Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed

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PS3/PS4
The Last of Us ( 6-14) (new ip)
MGS collection ( June)
Grand Theft Auto 5 ( 9-17)
Beyond: Two Souls (10-9) (new ip)
Batman Arkham Origins ( 10-25)
Assassins Creed 4 ( 10-29)
Watch Dogs (11-19)
Final Fantasy 10/10 2 HD ( end 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD ( end 2013)
The Evil Within (2014)
Metal Gear Soild 5 (2014)
Thief (2014) (new ip)
Destiny ( who knows)
Beyond Good & Evil (who knows)
Dark Souls 2 (who knows)
Cyberpunk 2077 (who knows)
New Final Fantasy (only on ps4)
Knack (new ip)

Xbox
Halo 5
: (

why should I buy a xbox when more ips come out for playstation 4 and every good game comes for every system and I have a PC to play bigger games. I need Microsoft to really make me change that thought process.

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PS3/PS4
The Last of Us ( 6-14) (new ip)
MGS collection ( June)
Grand Theft Auto 5 ( 9-17)
Beyond: Two Souls (10-9) (new ip)
Batman Arkham Origins ( 10-25)
Assassins Creed 4 ( 10-29)
Watch Dogs (11-19)
Final Fantasy 10/10 2 HD ( end 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD ( end 2013)
The Evil Within (2014)
Metal Gear Soild 5 (2014)
Thief (2014) (new ip)
Destiny ( who knows)
Beyond Good & Evil (who knows)
Dark Souls 2 (who knows)
Cyberpunk 2077 (who knows)
New Final Fantasy (only on ps4)
Knack (new ip)

Xbox
Halo 5
: (

why should I buy a xbox when more ips come out for playstation 4 and every good game comes for every system and I have a PC to play bigger games. I need Microsoft to really make me change that thought process.

I'll be legitimately surprised and disappointed if you still have the ability to post here in the next few hours.
 
Gemüsepizza;56502652 said:
What? They would of course sell less games, which has to be mitigated with money payed by Microsoft.

You misunderstand me. Locking down FIFA or Madden at the start of a new generation is possible due to the low install bases. So, in said hypothetical situation, if MS were to approach EA to lock down either, they could realistically achieve such a goal by offering to pay for the 500k/1m lost sales on PS4. The games would still come to PS3, 360, PC, etc but would only be available on one next generation console with some exclusive features to help increase awareness/make it stand out in the crowd.

This won't happen though, but if it ever were to, that is probably how it would go down.
 
PS3/PS4
The Last of Us ( 6-14) (new ip)
MGS collection ( June)
Grand Theft Auto 5 ( 9-17)
Beyond: Two Souls (10-9) (new ip)
Batman Arkham Origins ( 10-25)
Assassins Creed 4 ( 10-29)
Watch Dogs (11-19)
Final Fantasy 10/10 2 HD ( end 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD ( end 2013)
The Evil Within (2014)
Metal Gear Soild 5 (2014)
Thief (2014) (new ip)
Destiny ( who knows)
Beyond Good & Evil (who knows)
Dark Souls 2 (who knows)
Cyberpunk 2077 (who knows)
New Final Fantasy (only on ps4)
Knack (new ip)

Xbox
Halo 5
: (

why should I buy a xbox when more ips come out for playstation 4 and every good game comes for every system and I have a PC to play bigger games. I need Microsoft to really make me change that thought process.

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PS3/PS4
The Last of Us ( 6-14) (new ip)
MGS collection ( June)
Grand Theft Auto 5 ( 9-17)
Beyond: Two Souls (10-9) (new ip)
Batman Arkham Origins ( 10-25)
Assassins Creed 4 ( 10-29)
Watch Dogs (11-19)
Final Fantasy 10/10 2 HD ( end 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD ( end 2013)
The Evil Within (2014)
Metal Gear Soild 5 (2014)
Thief (2014) (new ip)
Destiny ( who knows)
Beyond Good & Evil (who knows)
Dark Souls 2 (who knows)
Cyberpunk 2077 (who knows)
New Final Fantasy (only on ps4)
Knack (new ip)

Xbox
Halo 5
: (

why should I buy a xbox when more ips come out for playstation 4 and every good game comes for every system and I have a PC to play bigger games. I need Microsoft to really make me change that thought process.

