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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | May 2013 | Lovecraftian Wasteland

You know some people do transatlantic trip for sightseeing and when they arrive they go to McDonald to eat same burgers again.

That's a story of companies trying to compete with Nintendo in handheld market in a nutshell ;)
 
Something often speaks to me: "LaughingBanana, don't buy too much digital games, especially the full ones... you'll be sorry... you'll be sorry..."

But goddamn if the thought of not having the need to switch carts in or out so very enticing..... Hmmmmmm....

...But then again those thoughts.....
 
Something often speaks to me: "LaughingBanana, don't buy too much digital games, especially the full ones... you'll be sorry... you'll be sorry..."

But goddamn if the thought of not having the need to switch carts in or out so very enticing..... Hmmmmmm....

...But then again those thoughts.....

Yeah I really dislike physical media for a handheld. I only own 2 physical games at this point (LBP and Hot Shots) and I don't even like having 2 carts.
 
Yeah I really dislike physical media for a handheld. I only own 2 physical games at this point (LBP and Hot Shots) and I don't even like having 2 carts.

I only have 3: Gravity Rush, Assassin Creed Liberation, and P4G.

My gut tells me that it wouldn't be wise for me to buy too many digital stuff, however... Though I cannot exactly pinpoint why I have that kind of gut.

A friend of mine pointed out that I would not be able to resell, but I never sell any of my stuff, even my broken 1st Vita... hmm.

Oh yeah, speaking of which, not a good idea to buy Ragnarok Odyssey nowadays?
 
I only have 3: Gravity Rush, Assassin Creed Liberation, and P4G.

My gut tells me that it wouldn't be wise for me to buy too many digital stuff, however... Though I cannot exactly pinpoint why I have that kind of gut.

A friend of mine pointed out that I would not be able to resell, but I never sell any of my stuff, even my broken 1st Vita... hmm.

Oh yeah, speaking of which, not a good idea to buy Ragnarok Odyssey nowadays?

There are better games than Ragnarok Odyssey but if you can get it for cheap then go for it.
 
The only physical game I own for the Vita is LBP. I won't buy another until I get rid of LBP (if at all). I don't know if this is a genuine shift towards acceptance of an all digital future or the fact that with PS+ I have little need for any other games.

Refreshing or not, the Vita can do well with extra games in its lineup, especially the type of games that people like to play/purchase.
Oh I know there are areas lacking in the lineup. It's a strange one for Sony because those games that are missing aren't typically ones that are associated with handhelds, but because they've positioned the Vita that way at least initially (twin sticks, using CoD in early marketing) it's a noticeable absence to some. :(
 
I only have 3: Gravity Rush, Assassin Creed Liberation, and P4G.

My gut tells me that it wouldn't be wise for me to buy too many digital stuff, however... Though I cannot exactly pinpoint why I have that kind of gut.

A friend of mine pointed out that I would not be able to resell, but I never sell any of my stuff, even my broken 1st Vita... hmm.

Oh yeah, speaking of which, not a good idea to buy Ragnarok Odyssey nowadays?

My first 3 Vita games were physical ones which I resold after I beat them. It was part of how I justified buying the Vita in the first place haha. I definitely agree that the reselling option is important.

I am just a sucker for convenience. If I know I'm not going to sell a game at any point and I'll be playing it a lot, I have to get it digitally (like Soul Sacrifice). But a single player game like Uncharted is going to be a physical copy that I beat and sell off.
 
Yeah I really dislike physical media for a handheld. I only own 2 physical games at this point (LBP and Hot Shots) and I don't even like having 2 carts.

That really improves my ability to actually finish a game and not just start it change after few hours into next one i bought and put the old one into i'll finish you sometime later backlog (sometime later usually == never)
 
Why does that "too many games" pic include Little Deviants?

TL;DR: Memory card prices is just a rationalization held by people not interested in the Vita in the first place. Price-sensitive gamers will prefer physical carts anyway and you don't need more than a $20 4GB card to go that route.

For a price sensitive gamer there's PS+ which will positively rape your memory card.

