EA Sports Engineer: Wii U is crap, < powerful than 360. No $ 3party. [Tweets Deleted]

I sincerely hope this guy get fired and never find a job in this industry. This is my opinion as well just like his. Amen.

I don't get it? "This guys is mean to Nintendo and doesn't like them, I hope he can never work in games again" GROW UP!
 
I think Nintendo would be better off as a company since Iwata is hurting the business and brand. Do I want him fired for something he said? Hell no. If someone wants to argue this guy should be fired because he may have harmed EA's business? Thats totally fair. But for saying something that you disagree with? Gtfo.

lol, nice logic
 
He made silly, churlish agenda-driven comments with a lie or two mixed in, but I don't think he should be fired for one error. It's not really a cardinal sin in the grand scheme of things.
 
I'm stunned at the the contents and magnitude of this thread.

All in all... Nintendo is getting what they deserve. The thoughts and feelings of this engineer at EA probably rings true at a lot of other 3rd party developers. And it's all Nintendo's fault.
 
I wonder if this guy will keep his job, dem twitters be nasty yall.



Wii u price drop incoming. I'll take a 250 premium Nintendo. I honestly wonder if we'll see another console from them if things keep going badly or even just plateau to mediocre sales. Or what form their next home console will take, will they try do something competive tech wise? Or go for another big gimmick. With the Wii U seems like they went somewhere in the middle and it doesnt seem to work for either side so far. I'm sure if nothing else they'll be making handhelds for Japan still.




"Will that OJ guy still be posting come E3?" *shake* shake* *shake*


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as someone said people will be people. and you're being too dramatic about it. the other guy's is wishing for EA guy getting fired, you're talking about iwata getting fired. what's the difference.

One is getting fired for being the CEO of a company whose last two products have had TERRIBLE launches, whose newest product is selling at an absolute TERRIBLE disaster level pace. Being the CEO of a company whose stock has crashed and while one reason is the status of the Yen, the other big reason is due to the Wii U. CEO whose console designed in a way where the public has been confused from day one whether it's a new controller for the Wii or a new console. Who despite his promise to not repeat the 3DS launch problems didn't fulfill said promise.

Basically, Iwata has been CEO over two terribly launch products the last couple of years. That is a good enough reason for many CEO's to get canned.

The EA employee didn't harm EA's business in any significant way at all. He stated his opinion via Twitter. An opinion that is shared by countless other people in the industry.

If you HONESTLY can't tell the difference between a CEO mismanaging his company and releasing products that have sold terribly and a single developer who stated his opinion on a matter, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
One is getting fired for being the CEO of a company whose last two products have had TERRIBLE launches, whose newest product is selling at an absolute TERRIBLE disaster level pace. Being the CEO of a company whose stock has crashed and while one reason is the status of the Yen, the other big reason is due to the Wii U. CEO whose console designed in a way where the public has been confused from day one whether it's a new controller for the Wii or a new console. Who despite his promise to not repeat the 3DS launch problems didn't fulfill said promise.

Basically, Iwata has been CEO over two terribly launch products the last couple of years. That is a good enough reason for many CEO's to get canned.

The EA employee didn't harm EA's business in any significant way at all. He stated his opinion via Twitter. An opinion that is shared by countless other people in the industry.

If you HONESTLY can't tell the difference between a CEO mismanaging his company and releasing products that have sold terribly and a single developer who stated his opinion on a matter, then I don't know what to tell you.

as i said you're being too dramatic. what does it matter to you if nintendo goes down. i feel like you are too emotionally invested in nintedo's doom.

the point i was trying to make is you're complaining about someone's hateful emotions, yet you've the same hateful emotions about someone else.
 
One is getting fired for being the CEO of a company whose last two products have had TERRIBLE launches, whose newest product is selling at an absolute TERRIBLE disaster level pace.

Instead of hoping he's fired why don't you instead hope he starts doing a better job?

Because that isn't petty and mean-spirited enough?
 
One is getting fired for being the CEO of a company whose last two products have had TERRIBLE launches, whose newest product is selling at an absolute TERRIBLE disaster level pace. Being the CEO of a company whose stock has crashed and while one reason is the status of the Yen, the other big reason is due to the Wii U. CEO whose console designed in a way where the public has been confused from day one whether it's a new controller for the Wii or a new console. Who despite his promise to not repeat the 3DS launch problems didn't fulfill said promise.