We have officially gone off the deep end...
 
PS3/PS4
The Last of Us ( 6-14) (new ip)
MGS collection ( June)
Grand Theft Auto 5 ( 9-17)
Beyond: Two Souls (10-9) (new ip)
Batman Arkham Origins ( 10-25)
Assassins Creed 4 ( 10-29)
Watch Dogs (11-19)
Final Fantasy 10/10 2 HD ( end 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD ( end 2013)
The Evil Within (2014)
Metal Gear Soild 5 (2014)
Thief (2014) (new ip)
Destiny ( who knows)
Beyond Good & Evil (who knows)
Dark Souls 2 (who knows)
Cyberpunk 2077 (who knows)
New Final Fantasy (only on ps4)
Knack (new ip)

Xbox
Halo 5
: (

why should I buy a xbox when more ips come out for playstation 4 and every good game comes for every system and I have a PC to play bigger games. I need Microsoft to really make me change that thought process.

Nice, do we have confirmation the new Final Fantasy is PS4 exclusive though? I thought that was just a rumor (although all positive Sony rumors are automatically true)
 
I want ms to come to the table and make me want a nextbox, after all the negative rumours if they come to the table with games and some nice surprises all those negative vibes will be gone and i will be back on the xbox train. Show me the games.
 
This thread will go down in GAF history.

first tolito-gate, now THIS.

just a thought re kotaku's comments... Could they be 'behind' because the spec changed at some point last year?

the comments on beyond 3D suggest otherwise, its just hard to accept they could have turned an early start and a lead into the rumoured situation without some sort of change?
 
This thread will go down in GAF history.

first tolito-gate, now THIS.

just a thought re kotaku's comments... Could they be 'behind' because the spec changed at some point last year?

the comments on beyond 3D suggest otherwise, its just hard to accept they could have turned an early start and a lead into the rumoured situation without some sort of change?


Totilo gate? What did I miss???
 
PS3/PS4
The Last of Us ( 6-14) (new ip)
MGS collection ( June)
Grand Theft Auto 5 ( 9-17)
Beyond: Two Souls (10-9) (new ip)
Batman Arkham Origins ( 10-25)
Assassins Creed 4 ( 10-29)
Watch Dogs (11-19)
Final Fantasy 10/10 2 HD ( end 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD ( end 2013)
The Evil Within (2014)
Metal Gear Soild 5 (2014)
Thief (2014) (new ip)
Destiny ( who knows)
Beyond Good & Evil (who knows)
Dark Souls 2 (who knows)
Cyberpunk 2077 (who knows)
New Final Fantasy (only on ps4)
Knack (new ip)

Xbox
Halo 5
: (

why should I buy a xbox when more ips come out for playstation 4 and every good game comes for every system and I have a PC to play bigger games. I need Microsoft to really make me change that thought process.

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Totilo gate? What did I miss???

balls

just realized that was the other thread... Sorry. Look up the kotaku six months behind thread... Tolito expanded on the reasons for his comments. Then thuway said Ms originally planned a 2012 release.

the comments align with a beyond3d poster who worked on Durango audio but says he quit because the culture changed, there's no gamers left on the team and he didn't agree with the direction Ms want to go.

its sure interesting... But as always unless someone genuinely blows the lid we'll never know the truth.
 
balls

just realized that was the other thread... Sorry. Look up the kotaku six months behind thread... Tolito expanded on the reasons for his comments. Then thuway said Ms originally planned a 2012 release.

the comments align with a beyond3d poster who worked on Durango audio but says he quit because the culture changed, there's no gamers left on the team and he didn't agree with the direction Ms want to go.

its sure interesting!

I'll look into that. Thanks!
 
Just got a Call of Duty ghosts ad on twitch that was also advertising the Xbox reveal.

