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Lol his twitter deleted any mention on his profile as an EA Sports Engineer XD

He did that so it doesn't look like he represents the ideologies of EA. I say look, because we all know the truth. He's not going to be fired, this is not a sign of him being fired.

 

[Uncle Rupee]

Feels kinda bad since he has a little kid and all.

With the way EA fires people he probably didn't have many years left at the company anyway

 

[StevieP]

It might have if the Wii would've actually had some fun games to play, but it didn't and now even the Nintendo faithful are weary of buying the system if the only games it's ever going to get are first party.

It was a bad strategy and it backfired. I truly feel this will end with Nintendo either burying the system virtual boy style and starting fresh, or exiting full size home consoles all together, handhelds they will probably keep.

If your bread and butter is games, as it has been with Nintendo for over a decade, then they should just go 3rd party and put Mario, etc, on the sony and microsoft consoles. They'd make a freaking killing.

The irony is that you called people with avatars out as fanboys.

 

[blu]

This thread is like 32 pages. It's hard to follow. Sorry if you feel ignored. Are you an industry analyst? Do you have insider knowledge of Nintendo and their financial goals and plans?

How in the holy hell would you be able to say why Nintendo can or can't go 3rd party?

Are you Iwatas wife or something?

Well, apparently you are.

 

[Meelow]

Well here's his Linkedin page fellow GAFfer:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/bob-summerwill/6b/261/73b

That's sad.

 

[freddy]

This thread is like 32 pages. It's hard to follow. Sorry if you feel ignored. Are you an industry analyst? Do you have insider knowledge of Nintendo and their financial goals and plans?

How in the holy hell would you be able to say why Nintendo can or can't go 3rd party?

Are you Iwatas wife or something?

Dude wtf is wrong with you?

 

[KojiKnight]

Something tells me EA will soon be having a seminar on proper online conduct... Maybe they can get a good recommendation from Microsoft.

 

[Camp Lo]

Can we not paste his linkedin account and picture everywhere please.

that shit is where proverbial blame is shifted to GAF, if it hasn't already.

 

[OrangeJulius]

No it means Sega games don't sell on xbox box and ps3 due to the fan base why do you think Nintendo will magically do significantly better. They'll do better but likely not to the degree that it'd be worth it.

You realize that if there was no Nintendo hardware to buy, then the Nintendo fans would have no choice but to buy the games on those consoles. Hence suddenly sales. I'm not sure you are thinking this through.

Sonic and Sega franchises in general have NOWHERE near the following that say, a Mario or other Nintendo franchise has.

Do you dispute that?

 

[PdotMichael]

Are people really thinking he lost his job now?

 

[China Dont Care]

Why would he get fired, they have no games coming to it.

 

[The_Monk]

Can we not paste his linkedin account and picture everywhere please.

that shit is where proverbial blame is shifted to GAF, if it hasn't already.

Fellow GAFfer and Mod Nirolak posted it in the start of thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57977406&postcount=73

It has been posted waaaay early fellow GAFfer.

 

[spekkeh]

You underestimate the Nintendo diehard. As long as a Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon game is being made, the fans will still be there.

Meh, I used to be a Nintendo diehard from the NES until halfway into the Wii. Even diehards can tire of the same thing being done over and over. Nintendo used to be synonymous with high quality inventiveness, that's what made Nintendo diehards diehard in the first place. Now it's either quirky but forgettable or quality but a rehash. They probably thought that if it worked for the likes of Activision and EA, it would work for them. But the people who are e.g. CoD diehards don't value inventiveness, so serialization works a lot better for that.

 

[Tookay]

This thread is like 32 pages. It's hard to follow. Sorry if you feel ignored. Are you an industry analyst? Do you have insider knowledge of Nintendo and their financial goals and plans?

How in the holy hell would you be able to say why Nintendo can or can't go 3rd party?

Are you Iwatas wife or something?

Nintendo makes lot of their money off of hardware and licensing. Having the resources and freedom of a platform owner is what allows them to make those games and give them the time and resources necessary for that quality.

Nintendo already stumbled trying to expand and update development for HD hardware that they designed for themselves, with companies pulled off projects to help out and huge droughts in their first-party output. Imagine them suddenly having to upgrade yet again while losing the resources and freedom afforded by being a hardware owner. We rightfully grumble about Pikmin 3 taking an extra 9 months of development, but imagine a world in which every team that would even be able to work on a fan favorite unguaranteed venture like Pikmin is devoted to simply making sure that they can ship 3D Mario 2015 on schedule.

There, I did a search history for you.

And he's right btw.

 

[sibarraz]

The other thing was that SEGA was in a big debt, so in the end they had to stop making consoles, nintendo even though is still losing money still has a good bank thanks to the wii u days, plus the 3ds, in order for nintendo to go third party, they will need to fail in both consoles and portables to die.

About the EA guy, well, don't know what to say, maybe EA will punish him but I doubt that this goes to a major thing

 

[Tempy]

This thread is like 32 pages. It's hard to follow. Sorry if you feel ignored. Are you an industry analyst? Do you have insider knowledge of Nintendo and their financial goals and plans?