Basically, Iwata has been CEO over two terribly launch products the last couple of years. That is a good enough reason for many CEO's to get canned.

The EA employee didn't harm EA's business in any significant way at all. He stated his opinion via Twitter. An opinion that is shared by countless other people in the industry.

If you HONESTLY can't tell the difference between a CEO mismanaging his company and releasing products that have sold terribly and a single developer who stated his opinion on a matter, then I don't know what to tell you.

Iwata's probably didn't got fired because of the shares he holds in the company, he wouldn't be still there if wasn't for that.

Instead of hoping he's fired why don't you instead hope he starts doing a better job?

Because that isn't petty and mean-spirited enough?

Because the way he thinks about the gaming industry and how he manage the company already proven that he's unable to keep his position?
 
Because the way he thinks about the gaming industry and how he manage the company already proven that he's unable to keep his position?

Well this guy's tweets obviously show he isn't cut out for the game industry since he can't adhere to company policy...right?

Spin more.

It's beyond silly for a guy who regularly spews vitriol and rants about how everyone needs to lose their jobs scold someone else for doing the same.
 
ArchangelWest said:
Today is just a giant circle wank for Nintendo haters.

I look forward to the day that they not only realize that after the first few million Next gen console sales of their favorite company, it will be the same, but probably worse due to price.

Of course by then, the Wii U will likely be even more affordable, and finally have games. Just like the 3DS before it.

Where's the Vita by the way? Oh yeah, still selling like crap after almost 2 years.

Well, that doesn't bode well for anyone.

Now is not the time for partisan console politics. Console gamers need to come together to collectively hate the real scourge on gaming, mobile.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
 
To be honest with you guys, there are a lot of developers/software engineers who thinks the same but they are afraid to speak about it publicly.

i'm with the EA guy when he said wii u weak. he's right. but then it fell apart when he brought nintedo and sega in his comments.
 
Well this guy's tweets obviously show he isn't cut out for the game industry since he can't adhere to company policy...right?

Spin more.

It's beyond silly for a guy who regularly spews vitriol and rants about how everyone needs to lose their jobs scold someone else for doing the same.

My bad. I was actually talking about Iwata.
 
Console gamers need to come together to collectively hate the real scourge on gaming, mobile.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

LOL

you should come check the "what's your most played system in 2013" thread then, where enjoying iPad/iOS games = enjoying crap
 
Does anybody know how to act like a professional in this industry?

Indeed. I mean, we all have strong opinions on a wide variety of topics, but no one ever needs to go spouting off on twitter about them. It's beyond me that this dumb messaging platform continues to get so many people with poor impulse control in trouble.
 
What lie?

Less powerful than 360; only Mario and Zelda sell on the systems. Blatant lies, the first is twisting the truth by a country mile, the latter is just flat out ridiculous since even the Wii had the most sales for 3rd party titles for a number of years (financial reports, not made up wishful thinking like this EA dude) and a healthy number of multi-million sellers: it was just a DIFFERENT market, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't there. EA was just as bad as adapting to the Wii market as it was on the HD twins, not Nintendo's fault there.
 
as i said you're being too dramatic. what does it matter to you if nintendo goes down. i feel like you are too emotionally invested in nintedo's doom.

the point i was trying to make is you're complaining about someone's hateful emotions, yet you've the same hateful emotions about someone else.

Hateful emotions about Iwata? LOL wut? I'm sure Iwata is a very nice man but as a CEO he has harmed Nintendo significantly in the last few years. Nothing hateful about it. I am not hoping he's fired because I want him to suffer or because I disagree with a statement he has made. I want him to be replaced because IMO that is what would help Nintendo.

And you may think I'm emotionally invested in Nintendo's doom, though realize you're wrong. I have purchased every single Nintendo console/handheld outside of the Virtual Boy. I day one'd the 3DS and Wii U and don't regret either purchase. I have repeatedly said that the Wii U is 10x better than the Wii IMO.

My concern is with Nintendo being successful for the next 5, 10, 15, 30+ years. Iwata isn't the guy to help them get there and THAT is why I want him replaced. Nothing to do with 'hateful emotions' which is what the poster who wanted the EA employee fired was displaying.
 
Lol guys, you will be surprise how this type of attitude is common amongs those engineers who work in software industry when you start working with them. There is nothing wrong with his comment. All the time people will keep complain for things like , this code is shit , this hardware is shit and etc. It is not much of the problem. Making a comment does not kill anyone. Especially when it is quite true ...
 
