Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed
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All published by Microsoft Studios. Does it matter if some of them went to Windows? Thats like saying its not a PS3 exclusive it it goes to the Vita lol.
Str0ngStyle
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If we are gonna be honest,Sony pays ND (yes they are owned by Sony, but still) to only make games for Sony platforms. Exclusive= not available anywhere else. Who made it or how it got made is irrelevant.
Sony has released a lot more exclusive stuff in 2012 than Microsoft ( Journey, The Unfinished Swan, Starhawk, Twisted Metal, Smash Brothers CLone etc.). SUre we can discuss about the quality/appeal/timing of these games but that doesn´t change that Sonys effort far outweighs Microsofts and that in their by far weakest years since 2007.
Let´s better not talk about 2013.
I'd say that he sounds bitter about the console exclusive titles that are not on the PS3, guess he's a PS3 only owner.
I got this, guys:
in about 10 days we will know if microsoft will bring us a killer or a dud
I don't know why I even responded to him. He does this in every Xbox thread. I know better now.
Honestly I feel like probably a lot of why the PS4 announce failed to make an impression on me is because they showed KZ and inFamous. Those are by far the least interesting Sony properties.
If they'd showed Uncharted 4 I'd probably already be saving.
Not to defend that guy, but two sequels and two original IPs (Knack and DriveClub) seems like a reasonable balance.
Miles Quaritch
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I got this, guys:
PGR4 was such an amazing game. Still manages to hold its own visually too. Man, I hope we get a new PGR, I need it.
There is a difference between building something from the ground and just paying developer xy to not release their game that they would´ve made anyway on platform xy.
AdventureRacing
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I'd rather they bought up more 1st party studios but i have to disagree with you here. Essentially 1st party developers are devs who have been bought to develop exclusively for that platform holders console. If people are being payed to make games it doesn't bother me.
It's still money that is going to the devs to be able to make more games. Have all sony's 1st party studios been built from the ground up?
Miles Quaritch
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Knack was the only game that piqued my interest at the meeting. They really should have shown Hohokum as well, now that looks amazing.
Weird. I guess all those games i was playing ( Both Alan Wake games, Dust, Mark of the Ninja, etc)must have been figments of my imagination.
Dat goal post changing.
So a rehash of Warhawk, and rehash of Twisted Metal? Two indie games (with Sony paying both developers a 3 game exclusivity deal to keep their games off of other platforms) and a new IP (new in terms of being a new name, not in design). Yeah, really blowing off the doors here.
I wasn´t disputing this, but most of these games listed weren´t made by teams that would qualify as first party.
And Sony has a mixture of teams that were bought, teams that were built from the ground and teams they are just having a contract with to develop exclusive content.
But the point is, their efforts in every single category far outweigh what Microsoft does.
gaming_noob
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All of those, except Journey, have bombed hard.
I didn´t change anything, most of the games listed just weren´t first party devloped or even exclusive.
Why are you even in this thread again?
I can't either right now but I can't see this going on for much longer. This is absolutely absurd.
To explain why i am not hyped for the new Box?
So that's what kids call trolling nowadays? huh..
Most.
Because your insane irrational bias stops you from doing so?
eastx
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I'm wondering the same thing.
Trials, Mark of the Ninja and Fez are also exclusive. You ONLY listed exclusives.
PC is irrelevant, and even if it wasn't, Microsoft allowed those games onto PC.
Its called revenue. Console exclusives are still exclusives in the console space.
So Mark of the Ninja does not count as an exclusive because in theory the game would've been ported to the PS3? so games like Yakuza, Ni No Kuni, Unfinished Swan, Deadly Premonition: DC are the bad kind of exclusives because they are not first party and there was a possibility that the above would've been released on the 360...what kind of nonsense is this?
Repost.. from another board.
just some thoughts..
recap-Xbox 360 - ring motif, connected, online features and services,
Xbox Infinity - infinite possibilities, connected+, modest specs, PaaS/cloud rendering/computing/AI *enhancements* using Azure infrastructure, (as 2nd gen software features) using display planes and new APIs/ DirectX update, Private cloud streaming functionality of interactive/non interactive content. heavy integration between xbox and windows systems in private and public cloud.
Less of a console launch and more of an ecosystem launch.
just some thoughts..
recap-Xbox 360 - ring motif, connected, online features and services,
Xbox Infinity - infinite possibilities, connected+, modest specs, PaaS/cloud rendering/computing/AI *enhancements* using Azure infrastructure, (as 2nd gen software features) using display planes and new APIs/ DirectX update, Private cloud streaming functionality of interactive/non interactive content. heavy integration between xbox and windows systems in private and public cloud.
Less of a console launch and more of an ecosystem launch.
