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Norcal Regionals 2013 | Road to EVO 2013 Fighting Game Tournament | April 26-28

In the end no matter the circumstances SeniorTaxi had a great night he beat Chris G and sent him to losers weather it was the PS3 or not he did it 3 times.
 
I brought up the PS3 issue because I hate playing on PS3 as a Street Fighter player, and I know it's even worse for Marvel players.
 
What did he say to David?

basically the same thing minus a derogatory word. Ultradavid just changed one word of Chris G twitter messages and Chris G got butthurt about it. When Ultradavid said it was all in jest Chris G basically "nope fuck you" despite ultradavid saying he wants to talk it out and shake hands in person at Civil War.
 
Max can you do a video explaining PS3 problems with Marvel? I know about controller lag but I heard that PS3 versions slows down and drops frames.

This might be a good call, cutting out all the drama related issues and talking about the best console to play modern fighters on.

But briefly, the MVC3 engine is built on NTFramework which is primary PC/windows based. I believe every title released under NTFramework or NTframework 2 on both PS3 and 360 have run better graphically and framerate wise on 360. Literally, the more polys and textures on the screen, the more issues you might have with framedrops...especially with consoles overheating.

Also, playing marvel in 1080p is completely unnecessary. The game was created with 720p being the graphical limit. Converting the games natural 720p to 1080p adds post processing either by the system itself or the television it's being played on to render more pixels...and it will hardly look any better.
 
So ... about fighting games...

I apologize. I saw the gears turning, knew exactly where the thread would go (and the arguments....predictable as hell) and promised myself I wouldn't join in (I had about 4 posts typed up but just closed the tab instead of submitting)

Couldn't help myself in the end though...accusing people of very heinous and serious things to satisfy petty personal vendettas is just a bit of an irritant of mine, and it happens WAY too often on this forum.

But i'm done.

Smash finals was hype as hell, AE was great. Cant wait for tomorrow.
 
I remember when I asked Koogy why he didn't sign Chris G, and he said it was the attitude.
It all makes sense now.

Chris G's a dumb shit.
*rips Team Chris poster*

Apologyman is my new lord and savior

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I don’t hate you, Chris G. I don’t even dislike you. I do like you. I like you a hell of a lot more than I like most people in the FGC.

I hate this idea that you’re the best. Because you’re not. Champ's the best. Champ is the best in the world. There’s one thing you’re better at than Champ is and that’s whining on Twitter.

You’re as good as whining on twitter as Ricky Ortiz was. I don’t know if you’re as good as Justin though. He’s a pretty good whiner. Always was and still is.

Whoops! I’m killing e-sports.
 
This might be a good call, cutting out all the drama related issues and talking about the best console to play modern fighters on.

But briefly, the MVC3 engine is built on NTFramework which is primary PC/windows based. I believe every title released under NTFramework or NTframework 2 on both PS3 and 360 have run better graphically and framerate wise on 360. Literally, the more polys and textures on the screen, the more issues you might have with framedrops...especially with consoles overheating.

Also, playing marvel in 1080p is completely unnecessary. The game was created with 720p being the graphical limit. Converting the games natural 720p to 1080p adds post processing either by the system itself or the television it's being played on to render more pixels...and it will hardly look any better.

MTFramework 2 games of note are Marvel, Dragon's Dogma and RE6. In all three cases due to the frame buffer implementation, the 360 versions maintain a more steady frame rate at the expense of some screen tearing.

It's a design choice which unfortunately isn't a good one for a fighting game at the highest level.

Given mythical patches are all the rage, would players accept a PS3 patch that fixed the frame rate but made it tear? I'd say depending on where the tearing happens, probably yes.
 
MTFramework 2 games of note are Marvel, Dragon's Dogma and RE6. In all three cases due to the frame buffer implementation, the 360 versions maintain a more steady frame rate at the expense of some screen tearing.

It's a design choice which unfortunately isn't a good one for a fighting game at the highest level.

Given mythical patches are all the rage, would players accept a PS3 patch that fixed the frame rate but made it tear? I'd say depending on where the tearing happens, probably yes.

Makes sense, but I didn't know about the tearing issue. At least with screen tearing in a fighting game, it shouldn't be as obvious an issue unlike other titles like RE6 or LP2 where the entire background image is rapidly changing. Lot of the time, the processed image of a fighting game is mostly a static background, with the eventual camera zoom for cinematic effect and is probably where most of the tearing happens. Is that a fair assumption or am I off?
 
Makes sense, but I didn't know about the tearing issue. At least with screen tearing in a fighting game, it shouldn't be as obvious an issue unlike other titles like RE6 or LP2 where the entire background image is rapidly changing. Lot of the time, the processed image of a fighting game is mostly a static background, with the eventual camera zoom for cinematic effect and is probably where most of the tearing happens. Is that a fair assumption or am I off?

Yeah you wouldn't expect it to be too bad at all outside of perhaps cinematic moves where it doesn't really matter.

I wonder when they are doing the SF4 2013 patch if they could throw in an option to control v-sync or perhaps even a "turn all background effects" toggle for tournaments (as per I think the static backgrounds in the 3DS port?). Might help with the PS3 versions moving forwards.
 
http://ps360.ldblog.jp/archives/51702282.html

http://ps360.ldblog.jp/archives/51703090.html

These two pages probably go more into depth about frames for MVC3 than anywhere else. Unfortunately, I can't find an update for UMVC3.

