answering questions. yeah, dude should be run out of town.
EA Sports Engineer: Wii U is crap, < powerful than 360. No $ 3party. [Tweets Deleted]
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answering questions. yeah, dude should be run out of town.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Man this is SO bad it looks like an onion video.
Call Me Maybe
Banned
I don't know, I'm pretty diehard towards Nintendo, and I don't have a single positive thing to say about the Wii U, nor do I intend on buying one anytime soon.
You are talking about diehards? EVERY group has diehards. Using diehards to brand an entire group makes no sense, though.
Tragicomedy
Member
He needs to lawyer up, hit the gym, and delete Facebook (Twitter).
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Making an off hand twitter and then seeing the news stories pop up would be equal parts hilarious and terrifying.
fallingdove
Member
If my position was that I only cared about 1st party support, I wouldn't give a damn what 3rd parties said. Not too mention that 3rd party support has been awful since the n64 so there should be some level of desensitization present with Nintendo fans.
The fuck?
What is far-fetched about what I'm saying?
EA is routinely criticized for its anti-consumer practices, from always online to Project $10 DLC plans.
I'm not talking about a conspiracy, I'm talking about their corporate subculture and how it's arguably worse than the supposedly "tyrannical" Nintendo.
You're reaching if you're trying to call me a hypocrite. Do you even know what you're arguing about anymore?
Fifa 13 sold more than 12 million copies. It's a huge blow for the Wii U for not having at least a Fifa game. EA made their decision, it's unfortunate, but what can you do?
TheDrowningMan
Member
The head of Crytek alluded to issues when talking about the (functional) Wii U port that EA suddenly decided to nix.
Even if EA did put "all their eggs in one basket", and they chose that basket to be FIFA, they'd be absolutely fine.
FIFA isn't going to stop selling anytime soon and it absolutely isn't going to experience the same sort of collapse as Guitar Hero or what some still believe is going to happen to COD (and we're still waiting for this mythical event to happen). FIFA has always sold huge, huge numbers. Even during the PS2 era when it was fucking crap and a grossly inferior game to Pro Evolution Soccer, it outsold PES every year.
I don't think there's a safer bet or a more guaranteed seller in the industry right now than FIFA.
Call Me Maybe
Banned
Maybe people only care for first party games because there is no third party software to write home about on a Nintendo system? Food for thought. Did the egg come first or the chicken?
Carpe Diem
Banned
And what R these deficiencies you speak about?
Pretend you are reading Foxnews.com
PdotMichael
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whining that someone is not nice to Nintendo is more important than asking him some technical questions.
Crash Station
Member
I see this is growing at an Orth level. People need to stop using Twitter apparently.
Brad Grenz
Member
Many aren't handling the near certainty that the Durango is less powerful than the PS4 very well, but nothing there approaches the level of delusion we saw in the WUST where specs revealed by Iwata himself were called into question as improbable.
Wouldn't it?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Whoever wins, we lose.
Nintendo should do a Sega and bring their sports sims in-house. It didn't take long for Sega's 2K sports series to outdo EA Sports with better review scores across the board.
They could bring back the NBA Courtside series. Let NST do that. Then get Retro studios working on an NFL game. If I remember correctly EA's NFL exclusivity agreement doesn't cover 1st party games.
Well as I mentioned Sony actually reached out to 3rd parties. Who knows what back alley dicks they are sucking to get games on Vita, whereas Nintendo seems too proud to suck a little dick.
Call Me Maybe
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Nintendo first party sports games?
Mario Soccer, Mario Football, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Basketball, Mario Baseball, Mario Cricket all incoming :/
Shaded polygons on a < 1MHz MOS Technology 6502 (NES, Atari 2600, Commodore C64): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVPW40ygds4
So much for EA's bizarre definition of generations I guess...
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That has nothing to do with this argument I'm talking about if fifa can save ea not about the wii u's loss of course it's a potential loss. But Ea has been unprofitable for a long ass time and is putting it's eggs in one basket. This could easily blow up in their face.
OrangeJulius
Member
You don't think that Nintendo, coming off of two consoles that were relative flops, compared to the competition of the time anyway, would be in a very bad place financially if the Wii had met the same fate? People in 2005 were talking about how Nintendo would transition to 3rd party just like Sega.
theman5141
Neo Member
Both sides are at fault, I will admit. That being said, I feel it is a moot point. These overreactions should not be occurring. Period. The emotional investment by all involved parties is neither healthy nor productive. Consoles simply aren't as financially solvent as they once were, and zealots should probably brace themselves for the inevitable impact.