20 more days...

all doom and gloom for the xbox...

except it's getting the biggest names and reveals in gaming. guessing bf4 might be there in a big way too, which is just crazy considering they're the biggest competitors. no way i thought ms could get both ea and activision in it's corner. you figure it's one or the other.

dont count ms out. they are powerful at business.

it also makes me think durango isn't as underpowered as claimed, because i have a hard time seeing third parties embracing it if so.

but, cant wait to see the new cod and how it stacks up to the bf4 footage.
 
balls

just realized that was the other thread... Sorry. Look up the kotaku six months behind thread... Tolito expanded on the reasons for his comments. Then thuway said Ms originally planned a 2012 release.

the comments align with a beyond3d poster who worked on Durango audio but says he quit because the culture changed, there's no gamers left on the team and he didn't agree with the direction Ms want to go.

its sure interesting!
Proelite said MS never targeted 2012 release,is this first time he and thuway doesn't have same info?

And the fact that Don Mattrick is a gamerborn,i'm not even sure why he think Xbox division has no gamers left
 
PS3/PS4
The Last of Us ( 6-14) (new ip)
MGS collection ( June)
Grand Theft Auto 5 ( 9-17)
Beyond: Two Souls (10-9) (new ip)
Batman Arkham Origins ( 10-25)
Assassins Creed 4 ( 10-29)
Watch Dogs (11-19)
Final Fantasy 10/10 2 HD ( end 2013)
Kingdom Hearts HD ( end 2013)
The Evil Within (2014)
Metal Gear Soild 5 (2014)
Thief (2014) (new ip)
Destiny ( who knows)
Beyond Good & Evil (who knows)
Dark Souls 2 (who knows)
Cyberpunk 2077 (who knows)
New Final Fantasy (only on ps4)
Knack (new ip)

Xbox
Halo 5
: (

why should I buy a xbox when more ips come out for playstation 4 and every good game comes for every system and I have a PC to play bigger games. I need Microsoft to really make me change that thought process.

feels like im on gamefaqs right now
 
Proelite said MS never targeted 2012 release,is this first time he and thuway doesn't have same info?

And the fact that Don Mattrick is a gamerborn,i'm not even sure why he think Xbox division has no gamers left

I think the beyond 3d guy was bkillian ? There's a HUGE Durango thread there... But be warned,it is not particularly comfortable reading re the tech.

:(

guess now we wait till the 21st.

I hope they nailed it ... My three defining experiences of this Gen have been the launches of halo 3, reach and 4... Where my best online mate and I put in marathon co op sessions.

ps4 looks amazing...genuinely amazing... But Xbox has given me the best controller and most consistent experience across the generation.
 
I think the beyond 3d guy was bkillian ? There's a HUGE Durango thread there... But be warned,it is not particularly comfortable reading re the tech.

:(

guess now we wait till the 21st.

I hope they nailed it ... My three defining experiences of this Gen have been the launches of halo 3, reach and 4... Where my best online mate and I put in marathon co op sessions.

ps4 looks amazing...genuinely amazing... But Xbox has given me the best controller and most consistent experience across the generation.
Whay are you ":(" about seriously?
 
I'm dying to see BF4 MP. And would it be far fetched that MS has an Xbox 3 version of GTA5 (even if it is only a cosmetic upgrade)?
 
Proelite said MS never targeted 2012 release,is this first time he and thuway doesn't have same info?

And the fact that Don Mattrick is a gamerborn,i'm not even sure why he think Xbox division has no gamers left

Well I would argue that when 360 launched the feeling was "let's make the greatest game machine ever", and now the focus seems to be a bit more about making money and creating an eco system.

You only have to turn on your 360 to see that focus shift.
 
Christ, that list.

I'm actually stunned at how positive the attitude to the PS4 has become. After the reveal the overwhelming sentiment here seemed to be one of disappointment that it was just more of the same. A couple of months later its the second coming.

