Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed

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I don't see this happening...you have kinect in every box, more powerful hardware will probably push MS in to bleeding $$ category. I think they will just overclock the specs we have seen and push it to 1.6 TFLop range.

So in the end SONY made MS a favour by showing its hand first thus making MS a more powerful console that it originally planed.


Am I the only one that doesn't know what he's talking about? What are these roots they're returning to?

This can only mean one thing, the Duke is back
 
Am I the only one that doesn't know what he's talking about? What are these roots they're returning to?

People have been harping on about MS abandoning the core after it was the thing to call Nintendo out for doing. It never really had any definite criteria though, so that they're undoing it just makes for a confusing sentiment...

Are they tacitly admitting that they've been neglecting the core (whatever that means) all this time?
 
http://majornelson.com/2013/05/16/xbox-delivers-for-core-gamers-with-machinima-and-more/

We roll out new entertainment experiences on Xbox LIVE on a weekly basis all over the globe, bringing you movies, television, sports and music week after week and offering something for everyone in the family. But this week, we’re going back to our roots and highlighting experiences for our core Xbox gamers.

We launched Machinima a few weeks ago—our first app to launch in all 41 Xbox LIVE markets—and the download rate has been overwhelming. In fact, after only two weeks on Xbox LIVE, it’s already one of the fastest adopted Xbox Live entertainment apps of the last 12 months.


Hint at next weeks event?
NeoGAF App on Next Xbox. BOOM.
 
That is sort of gross hahahahaha. But warranted at this time:)

Hahah. I miss the early 360 days. The Colony reveal of this was epic:

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Good times. It'd be great to get something similar for PGR5 featuring the LaFerrari
 
Do I have to re type out one of my old posts?

For retailers, they can cost protect by making everything pay on scan, out prints a QR code and away you go... What this means for retailers? reduction in assets, increase in price flexibility, reduction in labor. What this means for publishers? Product can't be sold prior to release date, less labor, more price flexibility.

For consumers... Credit. Integrated market. You sell to friend, they pay money to MS at the price you set, seller gets credit relative to the price set. Seller can use said credit for a future purchase, buyer gets game at a discount. Choice of seller? Check. Choice of price? Check. Equal value? Check. Publisher gets their protection? Check.

Now back to retailers... Same system as before, when a customer sells, they get credit which can also be used in stores. Magical freedom! Now when a consumer uses that credit, a portion of it goes to publisher, a portion goes to retailer. Now retailer gets a rebate (likely in form of cheque/check). That rebate can then be used for more aggressive pricing while still maintaining a margin to increase sales.

This means incentive to take back used games, incentive to sell new games.

For consumers, having licenses means mobility. Like steam. You don't need the disc. But unlike steam you would have options.

Publishers win. Retailers win. Consumers win.

Something something

That will never happen ... thank god.
 
So major Nelson basically said that for the past few years they've forgotten about the hardcore and now they need people to preach about their product so they're going back to the hardcore?
 
That's what I'm getting from it too. "Hey, we've ignored you long enough. Here's a bone."

I bet the bone is *SURPRISE*LOCOCYCLE.

They may pull Crimson Dragon out of nowhere, too... After all it's been finished for some time, now.

Anyway I won't trust that allusion to "hardcore gamers" any more than I did that of Sony during their own show. They're just telling people what they want to hear, it's all marketing. Not that I was worried about not getting games on next gen gaming consoles, anyway.
 
360 uncloaked. It goes into some really fun detail about how MS has divisions that are very competitive with one another internally and sort of battle it out until someone declares the winner. In some ways they are like Sega with the DC but even more heated.

I am NOT saying there is any changes. Just saying that MS runs their internal business that way when it comes to hardware. Especially when you consider that the Kinect will be in every box which means a massive savings from hardware orders and the Kinect isn't freakishly expensive in the first place(even with the small upgrades) so its not like putting a Kinect in every box cost them hundreds.

thanks,

managed to find some free previews and gave a quick read, gives hope for the nextbox.

MS are no amateurs anymore.
 
Welp, dual GPUs and hardware ray tracing confirmed.

8 gb was coming from multiple reliable sources, we all thought it was really happening.
12 GB, ray tracing, dual gpu, always sounded like fanboy wishful thinking in response to ps4 unveiling.

would be happy if ms had a much more powerful beast on 21, but I'm not counting on it, slight over clocking and maybe even 12 GB can make sense, especially if Durango indeed reserves 3 for os.
anything more than that is doubtful IMHO.
 
