Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed

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I'm guessing a lot of you guys also think that Microsoft is going to make Gold more akin to PS+, right? I bet that the two meet in the middle; multiplayer requires a pass (PS+) on PS4 and Nextbox incorporates some of PS+'s benefits like free games.
 
I'm guessing a lot of you guys also think that Microsoft is going to make Gold more akin to PS+, right? I bet that the two meet in the middle; multiplayer requires a pass (PS+) on PS4 and Nextbox incorporates some of PS+'s benefits like free games.

nope but i hope they do. psn will get a new tier system for sure but i just want xblg to be more like you said.
 
I'm guessing a lot of you guys also think that Microsoft is going to make Gold more akin to PS+, right? I bet that the two meet in the middle; multiplayer requires a pass (PS+) on PS4 and Nextbox incorporates some of PS+'s benefits like free games.

If I was Microsoft, I'd let Silver members play online, and nothing else. Keep the rest as is. Except maybe IE and YouTube.

Then I'd take a cue from PS Plus and put up a rotation of 3 arcade games every month that Gold members can pick from to keep for free. Not rent, but actually keep even if your gold lapses.

Then once every 6 months, do the same for a full retail digital game. Then of course whatever new stuff they come up with keep behind gold. I fully expect Sony to charge for multiplayer this time around. I know most refuse to believe it will happen, but the signs point to it happening. Sony's silence on the matter being the most telling one.
 
junior,

there is fierce competition this time. PS4 is virtually like a PC and if MS hasnt really changed x720's HW then the disparity between the 2 would be visible at launch, which will influence consumer's purchase decisions

Ugh, please stop. Please.

Like it did this gen right?
 

Dude.

there is fierce competition this time. PS4 is virtually like a PC and if MS hasnt really changed x720's HW then the disparity between the 2 would be visible at launch

Durango is built like a PC too. There is no disparity. The differences just aren't that great, and even if they were, multi-platform games are always catered to the lowest common denominator. Because of this, buying decisions are affected by i) services, and ii) community.

edit: Also, bear in mind we still don't actually know the specs of Durango!
 
junior,

there is fierce competition this time. PS4 is virtually like a PC and if MS hasnt really changed x720's HW then the disparity between the 2 would be visible at launch, which will influence consumer's purchase decisions

the competition was also fierce last gen genius.

you know the wii right ? the weakest console out of the three. it dominated this gen. i guess you still think best hw means it sells the most.
 
Hardware, which I'm sure will be adequate, is not what I'm looking forward to (well, I am, but I'm sure it'll be fine).

I'm really excited to see the software side. UI, features, that's where the magic is. That's what you look at every day. MS is bringing all their worlds together, and I get the feeling that the next Xbox is the final piece of that puzzle.

16 days!
 
Hardware, which I'm sure will be adequate, is not what I'm looking forward to (well, I am, but I'm sure it'll be fine).

I'm really excited to see the software side. UI, features, that's where the magic is. That's what you look at every day. MS is bringing all their worlds together, and I get the feeling that the next Xbox is the final piece of that puzzle.

16 days!

This is what I've been looking forward to the whole time.

Games shames. All consoles have more than enough great games over their life cycle to warrant a backlog for most. It's the OS that snares it for me. Microsoft won me over with their OS and Live integration. I really really really hope the new Xbox has Air Play like functionality with Windows Phone 8.
 
All we know for certain is that COD (i forgot which number COD is on they're all the fucking same) and BF4 will have exclusive timed DLC for next box like they normally do. The timed exclusive GTA5 thing could happen and tbh it really should if MS want to get an advantage. Especially if they're not gonna make anymore hardcore games themselves (they have shit studios compared to Sony).

Kinect with new Kinect Sports 3 won't win the hardcore crowds who would initially buy a MS console at launch. If they have any sense they can't rely on same old formula again. I mean does anyone buy Kinect still? Seemed like a fad..wonder how well it's selling now? They marketed it well and told lies i'll give them that. But it's a rubbish product with limited ideas for gaming.
 
junior,

there is fierce competition this time. PS4 is virtually like a PC and if MS hasnt really changed x720's HW then the disparity between the 2 would be visible at launch, which will influence consumer's purchase decisions

The hell is this shit? Why bother calling the poster junior?
 
This is what I've been looking forward to the whole time.

Games shames. All consoles have more than enough great games over their life cycle to warrant a backlog for most. It's the OS that snares it for me. Microsoft won me over with their OS and Live integration. I really really really hope the new Xbox has Air Play like functionality with Windows Phone 8.

I think the 360 does already through Smart Glass, if I'm not mistaken.
 
This is what I've been looking forward to the whole time.

