EA Sports Engineer: Wii U is crap, < powerful than 360. No $ 3party. [Tweets Deleted]

OrangeJulius said:
You can't possibly say "oh since this happened to Sega it happened to Nintendo".

That's a very poor argument.
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Dave Meltzer said:
Plenty of times they don't.

But that isn't really a valid argument, because it's implying the games that are ported are pushing the 360 to its limit every time. Is there a game on Wii U that looks as good as the best looking 360 game? Until there is we can't say it's as powerful.
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Direct comparisons between ports are better because the "best looking game" on either system is entirely subjective (well, that and that graphical ability is not the sole factor at play in this comparison)
 
OrangeJulius said:
Yes, they have been profitable because they are selling old tech at inflated prices and now that practice is biting them in the ass.
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The Wii U is sold at a loss, and I don't exactly see how anything pre-Wii was "old tech". What you said pretty much only applies to the Wii.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
It's taking Nintendo months longer than usual just to support the 3DS and a "modern" HD system. There were huge droughts for the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U while they had to actually make games. Games for hardware less advanced and more familiar to Nintendo than next-gen third party hardware.

Pikmin took an extra year to complete.

Mario Kart needed help from Retro.

Monolith had to pull double duty on Skyward Sword.

Third parties and second parties had to help Nintendo transition into HD.

Nintendo is relying more and more on nostalgic sure fire hits, though still managing to release "middle class" retail games and smaller digital titles thanks to its wealth of developers and resources.

EA has cut its losses on anything that isn't a huge seller.

Ubisoft is right behind them, declaring that they're going to focus more and more on their core IPs like Assassin's Creed with more frequent releases.

Sega has openly abandoned the major retail sphere for anything that isn't Sonic, Football Manager, or Total War.




Nintendo could transition into third party development, if its entire business philosophy and leadership changed overnight and it began preparing for an exit that would take place three or four years from now and worked overtime in a flexible manner. Nothing is impossible. But there is a pattern here and business realities involved here.
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That's all the point I was trying to make, they COULD do it. Let me simply ask you this. Do you see the WiiU succeeding at the rate it's going? Do you think the money Nintendo has pocketed now will last if they don't get this system going?
 
jaosobno said:
So, let's see:

1. EA loathes Nintendo/WiiU. Everyone knows that. They even currently aren't making any games for the system. Fuck, WiiU isn't even getting the next FIFA (which is pathetic since everyone at least gets FIFA).

2. An EA software engineer says this negative stuff about Nintendo/WiiU (also known as "the truth") and people think he will get fired? An EA engineer? His company can't stand Nintendo, if anything they might give this guy a promotion for following company policy towards Nintendo to the letter.
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I would certainly hope that EA would not promote open hostility and vilifying behavior towards another company. ESPECIALLY Nintendo, considering that they aren't even a competitor.
 
Dave Meltzer said:
Plenty of times they don't.

But that isn't really a valid argument, because it's implying the games that are ported are pushing the 360 to its limit every time. Is there a game on Wii U that looks as good as the best looking 360 game? Until there is we can't say it's as powerful.
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Now apply that same logic to the Wii U.
 
Weaker CPU maybe. Stronger in all other regards that I've seen.

NeoGAF doesn't get people fired, they've done that themselves by making public statements. What are we supposed to do, lock the thread and censor the internet whenever someone says something stupid on twitter?
 
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KojiKnight said:
Depends on how big it blows up really... If the gaming press doesn't have much to cover, they may focus in on these comments. If enough pick up the story, it could cost him his job. That said, if they aren't interested in making a story out of it, he'll be fine.
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"To further this, if this thread makes it to 10+ pages, it'll start hitting the little websites... then it has a chance of "going viral" and if it does, at the very least this guy will likely be forced to make an appology."

I'm thinking if he still has a job, the apology is guaranteed at this point... If not, I still wish him the best... no one should be fired for an errant comment... unfortunately, people use twitter like you're talking in a room with friends. In reality, you're talking in a room with strangers who all have tape recorders and know who you work for.
 
OrangeJulius said:
That's all the point I was trying to make, they COULD do it. Let me simply ask you this. Do you see the WiiU succeeding at the rate it's going? Do you think the money Nintendo has pocketed now will last if they don't get this system going?
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At the rate it's going now? No. (I don't think it's going to suddenly do gangbusters as soon as it finally has games, either) Do I see their money lasting? It depends on a lot of factors. If they actually make a Wii U into an overall profitable venture then even if it sputters to GameCube-esque numbers they could quietly ramp it down in three or four years and kill it and be able to make another console, this time looking back and trying a different direction again.
 
This whole ordeal makes the industry look bad in every way. Developers act like children on twitter, journalists run with the stories and sensationalize them, and everyone in general just acts like a bunch of babies.
 
PdotMichael said:
If Nintendo doesn't want to work with EA again because of some tweets. Well, no surprise the WiiU dosn't get any games.