Really, these memory card prices are inexcusable. I've only got a 16GB myself (and have been doing loads of fridge cleaning) because the prices just go absolutely absurd.

A high barrier of entry turns people away who aren't absolutely certain that they'll love the system.
 
Depends. If someone went all-physical for their games then wouldn't a $20 4GB card be enough? I'd imagine that people going for the lowest possible prices would be buying physical carts (that they can trade-in or sell later). So for that type of customer, $20 on a memory card is a one-time expense. Or "free" if they buy a bundle.

Now for convenience, the 32GB card is the best choice. Expensive at $80-$100 but if you're buying all-digital then you're already on a different spending tier. For that kind of customer, convenience justifies the extra expense so $80 for a card is a pain but they're already looking to spend hundreds of dollars on digital games that they'll never be able to sell or trade-in.

(This is me. I've spent a lot on digital games. I'm past the point of caring about the $80 I spent on my 32GB card.)

TL;DR: Memory card prices is just a rationalization held by people not interested in the Vita in the first place. Price-sensitive gamers will prefer physical carts anyway and you don't need more than a $20 4GB card to go that route.

I can see your point, but for me it's actually a pretty big reason. I'm a PS+ user so I'll naturally need a big memory card. I can't see myself NOT buying a 32 gigs card for my European account, I'm sure you can agree with this. You're talking about how buying game carts is the cheapest way to go, but I'd say PS+ is... And requires you to have a big cart to enjoy it, unless you're okay with the unconvenience of having to constantly install/uninstall games.

And then I have my Japanese one. I play a lot of Japanese games (and kind of live in Japan), and it doesn't work like the PS3, where you can change accounts easily and any installed DLC is made available to every user on the system, regardless of the region of the PS account tied to it. So while I can play Japanese game cards with my EU card, any game using DLC would be busted (a friend of mine got stuck like that with Soul Sacrifice, he bought the Japanese version since we live here, but he uses a EU account. He realized he couldn't use the product code for the multiplayer after putting 20 hours into a save tied to his EU account, and thus unsalvageable).
So I need a second memory card for my JP account. Considering the price, I won't buy another 32 gigs, but 16 seems like the minimum since I want to play PSO2, that would gobble over half the space on a 8 gigs (for now! It'll definitely grow in size as updates keep coming by).

Sooooo, that leaves the damage count at somewhere from 15 000 (absolute lowest for used wifi model with some scratches) to 20 000 yen (new machine) for the system, plus something like 12 000 for the cards. About two thirds of the system price!

I really want to buy a Vita and I'm totally about to cave in for various reasons (I'm just waiting for a potential new model announcement at E3, you never know), but the memory card price is by far and large my biggest beef when I think about that purchase.

Disclaimer: I realize this is MY particular story and tons of people do not need a second card. Also, some of my arguments are purely convenience-related.
But this is GAF, where I'm sure a lot of people will want to use at least two accounts. Especially people (again, like me) who were spoiled by how easy it was to switch on PS3 and download or bought all kind of stuff on other regions' stores. Effing IGN had a video tutorial about how to change regions...
 
Also it probably doesn't help that the Vita section in stores is usually small enough that I could conceal it entirely by standing in front of it while the 3DS is steadily taking away space from the DS (currently about 40-50% of the space absorbed).
 
Man, it can sometimes feel like I am the only Vita owner in GAF who doesn't dabble in Playstation+, hahaha.

I recognize that it is good--perhaps even GREAT--value, but the fact that the games I am gonna get are not "mine" but more of being "rented" just irks me.

I think that I will never see myself ever joining PS+ out of principle. Heh, I am being irrational, I know.
 
Man, it can sometimes feel like I am the only Vita owner in GAF who doesn't dabble in Playstation+, hahaha.

I recognize that it is good--perhaps even GREAT--value, but the fact that the games I am gonna get are not "mine" but more of being "rented" just irks me.

I think that I will never see myself ever joining PS+ out of principle. Heh, I am being irrational, I know.
I don't use Plus either. I had it before but I'm just not much for "renting" games. :)
 
Man, it can sometimes feel like I am the only Vita owner in GAF who doesn't dabble in Playstation+, hahaha.