Games shames. All consoles have more than enough great games over their life cycle to warrant a backlog for most. It's the OS that snares it for me. Microsoft won me over with their OS and Live integration. I really really really hope the new Xbox has Air Play like functionality with Windows Phone 8.

You can already send music to your Xbox from windows 8. I assume it'll get better from there.
 
junior,

there is fierce competition this time. PS4 is virtually like a PC and if MS hasnt really changed x720's HW then the disparity between the 2 would be visible at launch, which will influence consumer's purchase decisions

At least when most people say this they've been here for years and have thousands of posts (not that that makes it any better). I don't think it quite has the same effect when you're only 133 posts above junior status.
 
I'm guessing a lot of you guys also think that Microsoft is going to make Gold more akin to PS+, right? I bet that the two meet in the middle; multiplayer requires a pass (PS+) on PS4 and Nextbox incorporates some of PS+'s benefits like free games.

Nope. Given their history, what I think they'll do is make one XBL license work for everyone on one Xbox (ie. the reason they killed off the current family pack). If they add any value to it, it will be in the form of media content from the new studio they opened. They'll continue to offer nice discounts to XBL members, but I don't see them using it as a game rental service ala PSN+. I also don't see PSN+ continuing in its same for next gen.
 
Nope. Given their history, what I think they'll do is make one XBL license work for everyone on one Xbox (ie. the reason they killed off the current family pack). If they add any value to it, it will be in the form of media content from the new studio they opened. They'll continue to offer nice discounts to XBL members, but I don't see them using it as a game rental service ala PSN+. I also don't see PSN+ continuing in its same for next gen.

Oh shit you're back. I thought it was perma. Good to see it wasn't.
 
If I was Microsoft, I'd let Silver members play online, and nothing else. Keep the rest as is. Except maybe IE and YouTube.

Then I'd take a cue from PS Plus and put up a rotation of 3 arcade games every month that Gold members can pick from to keep for free. Not rent, but actually keep even if your gold lapses.

Then once every 6 months, do the same for a full retail digital game. Then of course whatever new stuff they come up with keep behind gold. I fully expect Sony to charge for multiplayer this time around. I know most refuse to believe it will happen, but the signs point to it happening. Sony's silence on the matter being the most telling one.

I think Sony is only silent on the matter because they only wanted to reveal and discuss so much until E3. Sony has been silent about many other things, doesn't mean we won't hear good news eventually.
 
Nope. Given their history, what I think they'll do is make one XBL license work for everyone on one Xbox (ie. the reason they killed off the current family pack). If they add any value to it, it will be in the form of media content from the new studio they opened. They'll continue to offer nice discounts to XBL members, but I don't see them using it as a game rental service ala PSN+. I also don't see PSN+ continuing in its same for next gen.

When has MS ever offered nice discounts to XBL members?
 
Are you being serious?

Do you own a 360?
I'm serious. Spring sales? Or forcing you to buy all 4 summer of arcade games to get the 4th one free even if 2 of them could be pants? Hardly discounts more like making you spend more like buy 2 get 3rd free at supermarket. You do not need a sub for that either anyway.
 
When has MS ever offered nice discounts to XBL members?

Are you being serious?

Do you own a 360?

Well, in Boco's defense, without Xbox Live you basically can't do ANYTHING network related. To even be able to use most of Xbox 360's capabilities you need Xbox Live. If I'm not mistaken, you can't make purchases of any kind without being connected to the service, so its not like you get an added "benefit" of discounts, since non-Live members can't even purchase the items whether they're full price or discounted.
 
Well, in Boco's defense, without Xbox Live you basically can't do ANYTHING network related. To even be able to use most of Xbox 360's capabilities you need Xbox Live. If I'm not mistaken, you can't make purchases of any kind without being connected to the service, so its not like you get an added "benefit" of discounts, since non-Live members can't even purchase the items whether they're full price or discounted.

You can have a Silver account and still be able to download XBLA games, demos etc...
 
Well, in Boco's defense, without Xbox Live you basically can't do ANYTHING network related. To even be able to use most of Xbox 360's capabilities you need Xbox Live. If I'm not mistaken, you can't make purchases of any kind without being connected to the service, so its not like you get an added "benefit" of discounts, since non-Live members can't even purchase the items whether they're full price or discounted.

Is this sarcasm too?

Bacon, welcome back. and be good.

You're upside down, man.

Nice to see Baconsammy back!

Stop it, you're going to make me cry.
 
I'm serious. Spring sales? Or forcing you to buy all 4 summer of arcade games to get the 4th one free even if 2 of them could be pants? Hardly discounts more like making you spend more like buy 2 get 3rd free at supermarket. You do not need a sub for that either anyway.

The latest one (that you apparently missed) had some great GoD on sale. I picked up El Shaddai for $3 and Dead Island for $10. Some other stuff too. Lots of great deals, sorry you missed it.
 
