XANDER CAGE
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Driver is basically bumper cars, though. Everything feels glued to the road and crashes have no impact.
Grand Theft Auto IV has the best driving physics of any open-world game, ever
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Driver is basically bumper cars, though. Everything feels glued to the road and crashes have no impact.
Well not really.
I think Max Payne 3 had a good balance of weight and controllability, when it comes to euphoria characters.
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Yeah, I enjoyed the physics too. I played a lot of the racing multiplayer mode. The helicopter handling was ok as well. I became a specialist at getting the black hawk up to stupid speeds and then ramming other players vehicles in freeroam. Sometimes they just disappeared over the horizon.
Willy Wanka
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I complete agree with you OP. I loved the way the cars handled in GTAIV and I'll be hugely disappointed if they bow to the whining and go back to the driving model of the older games. A refined version of GTAIV's driving physics with more spectacular crashes would be perfect for me.
XANDER CAGE
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Yeah. Red Dead controlled okay, but Max Payne is where they really nailed the balance between tight control vs. realistic physics. I would love to play a GTA game with that level of control.
Ploid 3.0
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One day I decided to embrace the immersion factor of GTA4's driving, and it actually worked well. Though I got tired of riding with NPCs and just went back to trying to have some fun.
http://youtu.be/COHbPaAm5bY
For people that are into immersion with GTA4, they should really try modding it until it's some Titanic Crysis mod type of authentic. You can have traffic jams with a mod that adds realistic traffic, also there's a mod that puts the correct types of cars in the game. What I mean by that is that you'd see a lot more taxis than normal cars. Some of the traffic jams are littered with yellow cars. Reminds me of New York.
Also you really notice the way the car seem to float when you drive in first person. The interior goes crazy with the leaning and shifting.
http://youtu.be/COHbPaAm5bY
For people that are into immersion with GTA4, they should really try modding it until it's some Titanic Crysis mod type of authentic. You can have traffic jams with a mod that adds realistic traffic, also there's a mod that puts the correct types of cars in the game. What I mean by that is that you'd see a lot more taxis than normal cars. Some of the traffic jams are littered with yellow cars. Reminds me of New York.
Also you really notice the way the car seem to float when you drive in first person. The interior goes crazy with the leaning and shifting.
Ploid 3.0
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Wow I can't believe this GTA mod is on Xbox, and it looks awesome!
http://youtu.be/8p-fsaOkCxA
http://youtu.be/8p-fsaOkCxA
Angry Fork
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I agree OP, I loved the driving once I got used to it, car chases were so exhilarating. I went back to San Andreas and the driving was awful, so cartoony and cheap with instant turn. I hated it.
Huh, didn't realize the community was so split about this. I personally didn't like the driving of GTAIV but I hope they come to some kind of compromise. Something where the cars still have weight but are more fun to drive around in. Motorcycles sucked, though not as bad in the expansion. I'd be happy if it was anything like Midnight Club LA
lostsupper
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I'm with you, OP.
I loved Sleepy Dogs despite the driving.
I loved Sleepy Dogs despite the driving.
ArachosiA 78
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I love the driving physics in GTA4, and agree they're better than those of any other open world game. Now, if only Rockstar could figure out how to make the on-foot controls as satisfying...
reptilescorpio
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Hated the driving/riding in GTA4. Loved it in Sleepy Dogs. Loved it in San Andreas. Would love to see them move in that direction again.
Ploid 3.0
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Someone mentioned that games like Just Cause 2, and Saints Row 3 got away with their car handling. For Just Cause 2, driving was the inferior mode of transportation. You had a superman like parachute and grapple, why ride when you can fly. Saints Row didn't have the grapple + parachute transportation system, but it had some nice jet bikes, GTA:SA like harrier jet craft, and air gliding.
There's some good air fun to be had in those games, more so with JC2. Sleeping dogs have 0 airplay though
, and I like Sleeping dogs cars, those buggers can speed all over the city. The cars in Sleeping Dogs feel a bit twitchy though. GTA4's airplay is in a helicopter, jump out and you pretty much fall as a rock, no Wesley Snipes Drop Zone like bullet gliding, no squirrel suit flying (JC2), just fetal position falling. JC2 is king of the air, and it's a beautiful fun thing.