I recognize that it is good--perhaps even GREAT--value, but the fact that the games I am gonna get are not "mine" but more of being "rented" just irks me.

I think that I will never see myself ever joining PS+ out of principle. Heh, I am being irrational, I know.

I can see why some don't like the rental aspect of the service but thats just part of the entire service imo. The discounts and exclusive stuff is actually really good.

I expect them to get even better with the PS4.
 
Man, it can sometimes feel like I am the only Vita owner in GAF who doesn't dabble in Playstation+, hahaha.

I recognize that it is good--perhaps even GREAT--value, but the fact that the games I am gonna get are not "mine" but more of being "rented" just irks me.

I think that I will never see myself ever joining PS+ out of principle. Heh, I am being irrational, I know.

That's exactly the way I see it as well. Amazing value but it just doesn't click with me, I like owning the games I go through, that's why I never rented anything gaming related. I don't even like borrowing books or games for the same reason, lol. I even own a PS3 so it would be thrice the value, but nope, not interested. I like free trials though.

Also, the discounts are always very tempting but I don't buy enough digital stuff to justify the price.
 
For a price sensitive gamer there's PS+ which will positively rape your memory card.

Really, these memory card prices are inexcusable. I've only got a 16GB myself (and have been doing loads of fridge cleaning) because the prices just go absolutely absurd.

A high barrier of entry turns people away who aren't absolutely certain that they'll love the system.

I can see your point, but for me it's actually a pretty big reason. I'm a PS+ user so I'll naturally need a big memory card. I can't see myself NOT buying a 32 gigs card for my European account, I'm sure you can agree with this. You're talking about how buying game carts is the cheapest way to go, but I'd say PS+ is... And requires you to have a big cart to enjoy it, unless you're okay with the unconvenience of having to constantly install/uninstall games.

That's true. PS+ is one way to save money and I agree that 4GB (or even 8GB) won't be enough unless you're looking to play and finish just one game at a time. It's definitely doable though depending on your gaming habits/discipline (I remember there was a Vitabro who posted about doing exactly that.)

But I was thinking more about the "average gamer" who doesn't even know about the existence of PS+ (or knows but chooses not to subscribe). Unless the market penetration of PS+ is really that high. I'm completely ignorant about those figures so I'm just imagining the scenario based on my own limited knowledge of the Vita userbase. ;)

I will concede though that high memory card prices ISN'T "just an excuse" for many folks on GAF. But I do think it gets thrown out there by people that have already made up their mind anyway.
 
With PS Plus I look at it like this: Should my subscription run out at some point, by then I could buy those free games for a small price, if I'm still interested in playing them.

Meanwhile the extra discounts, automatic updating, throphy syncing and cloud saving are really nice to have.
 
Man, it can sometimes feel like I am the only Vita owner in GAF who doesn't dabble in Playstation+, hahaha.

I recognize that it is good--perhaps even GREAT--value, but the fact that the games I am gonna get are not "mine" but more of being "rented" just irks me.

I think that I will never see myself ever joining PS+ out of principle. Heh, I am being irrational, I know.

I don't get that line of thinking.

If Sony/Nintendo/MS/Valve/CDP/whatever bancrupts all your digitally "owned" game content will be gone anyway so technically you don't "own" anything anyway.

You can buy online pass for EA sports game and when they 6 month later shutdown the servers tough luck you lost paid cash.

So anything digital is "rental" only diffrence is PSN+ is short term for 1-2$ per game and normal buying is longer term for much higher prices.
 
I don't get that line of thinking.

If Sony/Nintendo/MS/Valve/CDP/whatever bancrupts all your digitally "owned" game content will be gone anyway so technically you don't "own" anything anyway.

You can buy online pass for EA sports game and when they 6 month later shutdown the servers tough luck you lost paid cash.

So anything digital is "rental" only diffrence is PSN+ is short term for 1-2$ per game and normal buying is longer term for much higher prices.
That's why I always prefer physical editions if one is available. The exception is Steam, because physical on PC is not a viable option for me anymore. It just isn't worth the hassle.