I'm actually not to worried if Microsoft is 6 months behind schedule on first party games. If they're moneyhatting third party exclusives for launch and have the majority of their first party stuff coming out in the following months they'll be fine. An exclusive is an exclusive, no matter where it comes from
 
Well I would argue that when 360 launched the feeling was "let's make the greatest game machine ever", and now the focus seems to be a bit more about making money and creating an eco system.

You only have to turn on your 360 to see that focus shift.
Because game machine doesn't works for now anymore,and they just from pure gaming to gaming+whatever they can add,not delete the gaming feature
 
all doom and gloom for the xbox...

except it's getting the biggest names and reveals in gaming. guessing bf4 might be there in a big way too, which is just crazy considering they're the biggest competitors. no way i thought ms could get both ea and activision in it's corner. you figure it's one or the other.

dont count ms out. they are powerful at business.

it also makes me think durango isn't as underpowered as claimed, because i have a hard time seeing third parties embracing it if so.

but, cant wait to see the new cod and how it stacks up to the bf4 footage.

I just think people wanted something to be true that was highly unlikely to be the case from the very start. I genuinely believe that, deep down, all knew this, but were just having a little fun at the expense of the new xbox.

For those that really believed the next xbox would be weak, well, jokes on them? I don't think a lot of people realize what the rumored GPU for Durango will be capable of in a console. We can't use existing pc games using a similar looking GPU as a judge, because that same attempt with the closest pc equivalent to the ps3 and 360 gpus wouldn't have told us we would be seeing games that look like Uncharted 2, Halo 4, Forza 4, GT5, and a whole host of other games. Weaker than the PS4, if that turns out to be the case, does not mean weak, period.
 
So now we are hitting the point in the discussion where if you give realistic viewpoints, you don't like something?

What I typed is ultra realistic. I appreciate you for trying to inject some logic into this. Do people honestly believe that Kinect games won't be a focus at Microsoft's presser?
 
I just think people wanted something to be true that was highly unlikely to be the case from the very start. I genuinely believe that, deep down, all knew this, but were just having a little fun at the expense of the new xbox.

For those that really believed the next xbox would be weak, well, jokes on them? I don't think a lot of people realize what the rumored GPU for Durango will be capable of in a console. We can't use existing pc games using a similar looking GPU as a judge, because that same attempt with the closest pc equivalent to the ps3 and 360 gpus wouldn't have told us we would be seeing games that look like Uncharted 2, Halo 4, Forza 4, GT5, and a whole host of other games. Weaker than the PS4, if that turns out to be the case, does not mean weak, period.

Rationality? on the Internet?


*backs away slowly...
 
What I typed is ultra realistic. I appreciate you for trying to inject some logic into this. Do people honestly believe that Kinect games won't be a focus at Microsoft's presser?

Do people still want to read how you cant seem to get over it?

Yes they will focus on Kinect. They will talk about new experiences, they will still have games. If it hurts you that much, buy a Sony Console and please leave this thread for the Xbox fans to worry about their kinect ridden games.
 
You misunderstand me. Locking down FIFA or Madden at the start of a new generation is possible due to the low install bases. So, in said hypothetical situation, if MS were to approach EA to lock down either, they could realistically achieve such a goal by offering to pay for the 500k/1m lost sales on PS4. The games would still come to PS3, 360, PC, etc but would only be available on one next generation console with some exclusive features to help increase awareness/make it stand out in the crowd.

This won't happen though, but if it ever were to, that is probably how it would go down.

The terms of the license agreements with the sports leagues basically preclude that possibility.
 
One thing that sucks so far is that the first thing we hear about the next Xbox and its already about another Call of Duty......

Just ughhhh.
 
I'm actually stunned at how positive the attitude to the PS4 has become. After the reveal the overwhelming sentiment here seemed to be one of disappointment that it was just more of the same. A couple of months later its the second coming.

Well, we need to have something to get excited about, and with the WiiU stalling and the mute MS, it only leaves the PS4. Actually it's rather "funny" that the main source of excitement revolves around Cerny and "8GB GDDR5". Not many "can't wait to play Killzone/Infamous/Knack".