I'm serious. Spring sales? Or forcing you to buy all 4 summer of arcade games to get the 4th one free even if 2 of them could be pants? Hardly discounts more like making you spend more like buy 2 get 3rd free at supermarket. You do not need a sub for that either anyway.

Couple months ago I have bought Max Payne 3,Batman Arkham Asylum,Dirt 2,Grid,MGS Collection,L4D2,Resident Evil Code Veronica and Resident Evil 6 for about $50.Pretty good deal if you ask me.
There are some really good weekly sales too.Biggest problem is that sometimes they are not advertised properly and it's easy to miss it.
 
No need to be a jackass. That's why I said "if I'm not mistaken" since I wasn't 100% certain.

I wasn't being a jackass, honestly. I can't tell if you're serious. You can't do anything on PSN, Steam, or XBL if you're not connected to it. A silver member is still connected to XBL, and are free to buy anything they want to. They just cant get the discounts that Gold members are offered. They're also free to make XBL purchases via the web interface. The reason I thought you were possibly joking is that obviously you can't buy something from a service you're not connected to.
 
Couple months ago I have bought Max Payne 3,Batman Arkham Asylum,Dirt 2,Grid,MGS Collection,L4D2,Resident Evil Code Veronica and Resident Evil 6 for about $50.Pretty good deal if you ask me.
There are some really good weekly sales too.Biggest problem is that sometimes they are not advertised properly and it's easy to miss it.

Really? They are having big AAA games for $5 each and they aren't advertising this anywhere and nobody talks about it?

What. I don't buy that...
 
The latest one (that you apparently missed) had some great GoD on sale. I picked up El Shaddai for $3 and Dead Island for $10. Some other stuff too. Lots of great deals, sorry you missed it.

yep max payne 3 was 5€ and sleeping dogs 10$
of course you cant see any discount if you dont turn the console on
 
I wasn't being a jackass, honestly. I can't tell if you're serious. You can't do anything on PSN, Steam, or XBL if you're not connected to it. A silver member is still connected to XBL, and are free to buy anything they want to. They just cant get the discounts that Gold members are offered. They're also free to make XBL purchases via the web interface. The reason I thought you were possibly joking is that obviously you can't buy something from a service you're not connected to.

Gotcha. I never really considered Xbox Live Silver to be a "service", which was why I always figured users without Live Gold were shut out from practically all purchase-related services.
 
Really? They are having big AAA games for $5 each and they aren't advertising this anywhere and nobody talks about it?

What. I don't buy that...

To be fair this sale was pretty big and sales that big aren't common but that doesn't change the fact that it was real and took place on XBL.
 
Gotcha. I never really considered Xbox Live Silver to be a "service", which was why I always figured users without Live Gold were shut out from practically all purchase-related services.

Microsoft does everything in its power to make Silver users buy Gold, but one of those things is definitely not cutting them off from spending money. People aren't wrong when they say Microsoft loves money. =)
 
I'm serious. Spring sales? Or forcing you to buy all 4 summer of arcade games to get the 4th one free even if 2 of them could be pants? Hardly discounts more like making you spend more like buy 2 get 3rd free at supermarket. You do not need a sub for that either anyway.

Ok, so you're just a troll trying to act like you're not one. Cool.
 
To be fair this sale was pretty big and sales that big aren't common but that doesn't change the fact that it was real and took place on XBL.
Do you have to be a gold member for these sales though? Also although cool, I don't really pay attention to sales as I just buy games on release if I want to play them.

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Hmmm ok. I still have a hard time believing all those games were $5 a piece... but, if you say so!

EDIT: Ahw I found it; http://majornelson.com/2013/03/03/xbox-live-ultimate-game-sale-day-6/

Not as good as you said, but still pretty good. Is this a usual occurrence or a one-time thing?

Here is a topic about this sale http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=515053

And yes IT WAS exactly as good as I said,prices were different from country to country.
I gave 520MSP(around $6) for Max Payne 3 and 520MSP for RE6 if I remember correctly.Some people bought MP3 even cheaper.You can find it in thread I have posted.
 
I think after seeing the free games on PSN and new discounted PSN games, Live just doesn't seem as appealing to me as it once did, even with its party chat and cross invites. The online multiplayer pretty much just consists of FPS where other games are hard to play online because their MP is like a ghost town within a week. That is pretty much what I feel like I'm paying for on LIVE. I'm paying for the privlige of playing CoD and....that's pretty much it? I can do that for free on PSN and get games I never played for free.

I been on a Xbox sub nice it come out and mostly played on this console as my primary as all my friends use it. But I feel past year or two it's just not offering good incentives to stay anymore. The competition that was once inferior is now superior to XBL..
 
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