Mark of the Ninja doesn´t count as an exclusive because it´s not 360 exclusive, you can get it on PC. You don´t get Yakuza anywhere else than on the PS3, therefore it´s exclusive. Not that hard to grasp is it?
My explanation regarding the developers and Microsofts politics were more about the value they add to the gaming landscape and less about the term exclusive.
digoutyoursoul
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I don't think some are defensive, I think some have enjoyed a product and are naturally looking forward to its successor so when they see certain folks trying to shit stir with piss poor trolling you would expect from a ten year old kid, it's understandable you might feel irked after a while
Bleedorang3
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Haha. So salty. I don't care how the later years of this gen. went. I fell in love with the Xbox from the first day I played Halo, and again when Microsoft brought Xbox Live. If it wasn't for them Sony would still be stuck in the dark ages in regards to online services. Playing games with my friends and having a great time doing it matters a lot to me. No cross-game chat on PS3 is a deal-breaker, full stop.
i think we can understand it from the scheduler
"Scheduler
The scheduler of the SC is responsible for loading shader code from memory and controlling execution of the four SIMDs. In addition to managing the SIMDs, the scheduler also executes certain types of instructions on its own."
On each clock cycle, the scheduler considers one of the four SIMDs, iterating over them in a round-robin fashion. Most instructions have a four cycle throughput, so each SIMD only needs attention once every four clocks."
is true that each simd MOST instructions need 4 cycles to get but working in asynchronous way i think that most of the cycles u will have in every SC (or cu) an instruction ready...
not every simd is ready at the same time and his put the picture in a more comprensible way....
each simd (and not computer unit as u said) for how is described on vgleaks have 64 threads cyclet the fact that a insctruction need 4 cycles come after...we r talking about threads here
its more that its allowed to happen that irks.
NeoGAF told me that Sony guys don't spin Microsoft threads into negatives so I don't know what you're talking about...
Bleedorang3
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LoL @ "gaming landscape". Seems like you're just mad that the 360 has been getting third-party exclusives. It doesn't matter one iota to the people Microsoft should care about, their customers, where the game came from. The exclusives increase the value of the platform.
Like Sony's deals with ThatGameCompany, Insomniac (while it lasted), Naughty Dog and Giant Sparrow?
The only difference is that Microsoft allows some of its game to come out on the PC, while for the most part Sony does not.
You're just like projecting your own biases and stuff, man!
gaming_noob
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Damn. Sounds like Sony pays developers to keep their games off of PC.
Officerrob
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How dare they! They are ruining the "gaming landscape"!!
Well clearly having more people play the game adds nothing to the gaming landscape, ya know?
Naughty Dog is owned by Sony and the last game from ThatGameCompany was co-developed by SSM, so it´s often quite a bit more effort involved than just paying them to not bring their games on a certain platform.
dragonbane
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While most of these games were shit, you can say the same stuff (more of the same, not setting the world on fire) about Halo 4 or Forza too. 2012 wasn't that great for both.
On the other hand Sony clearly owns 2013, but mostly for the fact that MS abandoned this gen. Hope it translates into great next gen games.
I always wondered why MS did get a lot of flak for exclusives like Alan Wake and Sony did not. I know it's not that simple, but it's really weird to me. At least MS recently publishes a lot of their games to PC, or let them publish by the companies themselves. Oh wait... they get flak for that too.
This is old news for us, but IGN seems to think the next xbox will be called Infinity.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/05/09/the-next-xbox-is-reportedly-called-xbox-infinity
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/05/09/the-next-xbox-is-reportedly-called-xbox-infinity
so ms allowing more people to play great games is bad?
according to your own rules, aren't Sony the bad guy for denying anyone without a ps3 access to those exclusives? Aren't they adding nothing to the gaming landscape?
The difference is that first party games give insight into the future of the console, not just the present. For example, we know even before they announced the system that PS4 is going to get games from Naughty Dog, Polyphony, etc. Back in 2005, we knew the 360 was going to get a game from Bungie. 3rd party developers hold no guarantees for the future. They could go multiplat like Bungie has now, or Insomniac, or they could go exclusive to another system.
What do we know that we are getting from the next XBOX? I guess we'll just have to wait and find out.
Perhaps it doesn't really matter, but I think it's first parties that help give each console and each brand an identity.
well, the good thing -short term at least- is that the more "conventional" (a.k.a mid-low pc) the next xbox technology will be,
the more exclusive good games microsoft will have to secure for it in order to make it walk.
so for at least a year or two, even if its a technological "piece of shit", it will be worth it most probably.
the more exclusive good games microsoft will have to secure for it in order to make it walk.
so for at least a year or two, even if its a technological "piece of shit", it will be worth it most probably.
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