Interesting. The biggest shock is the 15% tearing on the 360 version, however I hardly ever see tearing while playing the game personally. On the opposite end, the PS3 version is under the 360 by about 8 or so FPS every second. However, the human eye has a real hard time discerning anything between 45-60 fps as being visually different.

Probably the big issue between the two is the controller lag, which was also present in the PS3 version of SF4 and was equal to about 1 frame extra of delay. Almost positive the MVC engine suffers from this as well on PS3 from personal experience. Add on the PS3 slims not performing well under longer playtimes and tendency to overheat...and you kind of have a much greater chance of weird things happening from how players might be accustomed to playing on xbox.
 
Speaking of the n word. I saw Django Unchained finally. Great movie! Finally watched a good movie in the last 20 or so movies I watched.
And Chris G. Bad man. Me thinks he's been hanging around EVO hating people too much lately. Now. It's okay to whine and have your own opinions. But not at the expense of others. The real victim here is Taxi guy. He made his way to a tournament hoping to test his skills against great players and do well. He beats the best player in Marvel right now. And what does he get? He did not deserve that. He won fair and square and to discredit him like that while insulting him as well is despicable and just another bad look for the FGC. You are going to have big name people watching these streams now and then, they are going to look at this and wonder why they should bother with a community that has top players, who are supposed to set examples, acting like this. All it can take is one person to ruin everything for everyone.
 
Smh at that ChrisG twitter feed, guy has some serious anger management issues. When you whine like a little kid and disrespect your opponent you should expect people to call you out or poke fun at you. He really comes off as a whiny asshole.

And that's coming from someone who enjoys his Morrigan play more than the typical rushdown Marvel.

Talking about games, the Devil Trigger vs Devil Trigger moment was just too hype.
 
whoa... what happened?

i had to step out for a couple of hours.

chrisg lost to some guy named senortaxi, got really salty on twitter, got called out by mrwizard, and then got banned from evo?

?!?!?!
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i used to love chrisg
 
I went to sleep right a couple of matches after Marvel started up again late last night WHAT IN THE FUCKING SHIT HAPPENED

yep this happened to me too. Marvel started so freaking late that i just went so sleep and twitter was blowing up cause of drama. So i recon chris g lost and was throwing the option select. blaming the ps3.
 
Just caught up on everything. ChrisG is such a fucking manbaby, goddamn.

I don't think he should be banned from Evo for this, but it's a privately run event, they could do it if they want to (but I seriously doubt they will). But at some point Chris needs to get dropped from his sponsor, or banned from a tournament or something if he's ever going to stop this shit. I can't believe he then went back and doubled down on it, fuck.
 
Just caught up on everything. ChrisG is such a fucking manbaby, goddamn.

I don't think he should be banned from Evo for this, but it's a privately run event, they could do it if they want to (but I seriously doubt they will). But at some point Chris needs to get dropped from his sponsor, or banned from a tournament or something if he's ever going to stop this shit. I can't believe he then went back and doubled down on it, fuck.

i dont think age cares
 
I didn't manage to stay awake long enough to see ChrisG's tantrum, but I'm not surprised by his response. Not like he hasn't acted like a twat after losing before.
 
CHRIS G IS NOT BANNED FROM EVO

I don't know where you guys are getting this from.
He's still a whiny manbaby though.

No one said he was, just a lot and back and forth speculation on whether or not he should be. Calling the person who runs Evo a homophobic slur isn't a good idea lol
 
Got some time to look at some archives before bed.

Tell me melee minions. Was the grand finals an example of "good melee"? (if you know what I mean).
 
Watching the taximan/chris g thing i find it hard to see how it was due to ps3 lag. It was due to taximans team being the best team yet vs morrigan zoning


kudos to him using spencers graple to beat proyectiles too
 
Got some time to look at some archives before bed.

Tell me melee minions. Was the grand finals an example of "good melee"? (if you know what I mean).
whoa dere




Lets not be using that term out of context now. Melee players need to get their own schtick.
 
Watching the taximan/chris g thing i find it hard to see how it was due to ps3 lag. It was due to taximans team being the best team yet vs morrigan zoning


kudos to him using spencers graple to beat proyectiles too

I just watched it too. Anchor Dante won every time.
 
Well, ignoring the twitter drama afterwards, SenorTaxi vs Chris G was incredible. My favorite part was when he told Vergil to EAT LEAD and then BROUGHT THE PAIN.

Also the last part was some final boss shit, Dante vs Vergil.
 
Don't use vanilla marvel as a comparison tool. Some of the particle effects that had performance issues like jam session, and that ice move Dante has are a lot better. The problem are things like cross over combinations, and a lot of shit on the screen make the game feel jarring. The fight with galactus in vanilla was unplayable, but in ultimate its slightly better.

The community should put the blame on capcom more than anything. This shit wouldn't fly if more people were vocal about. It's too late now since the game isn't supported. Ultimate, and mvc3 were the ultimate rush jobs, and it shows in feature set, online and technical problems
 
Don't use vanilla marvel as a comparison tool. Some of the particle effects that had performance issues like jam session, and that ice move Dante has are a lot better. The problem are things like cross over combinations, and a lot of shit on the screen make the game feel jarring. The fight with galactus in vanilla was unplayable, but in ultimate its slightly better.

The community should put the blame on capcom more than anything. This shit wouldn't fly if more people were vocal about. It's too late now sine the game isn't supported. Ultimate, and mvc3 were the ultimate rush jobs, and it shows in feature set, online and technical problems
I think the amount of people you'd need to be vocal to change anything is pretty unrealistic to expect. No amount of complaining is suddenly going to make Marvel decide to release the game at a different time or within a different schedule.
 
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