The entire industry says bad things about the WiiU right now. And it's not that Nintendo wasn't not a big asshole to the third parties in the past.
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Nintendo stopped being an asshole a long time ago - though some dudes apparently never got the memo. Still, if I was in charge of Nintendo, I'd sip expensive wine watching EA crash and burn at this point. Let them die and pick up the remnants - the company as a whole is beyond salvation.
 
RoombaDance said:
Weaker CPU maybe. Stronger in all other regards that I've seen.

NeoGAF doesn't get people fired, they've done that themselves by making public statements. What are we supposed to do, lock the thread and censor the internet whenever someone says something stupid on twitter?
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The bandwidth on the RAM is worse.
 
OrangeJulius said:
You could make a strong argument that Segas first party games were largely crap long before they exited hardware. They made a few Sonic games that were critically loved and not much else. Sega never had the first party chops that Nintendo had. You can't compare the two.

You can't possibly say "oh since this happened to Sega it happened to Nintendo".

That's a very poor argument.
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Now you are just moving the goal post. Sega was very successful company that when under not cause of their games because of their hardware decisions. Not only are you moving the goal post, you are moving it in the wrong direction.
 
OrangeJulius said:
That's all the point I was trying to make, they COULD do it. Let me simply ask you this. Do you see the WiiU succeeding at the rate it's going? Do you think the money Nintendo has pocketed now will last if they don't get this system going?
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They could do it. His point is, it dosn't make sense to do it.

It would leave in shambles the whole company from months to years with the possibility of not finding the market they hope for.

It makes more sense for Nintendo to keep trying on the hardware market. Without their own hardware Nintendo won't exists as we know it.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
At the rate it's going now? No. Do I see their money lasting? It depends on a lot of factors. If they actually make a Wii U into a profitable venture then even if it sputters to GameCube-esque numbers they could quietly ramp it down in three or four years and kill it and be able to make another console.
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Ok, now where getting somewhere. Where do you think Nintendo would be right now, at this moment if the Wii didn't have the success it did? For example, let's hypothetically say the Wii sputtered like the Cube did.
 
Pancakes R Us said:
This. I've had every Nintendo system since SNES at launch, but just couldn't stomach Wii U. I suspect that there are a lot of people like me in this regard. I think the true blue Nintendo fans who did buy it at launch though, are a lot more hardcore in terms of Nintendo. I'm just part of the drop off, and I think that drop off will continue.
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Yep. Exactly how I feel too. This could be one of Nintendos biggest console failures.
 
wsippel said:
Nintendo stopped being an asshole a long time ago - though some dudes apparently never got the memo. Still, if I was in charge of Nintendo, I'd sip expensive wine watching EA crash and burn at this point. Let them die and pick up the remnants - the company as a whole is beyond salvation.
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Whatever do you mean? Their financial outlook is amazing ;)
 
All this talk is giving me feels to get a Wii U to play ZombieU (and ZombieU 2, Bayonetta2) !

And I really should be playing CS GO because it's FREE Weekend and I'm missing gameplay time =/
 
I wonder if there's any truth to his statement that the Wii U is less powerful than the 360. As a software engineer / architect, wouldn't he know this kind of stuff?
 
rain elbows said:
They don't run on par with 360.
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They run better in a couple of cases cases, and often in between the 360 / PS3 versions; Wii U was not the lead platform in any case. Architecture is substantially different, so it's either the easiest hardware of all time or it's not as horrible as many have convinced themselves.

Black Ops 2 finally shares the same resolution as the 360 / Wii U version...occasionally (it's dynamic), but it's taken six years. Assassin's Creed took, I think, four tries on PS3 before the resolution could match the 360 version. The Wii U version had a slightly inferior frame rate (which has been improved with patches) at launch; again, not the lead platform.

At the very least, the evidence suggests that both 360 and Wii U are a good half-gen ahead of the PS3 if you want to use unthinking, agenda-driven piffle. It also tells you that Wii U is maxed out from launch and, perhaps, that the 360's most technologically advanced games came in 2005.
 
Maybe he was the source that made EA the worst company in America and Barry Sanders hacked his twitter as part of his Madden contract?
 
OrangeJulius said:
Ok, now where getting somewhere. Where do you think Nintendo would be right now, at this moment if the Wii didn't have the success it did? For example, let's hypothetically say the Wii sputtered like the Cube did.
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Like with the same profit levels they had during the Cube? Exactly the same place, I guess?

What's your point?
 
Samurai_Heart said:
I know that, never implied he was getting fired, just noticed he got rid of his twitter profile bio.
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As a result, people are quoting your post, and are putting out their sympathies a little too prematurely. Regardless of whether you didn't say anything, people are now going off on wild tangents regarding his employment status.

Ugh, I can only feel for this man.

IGN, might ruin this man's career, but will consequently make him a martyr. It can go either way now.
 
Holy Crap said:
How is this NOT job ending at this point with IGN and GS coverage? Good lord this shit spread like wildfire
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For toeing the company line in a blunt fashion? This isn't the Adam Orth case where potential customers for their next big product get insulted. EA isn't going to lose customers over this, as they aren't even releasing games for the Wii U.
 
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