In any case, the bankrupt scenario is very unlikely while Plus expiration is a sure thing and very short-termed: that's the difference for me. Even if Sony/Valve/MS should disappear one day, somebody else would buy the platform and keep everything as it is, they're just too huge and profitable right now to disappear altogether. That's my line of thinking at least.

I don't buy online passes because I don't play online games, however that would be a different thing imo: you just pay for a service that is limited in time, you already know that when you buy a pass. The servers won't stay up or even populated forever, that's a given for any game. It's something more like paying for cable tv or a monthly fee for MMORPGs, more or less.

EDIT: another reason why I couldn't live with Plus, I'd feel obligated to play what's for free that month, and I usually have very restricted tastes in games. I'd feel forced to play what they choose for me, if that even makes sense to you :D I know, it's a problem of mine. In any case, I would probably buy more games even if I had Plus, so I'd end up spending even more than now for games in the long run. I'm still a student and will be jobless for at the very least one more year, so maybe someday I'll be able to pay for both games I want and Plus free games, but unfortunately that time is not now :P
 
P4G

I'm at the Castle... wandering around trying to get Sun and Aeon Personas...
but the drops aren't happening.. any tips?

I'm thinking of using Goho-M to go to the Velvet Room.. register some personas then try again... would a day pass doing so? would I have to restart my dungeon progress?
 
I recognize that it is good--perhaps even GREAT--value, but the fact that the games I am gonna get are not "mine" but more of being "rented" just irks me.

Yeah but the rent duration is so long that it hardly matters, by the time you stop subscribing those games are likely dirt cheap so you can keep the ones you want to keep.
 
I'm thinking of using Goho-M to go to the Velvet Room.. register some personas then try again... would a day pass doing so? would I have to restart my dungeon progress?

Don't take my word for it. You get teleported to the dungeon entrance, you 'should' be able to walk into the velvet room and back to the dungeon, a day only passes when you leave the TV. Goho-M lets you warp back to same floor
 
P4G

I'm at the Castle... wandering around trying to get Sun and Aeon Personas...
but the drops aren't happening.. any tips?

I'm thinking of using Goho-M to go to the Velvet Room.. register some personas then try again... would a day pass doing so? would I have to restart my dungeon progress?

No, you don't lose a day by using Goho-M and visiting the Velvet Room.

When you return to the castle, Teddie will ask you if you want to go to the last floor you left or start over from the beginning.

About the Sun and Aeon personas, have you tried fusing your registered personas? Aeon I think is especially rare to get from drops (I could be wrong though.) Anyway, there's a guide in the manual to tell you which arcana you need to fuse to produce a specific arcana.
 
Don't take my word for it. You get teleported to the dungeon entrance, you 'should' be able to walk into the velvet room and back to the dungeon, a day only passes when you leave the TV. Goho-M lets you warp back to same floor
Yeah, you get back to the entrance, you can go back to the Velvet Room then, the day won't pass if you don't exit the TV altogether. Then, when you go back to the Castle, you can select the highest floor you've ever been from a menu and start directly from there.
So yeah, use the Goho-M as much as you want, you won't lose any kind of progress.
 
thanks guys. I'm trying to get the Aeon persona to prepare for Social Links..
but I've been grinding the castle up and down with no luck at all.

No, you don't lose a day by using Goho-M and visiting the Velvet Room.

When you return to the castle, Teddie will ask you if you want to go to the last floor you left or start over from the beginning.

About the Sun and Aeon personas, have you tried fusing your registered personas? Aeon I think is especially rare to get from drops (I could be wrong though.) Anyway, there's a guide in the manual to tell you which arcana you need to fuse to produce a specific arcana.

hmm. I read that I lose personas when I fuse them.. but I can get them back as long as they are registered right?

EDIT: what do you guys use to decide which skills to forget?
are all skills obtainable via skill cards?
 
Man, it can sometimes feel like I am the only Vita owner in GAF who doesn't dabble in Playstation+, hahaha.

I recognize that it is good--perhaps even GREAT--value, but the fact that the games I am gonna get are not "mine" but more of being "rented" just irks me.