How in the holy hell would you be able to say why Nintendo can or can't go 3rd party?

Are you Iwatas wife or something?

Are you going to reply to every post like that?

 

[EmCeeGramr]

This thread is like 32 pages. It's hard to follow. Sorry if you feel ignored. Are you an industry analyst? Do you have insider knowledge of Nintendo and their financial goals and plans?

How in the holy hell would you be able to say why Nintendo can or can't go 3rd party?

Are you Iwatas wife or something?

Please don't insult me for no reason.

I merely pointed out that a multibillion dollar electronics corporation with thousands of employees, dozens of studios and properties, completely abandoning its business and the practices it built itself on after 30 years is a pretty messy process that isn't done lightly or easily, especially in a market like this.

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

why are EA so salty? are numbers down or something?

 

[LeleSocho]

Feels kinda bad since he has a little kid and all.

You would think a father would be a little smarter than putting himself at risk like this but it's entirely it's fault if something happens (which i don't think it'll happens) especially after recent events.

 

[fluffydelusions]

With the way EA fires people he probably didn't have many years left at the company anyway

Well he's been there for 12 years apparently.

 

[KojiKnight]

He did that so it doesn't look like he represents the ideologies of EA. I say look, because we all know the truth. He's not going to be fired, this is not a sign of him being fired.

It may or it may not... At the very least he's probably going to get reamed by his superiors, and we've already had SEVERAL examples in the last few years of just things like this getting someone fired.

I hope he doesn't get fired for it just like I hoped what's-his-face over at microsoft didn't get fired... but my god, that was only like a month ago... how does someone that big in the industry not pay attention to industry news?

 

[vctor182]

The only games I really think sold that well are the original, OoT, and maybe ALttP.

Twilight Princess too. Zelda has lost it, hopefully the new 3DS and WiiU Zelda's can regain its selling power

 

[passthatish]

Weaker than 360 you say? Ah, this will be good.

I know I am late, but this reply made me LOL for real.
Perfection.

 

[10k]

This EA/NINTENDO battle just keeps on giving!

 

[fluffydelusions]

You would think a father would be a little smarter than putting himself at risk like this

Yeah perhaps you are right but I'm sure he didn't think it would catch on by big sites. I mean guy only has 40 something followers who are probably just friends and coworkers anyway.

 

[ciridesu]

Fellow GAFfer and Mod Nirolak posted it in the start of thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57977406&postcount=73

It has been posted waaaay early fellow GAFfer.

I am aware of that, and do not necessarily agree with the initial link either (also note that he didn't link a picture). The guy just made two comments that don't stand out AT ALL from what many others are thinking, and thus doesn't deserve his face to be plastered on every page of a big forum. I'm not arguing against the discussion about his comment, and such. But let the man have his privacy. He hasn't done much if any wrong.

 

[vctor182]

Yeah... fifteen years ago.

Yes, on a console that sold 26-28 millions

 

[OrangeJulius]

Please don't insult me for no reason.

I merely pointed out that a multibillion dollar electronics corporation with thousands of employees, dozens of studios and properties, completely abandoning its business and the practices it built itself on after 30 years is a pretty messy process that isn't done lightly or easily, especially in a market like this.

Nobody said it was easy. You all keep pointing to Nintendos overflowing bank account and act like that money can't bleed dry in less than a decade.

Businesses go bankrupt all the time that were at one point stocked with cash and employees. Why are you acting like it can't happen to Nintendo?

And please, I didn't insult you. You acted dramatic like I somehow ignored your important post.

 

[Projectjustice]

This thread is epic! lol

 

[wsippel]

Feels kinda bad since he has a little kid and all.

He should give his former colleague Aaron Walker a call - maybe he'll get a job at Retro Studios.

Yes, it's cynic. But at the end of the day, burning bridges is a really stupid idea in this industry. Because you'll never know how long you'll last. :-/

 

[Froli]

The story is going viral now. He'll probably get in trouble for this, but not as bad like Adam Orth's getting fired.

 

[Kevtones]

The dude represents EA. It doesn't matter what party he said things about. He said them unprofessionally and even belittled his own company's platform (Origin).


Doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, it shows disunity in the organization and is a really poor decision.

 

[GravityMan]

I think companies need to have an orientation for all employees about conduct on social media, and clearly communicate repercussions (up to and including termination) if behavioral violations occur. This is like the 500th time someone in a professional occupation made ill-advised comments that brought negative PR on his or her company.

This guy may keep his job...if only due to his senior standing and value within the company. If so, he should consider himself lucky. That said, this fool may have just obliterated any chances of him advancing any higher-up at Electronic Arts or elsewhere.

Also, it doesn't matter whether EA has an active partnership with Nintendo or not. It is unwise for individual employees to burn bridges and/or bring bad PR upon themselves and their company, period.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Nobody said it was easy. You all keep pointing to Nintendos overflowing bank account and act like that money can't bleed dry in less than a decade.

Businesses go bankrupt all the time that were at one point stocked with cash and employees. Why are you acting like it can't happen to Nintendo?