There's some good air fun to be had in those games, more so with JC2. Sleeping dogs have 0 airplay though
, and I like Sleeping dogs cars, those buggers can speed all over the city. The cars in Sleeping Dogs feel a bit twitchy though. GTA4's airplay is in a helicopter, jump out and you pretty much fall as a rock, no Wesley Snipes Drop Zone like bullet gliding, no squirrel suit flying (JC2), just fetal position falling. JC2 is king of the air, and it's a beautiful fun thing.Realistic driving isn't fun for some gamers. Me included. Driving should feel like video game driving. It should be easy and responsive.
Or maybe we just think Grand Theft Auto shouldn't be a simulator because simulators aren't fun. If GTA continues trying to be "realistic" I won't be buying any more of the games. Save that shit for games like Gran Turismo.
Yup. I was SO mad when I tried driving. And I still am. They RUINED Grand Theft Auto. Just isn't the same without the responsive driving of the PS2 games.
If I have to take a cab that ruins the purpose of it being open world and thus ruins the game as a whole. The game was terrible because of the driving mechanics. The game was literally a piece of shit.
Grand Theft Auto isn't supposed to be like driving in real life. What made driving fun in the PS2 GTA games was that you COULD turn on a dime and the controls felt great and responsive while driving. Non responsive controls are bad controls in my book.
Grand Theft Auto is a video game. It should play like one. It's not a simulator and ridiculous people would ever want the driving to be anything like one.
Green Yoshi
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Yeah, I liked the physics also a lot although it was kind of confusing in the beginning to rotate the camera in curves with the second stick.
MrCookiepants
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What it looks like you're saying to me is that you like bad controls and that actual good games like San Andreas or Vice City make you gag. Okay.
People saying it plays like a simulator are off the mark a little. The game is very forgiving and you all you have to do is slow down a bit for corners. Corner coming up - hit the brake for a second or two. It's not rocket science. The hardest part is correcting a skid before it gets out of control but that doesn't take long to learn. Even when you crash a lot it's hard to destroy the car you're driving and the AI rarely kills you if you fuck up.
The game is what it is - many people like the driving in it. Banshee's are awesome, as are a lot of the sports cars. Some cars are utter crap - it adds to the mayhem if you jack something that's hard to control at high speed. I suck at video games and driving simulators but I can manage to get a grip of the controls.
The on foot controls are another story - took me 30 seconds to get onto a ladder today.
Buckethead
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I don't get the "you just suck at it" response.
Firstly, no. Those types of responses are a childish attempt to marginalized someone without examining their criticism.
I've driven SUVs and they don't flip over going around the corner at 35MPH nor do cars frequently fishtail without adverse elements.
I'm all fine for locking turn radiuses, scaling back abilities to gas around corners, etc. but they even did that too much.
Secondly, if Rockstar wanted super realistic driving controls/physics, okay, but it's a massive oversight on their part not offering a perfect handling cheat.
Not everyone plays GTA the same way and boxing your fans in is a poor decision from a business perspective. People used those cheats back in the III era when driving was cake and the roads were wider and more empty, of course they'll want them in a narrower, more congested NYC-clone.
Lastly, they hold your hand for practically everything else in the game but they don't tell you how to control the cars either through the standard pop-ups or a SA-esque driving school. Poor game design. If people suck at it, it's R*'s fault not giving them the tools to succeed.
Firstly, no. Those types of responses are a childish attempt to marginalized someone without examining their criticism.
I've driven SUVs and they don't flip over going around the corner at 35MPH nor do cars frequently fishtail without adverse elements.
I'm all fine for locking turn radiuses, scaling back abilities to gas around corners, etc. but they even did that too much.
Secondly, if Rockstar wanted super realistic driving controls/physics, okay, but it's a massive oversight on their part not offering a perfect handling cheat.
Not everyone plays GTA the same way and boxing your fans in is a poor decision from a business perspective. People used those cheats back in the III era when driving was cake and the roads were wider and more empty, of course they'll want them in a narrower, more congested NYC-clone.
Lastly, they hold your hand for practically everything else in the game but they don't tell you how to control the cars either through the standard pop-ups or a SA-esque driving school. Poor game design. If people suck at it, it's R*'s fault not giving them the tools to succeed.
"you just suck at it" is the appropriate response when the criticism is "GTAIV has realistic driving controls"...
when that is your opening gambit, the only way is down I'm afraid
SimpleGamer
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Huh? Oh excuse me, what?
Tricky I Shadow
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Definitely agree with the OP. The driving physics are great. Most other open world games are too stiff when it comes to cars.