That is not at all what I said, the focus has changed from making the greatest gaming machine to creating a max profitable ecosystem.

The focus never changed. The moment they started asking gamers to pay for online services (multiplayer among them), you knew they were about creating a max profitable ecosystem. And that was 10 years ago.
It may be more obvious now that there are more and more services available, but that was the plan from the beginning.
 
Because game machine doesn't works for now anymore,and they just from pure gaming to gaming+whatever they can add,not delete the gaming feature

That is not at all what I said, the focus has changed from making the greatest gaming machine to creating a max profitable ecosystem.

And don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with that. It just isn't the same.

I applaud the wider features, I just don't like the feeling I am getting from the current dashboard: let's throw as many ads in his face as people will tolerate. Not doing what is in the best interest of the consumer but in the best interest of the bottom line. You are moving awfully close to the edge if you do that, and it won't take much to push people over.
 
Well, we need to have something to get excited about, and with the WiiU stalling and the mute MS, it only leaves the PS4. Actually it's rather "funny" that the main source of excitement revolves around Cerny and "8GB GDDR5". Not many "can't wait to play Killzone/Infamous/Knack".
Then you aren't reading enough.
 
Then you aren't reading enough.

I can't pretend reading everything here (or on other forums), but I had to browse all recent topics to the end of page 3 to find a topic dedicated to either of those games, and it was called "Knack should not be counted out so easily" and has something like 150 posts. That looks like a very low level of hype.
 
Christ, that list.

I'm actually stunned at how positive the attitude to the PS4 has become. After the reveal the overwhelming sentiment here seemed to be one of disappointment that it was just more of the same. A couple of months later its the second coming.
I don't think people have been won over by anything Sony have done with the PS4 (let's face it, there wasn't much we haven't seen before in that unveil) so much as the combined fail of the Wii U's absence of games/sales and the Durango's absence of game focus/pre-launch anti-hype has made the PS4 downright shine by comparison.

Third parties have all but abandoned Nintendo and Microsoft has apparently all but abandoned games... so why wouldn't we be excited for Sony's new baby?

The onus is now on Microsoft to change these widely held perceptions.
I love competition in this marketplace... it's always a good thing for gamers... so I hope they're able to hit a home run on the 21st.
 
Christ, that list.

I'm actually stunned at how positive the attitude to the PS4 has become. After the reveal the overwhelming sentiment here seemed to be one of disappointment that it was just more of the same. A couple of months later its the second coming.

That statement isn't true at all.

It was very positive and I took away that a lot of people were surprised at how joined up they are now and how well they presented the 'vision'.
 
I don't even think he's right


it's a THREAD - there's hundreds of comments in it.... most of them pointing in the same direction as EDGE and Digital Foundry have - that Durango is 'somewhat' less powerful than PS4.

I'm not saying I agree, or even that I fully believe it, but when a lot of technically minded people say something points in a certain direction you'd have to be an idiot to ignore it just because you want something else to happen to suit your view of the world.
 
Personally I think MS is seeing delays because their 1st party new IP's are geared at directly opposing PS IP (which is magnitudes better). MS have no answer to inFamous (open world), Last of Us (which is in a league of it's own) among others. If MS decided to do this and fill these genre gaps it would mean new IP's, new concept etc which we all know is a very lengthy process. This may be where the 'growing pains' rumour is coming from?

Launch will most likely be a handful of 1st party along with 3rd party exclusives and the usual multiplat games. The 2nd and 3rd years will be much better than the 1st I think.
 
I can't pretend reading everything here (or on other forums), but I had to browse all recent topics to the end of page 3 to find a topic dedicated to either of those games, and it was called "Knack should not be counted out so easily" and has something like 150 posts. That looks like a very low level of hype.

I'd say maybe that's down to knowing relatively little about them. I do love to see the KZ thread bumped to the front page; mainly cos I think it's very pretty.

Apart from theorising and expressing excitement is there much more conversation to be had? Or course those two measures might apply to any game! I dunno, seems a bit of an arbritary measure of hype.

Cheers.
 
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