Even though i don´t have a 360, i really love new reveals, and i am very exited for MS´s reveal. Especially since competition in the console business is good for us consumers. MS had a lot of forward thinking policies that benefited the gaming industry like revolutionizing online on consoles. I am exited to see what they will think of next. I am expecting the OS to be very intelligent and efficient and has a shit tonne of features.
I feel the same way. Even though i lean towards MS, I have a PS3 , and I appreciate it very much.

Nothing will change next gen. I will own both. I just think when it comes to online, I will still play nextbox more.
 
So major Nelson basically said that for the past few years they've forgotten about the hardcore and now they need people to preach about their product so they're going back to the hardcore?

That's just silly. Sony said that this time it's all about the gamers.

That's not them "admitting" they didn't care or ignored them. It's simply verification that the focus is games right now.
 
8 gb was coming from multiple reliable sources, we all thought it was really happening.
12 GB, ray tracing, dual gpu, always sounded like fanboy wishful thinking in response to ps4 unveiling.

would be happy if ms had a much more powerful beast on 21, but I'm not counting on it, slight over clocking and maybe even 12 GB can make sense, especially if Durango indeed reserves 3 for os.
anything more than that is doubtful IMHO.
you forgot about the 16 core CPU rumor
 
So major Nelson basically said that for the past few years they've forgotten about the hardcore and now they need people to preach about their product so they're going back to the hardcore?

No, he is saying other video apps on XBL are for the whole family while Machinima is for core gamers. That's all
 
It's amazing that MS are the last to confirm their console despite having the oldest current gen system. No doubt they will blow the lid wide open because unlike Sony they have both eyes on the next gen. Most of the innovations this gen were MS doing so I'm curious if they can one-up Sony again, seriously Sony really brought the heat with it's social features like share/stream and such imo. Game wise MS have A LOT to prove, they have been sitting on RARE for so long so we better see what they have been up to.
 
It's amazing that MS are the last to confirm their console despite having the oldest current gen system. No doubt they will blow the lid wide open because unlike Sony they have both eyes on the next gen. Most of the innovations this gen was MS doing so I'm curious of they can one-up Sony again, seriously Sony really brought the heat with it's social features on PS4 imo. Game wise MS have A LOT to prove, they have been sitting on RARE for so long so we better see what they have been up to.

what was the last game Rare released on the Xbox 360? They must have a lot cooking up for Xbox Durango!
 
So major Nelson basically said that for the past few years they've forgotten about the hardcore and now they need people to preach about their product so they're going back to the hardcore?


He said that? I took that as a middle finger to all the haters who want to portray Nextbox as a DVR box.
 
12 GB, ray tracing, dual gpu, always sounded like fanboy wishful thinking in response to ps4 unveiling.

That gave me laugh. Far out, I missed that rumour somehow. Man imagine the megatons that would go down if MS announced a system more powerful than the PS4.

No servers would be powerful enough to contain the fanboy response on NeoGAF. It'd be golden.

All Im at least hoping for is suprises. Things we didnt see coming. Anything.

This would be cool and would justify my beer and snack investment for the 21st. Awesome avatar btw
 
another XBOX? Cool, wondered why there was so many "only on XBOX" avy on off topic. one on mine would look...trollish?!? haha


Just give me Dance Central and a couple of Bioware games and Im good
 
what was the last game Rare released on the Xbox 360? They must have a lot cooking up for Xbox Durango!

Last full game was Kinect Sports in 2010. They partially worked on 2 with Big Park.

Before that they were churning out 2 retail games every 2 years.

They really should have a LOT to show.
 
I'm starting to think the vg leaks specs are wrong. It just doesn't make sense that Sony would announce first if their competitions specs were lack luster. I'm probably reading into this too much but it just didn't make sense for them to have a surprise unveiling if their stuff was so good they could have went point by point in making the Xbox look weak. I'm sure these company's knew each others specs. They must have felt a need to get out the gate before Microsoft.
 
8 gb was coming from multiple reliable sources, we all thought it was really happening.
12 GB, ray tracing, dual gpu, always sounded like fanboy wishful thinking in response to ps4 unveiling.

would be happy if ms had a much more powerful beast on 21, but I'm not counting on it, slight over clocking and maybe even 12 GB can make sense, especially if Durango indeed reserves 3 for os.
anything more than that is doubtful IMHO.



Wait, what? Those rumors were going around way before the PS4 unveil.
 
Last full game was Kinect Sports in 2010. They partially worked on 2 with Big Park.

Before that they were churning out 2 retail games every 2 years.

They really should have a LOT to show.

They did tweet back in Feb about wishing they could show off some of the "Jaw Dropping" stuff they are working on.
 
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