NHL 2K3 is still better hockey game than any of EA's offerings.
Call Me Maybe
Banned
Truth? Where's the truth? Please point out the objective 'truth' in those Tweets. Notably, truth as differentiated from 'personal opinion.'
This has become theater.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Yes, this tweet definitely proves that the rift between Nintendo and EA is solely the result of the sober analysis of the sales of a late Mass Effect port. Nothing else to see here. Move along.
Haha damn. I actually only saw 2 of his tweets. The whole package is even worse. And why the gen 4 thing? Is EA that bitter that they're even going to deny the existence of consoles before Playstation?
Portugeezer
Member
Few say it because it's probably not true.
Carpe Diem
Banned
All Nintendo needs to do is secure PES support. They need NOTHING from EA. PES is much better than FIFA all the same.
Completely unprofessional but videogames industry is devoid of any type of decorum so I don't expect anything less. What he said might be true but it's unnecessary. He seems to come off really bitter towards Nintendo. He's like an adult that never got out of that high school petty hate teenager mentality.
Call Me Maybe
Banned
It really isn't.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Are we talking about the same company of games like The Sims and Sim City?. Are you forgetting Popcap games? and their whole mobile games?
What you are saying is not acording with the actual market. 3DS won't get the same numbers as DS and mobile gaming is becoming a real problem. Wii U is losing money like 3DS had to lose money too for months. You're talking about other times. Is not the same situation anymore as years ago. Yeah, they had a lot of money in the bank, dosn't mean that with the changes of the market is sustainable anymore.
I mean their whole model remains in the sole idea of:"Will this console sell enough?". Once it dosn't sell their whole model shakes.
EmCeeGramr
Member
They wouldn't be in a great position, but they wouldn't be anywhere near Sega levels. What people on the Internet were saying in 2005 hardly matters anyway. Fighting games and 2D platformers were a dead genre, PC gaming was dying out, the PS3 was going to rock the Xbox 180 with real next-gen graphics, and Nintendo's toy wand would doom them.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
NBA Courtside, Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball, Football, True Swing Golf, Soccer.
NST, Next Level would both be decent fits. Who else though?
Yup but all these expert says its only about WiiU current sales, lets ignore canceled games before launch
Jesus Christ I'm dying.
Does Konami even support the Wii U?
fallingdove
Member
It doesnt matter how the fans arrived at the stage - if they only care about first party games, comments like EAs shouldn't matter.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I doubt FOX engine runs on Wii U.
Did you play PES and FIFA on Wii? It really was.
But no one claimed that the Wii U will succeed going as is. No one. Not a single Nintendo fan, fanboy, or even casual gamer would claim that. Hell Nintendo wouldn't. Where are you even getting the faint idea that ANYONE at all thinks Nintendo can continue the way things are right now and be happy about the results?
But yes the money Nintendo has pocketed and is continuing to pocket from the handheld market ALLOWS them to fail with the WiiU and try again the next cycle. Sega did not have this luxury so they were at their end, desperate, and had to go 3rd party. That isn't Nintendo's only or last option. And while no one thinks (myself included), that Nintendo will magically regain the top spot this cycle, they can improve the current state of the WiiU starting this fall by simply releasing the games they haven't yet.
Also maybe I am alone but why is GAF being blamed for a witch hunt. No one forced him to write what he wrote. I don't care that he feels that way, he has every right to as many here do to but as a professional in the industry he also has to know there might be consequences for putting it out publicly. Maybe EA doesn't care and hell I don't want this guy fired. But at most people here are pointing out HE MIGHT get fired. Not that he should or that we should organize an actual witch hunt. If he gets fired it will be because he put his comments in a very poor form on twitter, which then got picked up by media outlets, and EA cared enough to let him go.
I'd like one good football game at least. Fifa 13 was garbage on Wii U. Let's go Konami.
Well, that's not a fair comparison though. Microsoft is KNOWN as being company that continually pushes the technological barrier in their products, so it would be expected that if they release a hardware product that it's going to have some degree of power to it.
Nintendo is NOT a company that is known for pushing the tech envelope, so it should really have been no surprise that they decided to release a competent, but not incredibly powerful console so that they could focus on the Gamepad instead.