I think that I will never see myself ever joining PS+ out of principle. Heh, I am being irrational, I know.
It is a rental service, it's just one that offers tremendous bang for your buck. It is the creator of epic backlogs.

It costs so little that I forget I'm even subscribed, and then gaming Santa drops in every couple of weeks to give me new games. It's a fantastic service and I'd say you're missing out by not using it.
 
thanks guys. I'm trying to get the Aeon persona to prepare for Social Links..
but I've been grinding the castle up and down with no luck at all.



hmm. I read that I lose personas when I fuse them.. but I can get them back as long as they are registered right?

EDIT: what do you guys use to decide which skills to forget?
are all skills obtainable via skill cards?

Yup as long as they're registered you can pay Margaret to summon them back. And I wouldn't worry about losing them this early in the game--fusion is key to acquiring more powerful personas.

I forget skills that are redundant based on my other equipped personas and my party members. I also forget a skill when the new skill is an obvious upgrade.

And yes all skills are available via skill cards but the more powerful ones are rare drops or are only available from specific personas that you've leveled up. You'll know what I mean later when you visit the cafe in Okina City (if you haven't already).
 
It is a rental service, it's just one that offers tremendous bang for your buck. It is the creator of epic backlogs.

It costs so little that I forget I'm even subscribed, and then gaming Santa drops in every couple of weeks to give me new games. It's a fantastic service and I'd say you're missing out by not using it.

Well said. Being showered with new games to play every other week makes me feel special. :,)
 
thanks guys. I'm trying to get the Aeon persona to prepare for Social Links..
but I've been grinding the castle up and down with no luck at all.



hmm. I read that I lose personas when I fuse them.. but I can get them back as long as they are registered right?

EDIT: what do you guys use to decide which skills to forget?
are all skills obtainable via skill cards?

Don't be afraid to lose personas during fusion. The new ones are almost invariably better, and in my experience, you never go back to the old ones. Yes, registered personas can always be bought with money. A good trick if you want to get certain skill cards is to level up a persona until just before it is about to give you a card, then to register it. Then you can just buy that persona and level him up as many times as you want to subsequently get more of the skill cards. But in my experience, this is unnecessary in the early to mid game, as new, better skills keep appearing.

Also, if you need a persona with a particular alignment, I'd suggest that you look up a persona fusion list to see the lowest level persona you can get from fusion. This way, rather than grinding, all you need is to buy the personas you need from the compendium and fuse them to get a persona of a particular alignment.

Hope this helps.
 
Don't be afraid to lose personas during fusion. The new ones are almost invariably better, and in my experience, you never go back to the old ones. Yes, registered personas can always be bought with money. A good trick if you want to get certain skill cards is to level up a persona until just before it is about to give you a card, then to register it. Then you can just buy that persona and level him up as many times as you want to subsequently get more of the skill cards. But in my experience, this is unnecessary in the early to mid game, as new, better skills keep appearing.

Also, if you need a persona with a particular alignment, I'd suggest that you look up a persona fusion list to see the lowest level persona you can get from fusion. This way, rather than grinding, all you need is to buy the personas you need from the compendium and fuse them to get a persona of a particular alignment.

Hope this helps.

thanks! the game is getting better now for me. I don't quite get what you mean with the part I bolded

another question:
how do we know the persona has reach max growth?
when there's no more new Skills to be learnt?
 
thanks! the game is getting better now for me. I don't quite get what you mean with the part I bolded

Okay, it is like this. Typically, you can look at the movelist of a persona, and one of them will show you which skillcard the persona will give you. For example, suppose the persona will give you a skill at level 40. IF you want to get more of this card, you level it up till level 39, with a few hundred xp left to go until level 40. At this point, you register the persona. After this, you can go ahead to level up the persona, who, upon reaching lvl 40, will give you the skill card. Then, whenever you want more of this card, you simply get rid of the level 40 persona by fusing or dismissing it, and you buy that same persona from the compendium again. Since you registered it at level 39, you will get that persona at level 39 again which you can easily level again to 40 to get another one of the skill card.

how do we know the persona has reach max growth?
when there's no more new Skills to be learnt?