Instead of hoping he's fired why don't you instead hope he starts doing a better job?

Because that isn't petty and mean-spirited enough?

Well this guy's tweets obviously show he isn't cut out for the game industry since he can't adhere to company policy...right?

Spin more.

It's beyond silly for a guy who regularly spews vitriol and rants about how everyone needs to lose their jobs scold someone else for doing the same.

I'm starting to think you have a little internet crush on me =P

Iwata has promised that he'd improve and change a number of key areas at Nintendo. He has promised he wouldn't allow a repeat of the 3DS launch to happen to the Wii U. Welp, that didn't happen. He promised to make sure the Wii U appealed to more third party publishers, welp.

As a CEO, his single most important responsibility is to the investors and company he is CEO over. He is harming both with the policies and decisions made in the last number of years. For that reason he deserves to be fired.

The EA employee? I have already said that if EA believes that his comments damaged the company then it would be understandable for him to be fired. The poster I was responding to wasn't requesting he be fired for harming EA's business, he was wanting him fired for making a statement that he found to be offensive. There is a difference.

BTW, I'm sure that today's events only fortified your stance that EA has it out for Nintendo, right =P
 
To be honest with you guys, there are a lot of developers/software engineers who thinks the same but they are afraid to speak about it publicly.

they obviously should be. this isn't stuff that people involved in production are supposed to say. companies like EA have hundreds of hired employees trained to say stuff like this and dance the good dance.
 
NeoGAF is an outlet for angry little gamers. When they like your work they'll carry you through the streets like any diehard gamer would, but the second you say a dumb quote or release a product they don't like, they'll be the first to tar and feather you.
Well played.
 
I'm baffled. It's like I'm in some parallel dimension where the Adam Orth incident didn't happen.

Yet at the same time, what harm is the guy doing by saying it? It's not like there's a business relationship left between EA and Nintendo to harm, that is abundantly clear.

And on the broader scope of the issue of EA not having anything in development on Wii U, it'll be interesting to see who ends up hurting more from this arrangement.

"Gen 4"

This guy must think there were no consoles prior to playstation.

More common than any of us want to believe, sadly.

It's an EA term.

That makes it even more sad.
 
I'm baffled. It's like I'm in some parallel dimension where the Adam Orth incident didn't happen.

Yet at the same time, what harm is the guy doing by saying it? It's not like there's a business relationship left between EA and Nintendo to harm, that is abundantly clear.

And on the broader scope of the issue of EA not having anything in development on Wii U, it'll be interesting to see who ends up hurting more from this arrangement.



More common than any of us want to believe, sadly.


That makes it even more sad.


Meh. EA games that are not party games havent sold well on Nintendo consoles for quite some time. EA is better off not investing in the platform.
 
It's not like there's a business relationship left between EA and Nintendo to harm, that is abundantly clear.

And on the broader scope of the issue of EA not having anything in development on Wii U, it'll be interesting to see who ends up hurting more from this arrangement.

A lot of people will have egg on their faces if Nintendo decides to make an emergency deal with EA. They certainly have the money to do it.
 
Less powerful than 360; only Mario and Zelda sell on the systems. Blatant lies, the first is twisting the truth by a country mile, the latter is just flat out ridiculous since even the Wii had the most sales for 3rd party titles for a number of years (financial reports, not made up wishful thinking like this EA dude) and a healthy number of multi-million sellers: it was just a DIFFERENT market, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't there. EA was just as bad as adapting to the Wii market as it was on the HD twins, not Nintendo's fault there.

As a dev: the first part certainly is no lie.

Edit: someone could easily make an argument that the Wii U is less powerful. These things are not as black and white. And calling the dev a liar is a little much.
 
To be honest with you guys, there are a lot of developers/software engineers who thinks the same but they are afraid to speak about it publicly.

So far i heard the Just cause 2 guys and DICE lead rendering technology(not sure what the title really is called but he is the lead). And i bet in the post mortem you would hear a lot more from other devs in interviews and stuff.
 
He didn't say anything that we don't know yet to be honest. But he was being very unprofessional, a hot-head guy obviously.
 
LOL at some nameless dev calling out Platinum fucking Games.

Besides, that was built from the ground up on 360 and ported.
Bayo 2 is being built from the ground up on Wii U.

Can't wait to play Bayo 2 on Wii U
Looks like I made the right choice for not buying Bayo 1 on ps3
 
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