The hell, do you need someone to shout in your ear before you believe anything.
I don't know why you would have believed the first rumor either there was never a real source.
Microsoft: Next Xbox will work even when your Internet doesnt
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The hell, do you need someone to shout in your ear before you believe anything.
I don't know why you would have believed the first rumor either there was never a real source.
DragonSworne
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Don't websites usually identify the rumor being from the same source as previous rumors to lend credibility to the current rumor?
Is this not common practice?
Neko Mimi Mode
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No one has a track record on Durango, your rules for selectively believing one source over others are so hopelessly contrived it's a wonder how you actually expect to be taken seriously.
Nope, just that "according to latest rumors, earlier rumors were incorrect". These sites can easily manage to post more rumors before 21st that change things one way or another.
flyinpiranha
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Baited. Awesome, thanks for the laugh.
What does this even mean?
Either way, this is a good rumor finally. I enjoy MS IPs more than Sony's when it comes down to it and I was starting to feel a bit disparaged by how they were treating the consumer with the 'leaks' and such. I plan to pick up both this year so it's not really a 'battle' for me but I hope they both turn out to be more than just toll booths for 'services'.
the only reason to send a letter of information regarding a policy, is if the policy has changed.
so good news.
I'm still interested on whether the new xbox will function without the camera
(I dont mind buying another kinect, if microsoft really wants to sell me one with the console, but -like the one I have now- it stays off unless I say so.)
Also the thing about being able to run used games.
About the technology and the ..rumored technology, I would prefer that it would be cutting edge, but whatever it has inside should be good enough for a couple of years, so
as long as the two things above are offered - and I think they will be - its all good for me.
so good news.
I'm still interested on whether the new xbox will function without the camera
(I dont mind buying another kinect, if microsoft really wants to sell me one with the console, but -like the one I have now- it stays off unless I say so.)
Also the thing about being able to run used games.
About the technology and the ..rumored technology, I would prefer that it would be cutting edge, but whatever it has inside should be good enough for a couple of years, so
as long as the two things above are offered - and I think they will be - its all good for me.
DragonSworne
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I don't think people really believed the first rumor until the Orth disaster.
Well that is good news, too bad used games/rentals are going to be locked out. Maybe we will get some nice front loaded content to tempt us via a demo process or something.
Used games this gen, always online DRM next gen. For those saying it isn't happening because gamestop is happy? Guess who is selling you the code?
Used games this gen, always online DRM next gen. For those saying it isn't happening because gamestop is happy? Guess who is selling you the code?
maabus1999
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Not hard to confirm a mass e-mail...........
This isn't an e-mail between two people.
Double standards, much?
Exactly. When you have stuff like this:
Ah how did I know you wouldn't be pleased by this news?You really will cling on to any bad 720 news for as long as you can won't you.
It makes you not even want to go in the thread because it's just a lot of high-fiving and ass slapping from the Xbox fans and grumbling and etc. from everyone else. Let's just wait 2 more weeks, good grief.
Policy never changed. It has been the same way since the start.
People have to stop trying to make a narrative out of everything.
You're doing the exact same thing. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Psycho_Mantis
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Lol people acting like this is true. Just like the EDGE rumour this is a rumour. Does anyone know the source of this rumour? Where Ars is getting its info from?
But think about the HDD space...
Mass emails sent to MS employees are rumors?
I seem to remember everyone saying it's defiantly true now, everyone thought it was true then they used Orth as their evidence.
Not bad evidence mind you, but that was really about it.
Pyramid head
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My point being that this should not even be a thing.
The shitstorm was a good thing because the idea that a platform holder would push always-online is abhorrent.
News that this isn't the case is only 'good' in the same sense as 'the tumor is not malignant' is good news.
A good poster
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Apparently not.
What has that got to do with anything I said to Takuya?
Killing_Joke
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Technically they would still be able to block used games with out required internet right?
Just be allowed to play used games without some stupid activation code. That's all i care about.
Just be allowed to play used games without some stupid activation code. That's all i care about.
Yeh, I'd be pretty impressed with that.
sechsterangriff
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This is very good news if true. I just find it very strange details like these aren't common knowledge to full-time employees working on the next Xbox.
