable thing to do.
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The emotions would definitely be there - especially if you were tied to an event personally. But in the end, a doctor has volunteered to care for people without bias, regardless of what they have done or will do.

Vire said:
Don't worry, we'll keep him alive long enough to have him tell us everything we need and then we'll sentence him to the death penalty.

America.
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But this, ultimately.
 
darkazcura said:
Yes, he could have done that and gotten away with a better sentencing, but he was probably a scared 19 year old with his brother telling him its too late, we gotta run, do more, or what have you. No doubt this kid will get a steep sentencing, but I dunno...there is a lot of reasons he wouldn't just turn his brother in (not that that means his sentencing should be less because of this) if he was scared.
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His actions are inexcusable and I feel absolutely no sympathy for him, nor will I ever.
 
Lasthope106 said:
I can't imagine the conflicting of emotions that the people who are treating him must be having. They surely must want him to not save his life, and yet keeping him alive is the most valuable thing to do.
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Don't worry, we'll keep him alive long enough to have him tell us everything we need and then we'll sentence him to the death penalty.

America.
 
darkazcura said:
Yes, he could have done that and gotten away with a better sentencing, but he was probably a scared 19 year old with his brother telling him its too late, we gotta run, do more, or what have you. No doubt this kid will get a steep sentencing, but I dunno...there is a lot of reasons he wouldn't just turn his brother in (not that that means his sentencing should be less because of this) if he was scared.
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True. I can't follow down that path tho, he had/dropped the backpack, he continued to fight/flee even after his brother was killed. Impossible to justify.
 
This is my theory of what happened during the shootout. I know it's probably been put out there. I think the older brother instructed the younger one to step out of the car, since he had a vest. I believe they were planning to shoot it out and then he would blow themselves up. The younger one probably wasn't ready to die yet, so immediately he stepped out, he backed the car over him and drove away.
 
Mihael Mello Keehl said:
Im sorry there is no justification of his actions.
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I'm not justifying shit. I'm just saying he could have done a hell of a lot less than what people here are accusing him of and asking what that means in the long run (if he indeed did do less). I just don't like that people are all uppity about putting the death penalty on him right now. ::shrugs::
 
suaveric said:
I think there's a pretty good chance he doesn't get the death penalty. He'll be told to give up all the information he has in return for the death penalty being taken off the table. It's the only real leverage we have to get him to talk.
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I don't understand this death penalty thinking.

Death penalty for a 19 year old is too easy an out from this whole thing.

Let him be thrown to the wolves in prison for the rest of his life and live and die between concrete walls.

He'll have a good 40-50 years to languish.
 
Godslay said:
Why run? Turn your brother in. Don't be stupid and follow in his footsteps. That's what I would do. Hell I had that much sense at 19, probably long before that even.
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Depends on how much you respect your brother's opinions. I have 2 of them and I'd be lying if I said that they haven't had a fairly significant influence on me and my decisions in life. Some were pretty damned important.
 
Winterfang said:
Denial isn't a crime, unless they specifically helped the suspect then I don't see why they have to be punished.



A negotiator talk him into surrendering.
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I don't have any background on visas, but if you are being welcomed into this nation as a guest and your uncooperative nature directly leads to additional preventable deaths, I wouldn't be taken aback when you are told to leave. Heck, let's say you knew the precise location of these two clowns but didn't want to give them up so you caused an entire city to be shut down for a day unnecessarily, it's probably time to go.

None of this is the situation here, but I kind of thought it was from a post made.
 
darkazcura said:
Yes, he could have done that and gotten away with a better sentencing, but he was probably a scared 19 year old with his brother telling him its too late, we gotta run, do more, or what have you. No doubt this kid will get a steep sentencing, but I dunno...there is a lot of reasons he wouldn't just turn his brother in (not that that means his sentencing should be less because of this) if he was scared.
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Possibly, but if you are innocent and don't want to go down in flames then you do the right thing even if it is your big bro.

Besides that, there were two bombs, two bags. The older brother was carrying one, he was carrying the other. He's not innocent, and even if his brother influenced him, it was ultimately HIS choice to go through with it. Choices have consequences.
 
giga said:
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This shot and the shot of him on the ground depresses me. He still looks very much like a child and it's sombering to see the accumulation of terrible decisions by him leading up to this shot.

I hope we find out what pushed him and his brother to commit these heinous crimes.
 
Godslay said:
Possibly, but if you are innocent and don't want to go down in flames then you do the right thing even if it is your big bro.

Besides that, there were two bombs, two bags. The older brother was carrying one, he was carrying the other. He's not innocent, and even if his brother influenced him, it was ultimately HIS choice to go through with it. Choices have consequences.
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"I've started the timer on the bomb. Plant it or be blown up yourself."
 
CharlieDigital said:
I don't understand this death penalty thinking.

Death penalty for a 19 year old is too easy an out from this whole thing.

Let him be thrown to the wolves in prison for the rest of his life and live and die between concrete walls.

He'll have a good 40-50 years to languish.
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Yeah, if you've ever read anything about the federal supermax that they sent the underwear bomber to, you'd take the death penalty too.
 
darkazcura said:
I'm not justifying shit. I'm just saying he could have done a hell of a lot less than what people here are accusing him of and asking what that means in the long run (if he indeed did do less). I just don't like that people are all uppity about putting the death penalty on him right now. ::shrugs::
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Im not sure what your doing then. Its either is or not. How can you say what he could have done when we have full blown facts of what he has done. Why run over your own dead brother just to escape the police? Turn yourself in. The law will take effect accordingly its not like we can control it these are the set rules and it what you must follow. If they put the death penalty on him then so be it.
 
Godslay said:
Possibly, but if you are innocent and don't want to go down in flames then you do the right thing even if it is your big bro.

Besides that, there were two bombs, two bags. The older brother was carrying one, he was carrying the other. He's not innocent, and even if his brother influenced him, it was ultimately HIS choice to go through with it. Choices have consequences.
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Yeah I recognize this. It would take a giant leap of faith for me to believe (or anyone) that he didn't know there was a bomb in the bag. That would be an interesting twist, though. At this point I'm mainly thinking of how much or how little he has done the last night or two.

I guess I'm having trouble swallowing that someone so "normal" could do this. It's hard.
 
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