By the way...I hope all the people that were disappointed in IV arent too hyped for V. Me thinks its going to be very similar.
By the way...I hope all the people that were disappointed in IV arent too hyped for V. Me thinks its going to be very similar.
LightofRohan
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I agree and Little Big Planet had the best platformer controls!
I actually liked LBP controls 
I would be surprised if it wasn't similar, Rockstar has been seemingly incompetent this gen.
Basketball
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But I would like to add that GTA4's driving along with Mafia 2 are on top of open world driving gameplay
The physics, the damage, the detail
Not gonna lie I learned how to parallel park from GTA 4
Also no other game gives pedestrians so much weight when hitting them...That vibration and the damage to your car after hitting someone god damn it is so satifying (you also go on rampages too) what other game gives you that
I mean in saints row they feel like plastic bags,
The driving in Saints row is horrendous. Sleeping Dogs is alright but it feels a bit too arcady (Yeah I liked the realism in GTA 4). I took me a while to get into saints row after playing GTA 4 for many years because the driving was so shitty.
The accidents in GTA are brutal, the blur you get when driving top speed running away from the cops , just one wrong move and you crash....When you master it the driving is amazing.
Like another person said there is no other open world game where you just want to driving around the city
Have faith in Rockstar they know what to do, they won't dumb it down
The physics, the damage, the detail
Not gonna lie I learned how to parallel park from GTA 4
Also no other game gives pedestrians so much weight when hitting them...That vibration and the damage to your car after hitting someone god damn it is so satifying (you also go on rampages too) what other game gives you that
I mean in saints row they feel like plastic bags,
The driving in Saints row is horrendous. Sleeping Dogs is alright but it feels a bit too arcady (Yeah I liked the realism in GTA 4). I took me a while to get into saints row after playing GTA 4 for many years because the driving was so shitty.
The accidents in GTA are brutal, the blur you get when driving top speed running away from the cops , just one wrong move and you crash....When you master it the driving is amazing.
Like another person said there is no other open world game where you just want to driving around the city
Have faith in Rockstar they know what to do, they won't dumb it down
Driving in Sleeping Dogs feels cheap and awful. GTA IV hood cam in the Porsche or Ferrari is about as good as it gets.
ArchedThunder
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Why would you like driving a brick?
They've put out one of the highest rating and selling games, made two very sizable pieces of DC for it and half the gaming world is waiting on their next reveal. They scream incompetence.
Personally, I didn't like IV but I love TBOGT I think it's got the right balance of fun and realism and I believe that's where V is going. They said they're going to tweak the driving a bit in V - getting the guys from Midnight Club to help out so it's going to be a little tighter for your tastes.
That bar is so low not even Hermes can limbo under it...
I'm wondering how many of us that - and I quote daviyoung - "just suck at it" (although I personally still got the awful awful platinum of IV) won't be buying GTA V.
I mean people don't even have to not buy it because of the horrible driving.
People may also not buy it because of the horrible missions in IV.
The horrible shooting.
The horrible story.
The horrible phone calls every few minutes.
The horrible characters.
The horrible framerate on PS3.
The horrible pigeons, that created 4 or 5 stars or something like that when you shot them and were also a pain to find even with a guide.
The horrible racing missions with the horrible AI that you still won even if you crashed everywhere just because the AI drove even worse than you.
Or the horrible controls everywhere else. Niko controlled as if he was on the moon.
I remember even some of the unique stunts being a pain in the ass. I mean I fully remember one stunt in particular where I had a bike and just had to go full speed on a ramp. Didn't work so many times, because there was a tiny height difference right before it. Which meant my bike got hung up on it several times and acted like crazy. I'm sorry realism folks. But that's not how bikes handle. Not at all. They don't act upon some 2cm height difference. Blame it on some "bug", but if such "realistic physics" create such bugs, I totally blame those. And you don't even have to blame the physics - blame the world design. Who in their right mind put that there AND also put a unique stunt right after it. I don't even remember how I exactly beat it in the end. I guess I had luck at one point and the "realistic physics" let me through.
LightofRohan
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I'd almost agree with you if RDR wasn't one of the (if not THE) best game of the generation!
That's how driving in the Saints Rows games feels to me. In the GTA games you can do more precise driving if you know how to handle the cars, imo.
Maybe thats because we dont WANT to. And certainly not in a GTA game.
I can understand someone who loves to thus loves the GTA4 driving physics, just dont pretend to not understand
why some others dont.