Maybe this means it's a final decision they only reached fairly recently?
Maybe this means it's a final decision they only reached fairly recently?
Lol - as if that makes it better. These unclear statements about how Durango should function weren't meant for the press! They were just meant for our internal project staff, so they could, you know, do their jobs effectively...based on non-specific criteria about fundamental system components. That's all.
Not everyone who works on a console has a complete understanding of every part of how the system functions.
The people who sent it and people who received it knew exactly what the pieces meant. What is really so hard to understand?
Miles Quaritch
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Huh, I always thought had actual documentation. Thanks for clearing that up.
The only Documentation I've seen was the SDK stuff from VGLeaks.
Baited. Awesome, thanks for the laugh.
Nah, you just got exposed and now you are back-pedaling by pretending like this was an elaborate bait just for laughs.
And even if you were, you'd be admitting to purposefully trolling, which is bannable.
Not a good look for you either way lol.
I don't get it either. He thinks he's clever or something idk.
How on earth is "the turmor is not malignant" NOT good news? Something bad supposedly happens, then you learn that it isn't bad at all. Explain how that is not good news.
Dem mental gymnastics.
maabus1999
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The most obvious end to all of this is the next Xbox needs some Net connectivity to do specific tasks, which wouldn't surprise me if it was related to installations.
Heck, [conjecture incoming] maybe the real reason you need a connection is MSFT wants to decrypt the "game" similar to what Steam does, which prevents early playing/leaks, makes pirating much harder since the full game isn't present on disc always, and unfortunately, an effective way of limiting 2nd hand sales.
Heck, [conjecture incoming] maybe the real reason you need a connection is MSFT wants to decrypt the "game" similar to what Steam does, which prevents early playing/leaks, makes pirating much harder since the full game isn't present on disc always, and unfortunately, an effective way of limiting 2nd hand sales.
Baconsammy
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I assume that's true in the same sense that there will be no single player PS4 games since any game can apparently be opened up to others over the 'net to take control of your game. I think that's a cool feature, but one I'd never use. Social gaming.
DragonSworne
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Why would you be impressed with DRM? You can't sell your games if that's this is the case.
Maybe there were some aspects that needed to be online all the time, or maybe they didn't want anyone to slip up and say it was always online.
Or maybe they just but this out there so people wouldn't keep on using it as a reason against the next-box.
BRocknRolla
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I just don't get it. Why would you put your full faith in any report about an unreleased system without proof? Same for Edge. Same for VGLeaks. Why is this report worthy of being called truth, but the others are not? How are they not all rumors? You're really twisting these statements to imply there is some kind of anti-ms rhetoric where there is none.
Then how do you know that Ars has a good source? I guess I assumed you wouldn't claim Ars has good sources have the cornered the truth market unless you has something to back that up. I mean, otherwise you're just making statements based on blind faith, which seems odd.
Edit:
Well, it certainly sounds like you've either got inside sources (which you deny), or you're just making blanket statements without anything to back it up. So I guess that pretty much puts an end to the conversation.
Kill Your Masters
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It's what I always believed it would be. Everyone had a different interpretation, and since the 'bad news is best news' crowd is the loudest every other explanation goes under in any discussion.
Nope. There was an article a while back that talked about how secure their offices were. I assume that too applies to employees. If you're working on the controller or the shell, no reason for you to know about DRM policies.
Exactly what it means.
Septimus Prime
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Peter Bright? No way he's getting fired. The guy has been right about all things MS for Ars for a long time. The worst anyone can say about him is that sometimes he gets a little too enthused for products that don't pan out well, like Windows Phone 7.
sechsterangriff
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Even in a need-to-know basis scenario, there must be a baseline.
We are talking about basic functionality here.
I dunno. Let's wait for the reveal first and E3.
XtremeXpider
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Am I the only one who believe Microsoft is playing with us? some rumors are really confusing.
I brought that up in the first page or so.
I really doubt that.
A good poster
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It'd still be a tough sell, but it depends on what games they show me.
I wont need too.
Your reply doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
In your mind, yes.
But what does advertising need from that info? It will never grace any material ever. So why would they need to know?
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