It is not important to level up the stats of the persona, so when no more skills can be learnt, you shouldn't waste any time in fusing it to acquire newer personas with higher level and better skills. In principle, you can level up each persona to level 99, but in practice, this is completely unnecessary. You can simply get a higher level persona through fusion. The only time you level up a persona is when you want a specific item, skill or skillcard from that persona.
 
Okay, it is like this. Typically, you can look at the movelist of a persona, and one of them will show you which skillcard the persona will give you. For example, suppose the persona will give you a skill at level 40. IF you want to get more of this card, you level it up till level 39, with a few hundred xp left to go until level 40. At this point, you register the persona. After this, you can go ahead to level up the persona, who, upon reaching lvl 40, will give you the skill card. Then, whenever you want more of this card, you simply get rid of the level 40 persona by fusing or dismissing it, and you buy that same persona from the compendium again. Since you registered it at level 39, you will get that persona at level 39 again which you can easily level again to 40 to get another one of the skill card.

i see. thanks. didn't know reaching the persona level to unlock the skill will also unlock the skill card :O that's good info!
 
any way to appear offline on your Vita?

Lets say i wanted to play a game but the vita always signs me in automatically... got a friend i dont want to know im playing at certain times (we work together and i like to get in a few matches/rounds in the morning when its quiet) but want to keep it on the DL

thanks
 
i see. thanks. didn't know reaching the persona level to unlock the skill will also unlock the skill card :O that's good info!

Yea, just take note that not all skills acquired from the persona will give you a skillcard. Looking at the status of the persona will tell you which card they give.
 
any way to appear offline on your Vita?

Lets say i wanted to play a game but the vita always signs me in automatically... got a friend i dont want to know im playing at certain times (we work together and i like to get in a few matches/rounds in the morning when its quiet) but want to keep it on the DL

thanks

Turn off WiFi?
 
Okay, it is like this. Typically, you can look at the movelist of a persona, and one of them will show you which skillcard the persona will give you. For example, suppose the persona will give you a skill at level 40. IF you want to get more of this card, you level it up till level 39, with a few hundred xp left to go until level 40. At this point, you register the persona. After this, you can go ahead to level up the persona, who, upon reaching lvl 40, will give you the skill card. Then, whenever you want more of this card, you simply get rid of the level 40 persona by fusing or dismissing it, and you buy that same persona from the compendium again. Since you registered it at level 39, you will get that persona at level 39 again which you can easily level again to 40 to get another one of the skill card.



It is not important to level up the stats of the persona, so when no more skills can be learnt, you shouldn't waste any time in fusing it to acquire newer personas with higher level and better skills. In principle, you can level up each persona to level 99, but in practice, this is completely unnecessary. You can simply get a higher level persona through fusion. The only time you level up a persona is when you want a specific item, skill or skillcard from that persona.

seems like I've been wasting too much time on Izanagi.
thanks! I shall start fusing my Personas :X no wonder I felt so stuck

Yea, just take note that not all skills acquired from the persona will give you a skillcard. Looking at the status of the persona will tell you which card they give.

my bad.. hmm I really don't see this. is it those ? under the Next Lv Skill?
 
seems like I've been wasting too much time on Izanagi.
thanks! I shall start fusing my Personas :X no wonder I felt so stuck

I didn't fuse much in the beginning either. I was used to Pokemon where I would kind of get a good base group and stick with them. plus the sentimental attachments :P

Once you start fusing more though the personas get strong, fast.
 
Man, it can sometimes feel like I am the only Vita owner in GAF who doesn't dabble in Playstation+, hahaha.

I recognize that it is good--perhaps even GREAT--value, but the fact that the games I am gonna get are not "mine" but more of being "rented" just irks me.

I think that I will never see myself ever joining PS+ out of principle. Heh, I am being irrational, I know.

Nope im right there with you

Own 20+ retail games, all cart

I have a 32gb card in my Vita but that wouldnt fit all the titles, and i dont like the idea of not having my entire library ready to play at the drop of a hat, whenever i feel like.

Plus Physical > Digital so PS+ offers me nothing

the only benefit i would get is the discount on PSN digital only titles, but those are so few and far between it wouldnt offset the cost IMO
 
my bad.. hmm I really don't see this. is it those ? under the Next Lv Skill?