I'm not. That's my point.

A Nintendo driven into third party status by financial ruin is not going to be "all my Mario Galaxies and favorite Zeldas games, better than ever but on modern hardware!" It will be a worse Nintendo with fewer games at a lower quality (or barely a handful of games at decent quality), taking even less risks, relying on the same franchises even more than it already does, while struggling even more to keep up techwise. Contrary to popular belief, Nintendo pays a bunch of employees money to make lots and lots of good video games, sometimes at a leisurely pace that other companies would kill for in order to ensure quality.

 

[iNvid02]

if there was ever a service that needed a "OH SHIT UNDO THAT PLEASE" button its twitter

 

[CrunchinJelly]

The story is going viral now. He'll probably get in trouble for this, but not as bad like Adam Orth's getting fired.

Why would he get in trouble?

EA have no investment in the Wii U market going forward. They have no reason to save face.

 

[dacuk]

This thread is like 32 pages. It's hard to follow. Sorry if you feel ignored. Are you an industry analyst? Do you have insider knowledge of Nintendo and their financial goals and plans?

How in the holy hell would you be able to say why Nintendo can or can't go 3rd party?

Are you Iwatas wife or something?

You are doing wonders for your junior status, bro.

 

[nick nacc]

Haha. Nintendo is just......idk. Defend your system boys.

 

[PdotMichael]

This guy may keep his job...if only due to his senior standing and value within the company. If so, he should consider himself lucky. That said, this fool may have just obliterated any chances of him advancing any higher-up at Electronic Arts or elsewhere.

You overrate this thing way too much.

 

[Camilos]

Well here's his Linkedin page fellow GAFfer:

Why post a direct link to his LinkedIn account? Why didn't you just post the screenshot? What exactly are you trying to achieve by doing this?

 

[big_erk]

If your bread and butter is games, as it has been with Nintendo for over a decade, then they should just go 3rd party and put Mario, etc, on the sony and microsoft consoles. They'd make a freaking killing.

First of all Nintendo has been in the video game business in one form or another for the last 40 years, not just the last decade. Second, this whole Nintendo needs to go third party crap needs to stop. It's not going to happen any time in the near future.

 

[Beetleking11]

We should fire next Iwata.. nah Just kidding..

 

[Principate]

You realize that if there was no Nintendo hardware to buy, then the Nintendo fans would have no choice but to buy the games on those consoles. Hence suddenly sales. I'm not sure you are thinking this through.

Sonic and Sega franchises in general have NOWHERE near the following that say, a Mario or other Nintendo franchise has.

Do you dispute that?

Do you think there's only two options for people to play games on? There's the pc which is entirely uncharted territory for Nintendo for which a large proportion can move to and then there's people that won't not bother with consoles (Nintendo is family orientated people may not buy not necessarily buy the more mature consoles that are generally more expensive from the onset e.g the reasonably large proportion of families that own a Wii but nothing else.

There's also the fact the Sonic brand dropped significantly outside of Mario and Sonic post dream cast.

Nintendo consoles have also traditionally been very profitable in comparison to their competition who are still in the console race.

 

[Coloress_Kafka]

It would be crazy to axe this guy because of his comments. Peter Moore said far worse things about Sony when working at Sega and MS and it didn't stop EA from hiring him. They just brushed it all under the rug, if EA wants to work with Nintendo again they will just do the same thing.

The guy has been working there for 14 years according to his LinkedIn profile, EA shouldn't throw away someone with that much experience.

 

[wsippel]

Why would he get in trouble?

EA have no investment in the Wii U market going forward. They have no reason to save face.

There's a difference between not walking over bridges and burning them.

 

[OrangeJulius]

I'm not. That's my point.

A Nintendo driven into third party status by financial ruin is not going to be "all my Mario Galaxies and favorite Zeldas games, better than everbut on modern hardware!" It will be a worse Nintendo with fewer games at a lower quality (or barely a handful of games at decent quality), taking even less risks, relying on the same franchises even more than it already does.

Your post is full of assumptions. You assume the games would somehow turn to garbage. Let's not pretend that Mario Galaxy is some multi million dollar blockbuster that takes a staff of hundreds and 5 years to make.

 

[Meelow]

Why would he get in trouble?

EA have no investment in the Wii U market going forward. They have no reason to save face.

Because that could change, this could burn bridges and if Nintendo and EA finally stop this stupid war than Nintendo fans might feel hurt by EA's comments from before and not support if they start supporting again.

 

[Camp Lo]

Why post a direct link to his LinkedIn account? Why didn't you just post the screenshot? What exactly are you trying to achieve by doing this?

A mod posted this previously, not that it answers your question. Just putting it into context.

 

[Nibel]

This thread is like 32 pages. It's hard to follow. Sorry if you feel ignored. Are you an industry analyst? Do you have insider knowledge of Nintendo and their financial goals and plans?

How in the holy hell would you be able to say why Nintendo can or can't go 3rd party?

Are you Iwatas wife or something?

This is how a self-acclaimed adult writes people

 

[orbkeller]

Bad publicity for EA.

no such thing as bad publicity