I don't think you're far enough in the game to see that. After you've visited the cafe in Okina City the game will let you in on the details.

Also, the skill cards aren't *given* to you (like in P3P) by personas. They sorta do...but again, that happens via visiting the cafe in Okina City. Not exactly spoilerish but you may want to discover it for yourself when you've progressed far enough. ;)
 
oh man

derp... good call

haha thanks

edit

guess i meant enjoy the benefits of online like online play but "appear" offline like some chat programs or XBox live allow, if you dont want certain people to see you

I don't think you can, but that's the disadvantage you get if you wanna play during work!
 
my bad.. hmm I really don':xx see this. is it those ? under the Next Lv Skill?

Sorry, I just checked. I mixed up my personas 3 and 4. :x In persona 4 the way to get skill cards is to drive to the cafe and you will be able to copy the skill from a persona to a card. A diamond shape will be shown in the movelist if that particular skill can be made into a card.
 
I don't think you're far enough in the game to see that. After you've visited the cafe in Okina City the game will let you in on the details.

Also, the skill cards aren't *given* to you (like in P3P) by personas. They sorta do...but again, that happens via visiting the cafe in Okina City. Not exactly spoilerish but you may want to discover it for yourself when you've progressed far enough. ;)

Sorry, I just checked. I mixed up my personas 3 and 4. :x In persona 4 the way to get skill cards is to drive to the cafe and you will be able to copy the skill from a persona to a card. A diamond shape will be shown in the movelist if that particular skill can be made into a card.

thanks guys! for helping me enjoy this good game (:
 
As a Vita owner, I am extremely unsatisfied with the software lineup, so I have to agree with the doom & gloom people. There's nothing on it I want to play now, there's very little coming to it I want to play in the future.

I was expecting it to be like the PSP - getting multiplatform games, instead, it's the most disappointing gaming device I've ever bought.

Look at the upcoming release list of the PS3 for the next two months: Capcom Arcade, Resident Evil Revelations, Fast & the Furious, Fuse, Grid, Bandfuse, Remember Me, The Last of US, gold edition of Skyrim, Borderlands 2 DLC.

How many of those games are coming to the Vita? None. Instead it gets a HD Collection that few people want, Jack & Dexter.

Look at the types of games that sell well in the West, and they are largely absent on the Vita. Yes, it's cool now to hate on FPSes, especially here, but they sell well. The Vita will be almost 2 before it gets a non half-assed one, and it will be completely overshadowed by the PS4 Killzone.

Where are the open world games? Where are the RPGs? Some Vita owners might be satisfied with Ragnarok Odyssey or Soul Sacrifice, but they pale in comparison to other games on other systems.

Jak & Daxter*, is an awesome franchise and sure it's old but I've actually never played through the second two games.

There are at least a few "big" games coming later this year, imo, but I guess my definition of big is different from a lot of people on Gaf. By big, I mean: Muramasa Rebirth, Ys Memories of Celceta, KZ: Mercenary, Tearaway, Dragon's Crown, Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate, Valhalla Knights 3 - but I do agree that the lineup could be better.

We're getting lots of ports, lots of indie ports too. Could things turn around? Sure. I'll believe it when I see it though, considering how Sony treated the Vita for the past year.

Why does that "too many games" pic include Little Deviants?

Alright, enough people complained about it so I changed it :P

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The main thing I'm trying to avoid is ports, by ports I mean games that have come out on other systems already and are later ported to Vita. Simultaneous releases are ok but I wanted to focus on putting all around good/fun games in the pic.
 
I am a bit excited about ys after watching a few youtube videos.
How do you pronounce it? "Ys"
How big is the open world in this game?
Its an action rpg right?

How were the sales for the game in Japan?
 
I am a bit excited about ys after watching a few youtube videos.
How do you pronounce it? "Ys"
How big is the open world in this game?
Its an action rpg right?

How were the sales for the game in Japan?

All i can answer for you is that its pronounced "eese" like geese. I asked the same question a few months ago heheh
 
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