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Does anyone else feel that Tywin's view of Tyrion could change exponentially once Jaime returns?

Jaime's entire legacy lies in his swordsmanship, which is forever hindered with his loss of hand.

I can see Tywin shunning him now that he has no 'use'. His perfect son now has a major physical defect that will stay with him for the rest of his life.

Cersei is a woman and her only use to Tywin is to pump out more Lannister kids.

Tyrion now seems to be the most 'capable' of the three Lannister siblings. Now married with the potential of bringing in a new Lannister(s) through Sansa.

I noticed that Tywin was intent on preventing Joffrey from hurting Tyrion at the wedding, whether that be protecting his own just because Tyrion is a Lannister, or because he genuinely did not want his son to be killed remains to be seen.
 
Jaime's "use" is that he's the oldest male, and not a deformed, lecherous imp. Tywin would most likely be completely fine with Jaime just getting a nice political marriage and retiring to Casterly Rock to make the next generation of Lannisters and upholding their reputation.

As for the marriage, Tywin didn't want Joffrey to blow up and do something stupid and he didn't want Tyrion to be humiliated (just look at that stare when people were laughing a bit earlier). He didn't want a scene, just it to be done with and have Tyrion be up pumping babies into Sansas belly.
 
Jaime's "use" is that he's the oldest male, and not a deformed, lecherous imp. Tywin would most likely be completely fine with Jaime just getting a nice political marriage and retiring to Casterly Rock to make the next generation of Lannisters and upholding their reputation.

As for the marriage, Tywin didn't want Joffrey to blow up and do something stupid and he didn't want Tyrion to be humiliated (just look at that stare when people were laughing a bit earlier). He didn't want a scene, just it to be done with and have Tyrion be up pumping babies into Sansas belly.

Slight correction: he didn't want another Lannister (his son at that) to be humiliated. He gives zero fucks about Tyrion's feelings.
 
Does Tywin really just outright hate Tyron? They have a such weird relationship, it's hard to tell for me. Same with Cersei and Tyron, come to think of it
 
Does Tywin really just outright hate Tyron? They have a such weird relationship, it's hard to tell for me. Same with Cersei and Tyron, come to think of it

Tywin and Cersei hate Tyrion, mostly for the same reasons. Tywin however puts maintaining the Lannister reputation over his hatred of Tyrion while Cersei doesn't give a fuck.
 
Tywin is embarrassed by Tyrion. He views and generally treats him as the black sheep of the family. But Tywin's also had grudgingly mounting respect for Tyrion as, from Tywin's point of view, Tyrion's started to demonstrate keen insights and a clever strategic mind that belie his physical appearance.

Doesn't mean Tywin still won't use him strictly for what he perceives as the greater good of the family legacy, though, along with his siblings.
 
The scene in 1.10 where Tywin makes Tyrion the hand of the King is completely negated with the scene in 3.01.

1.10 - Nice scene, Tywin admits that Tyrion is his son and there's a friendly atmosphere
3.01 - "you are an ill-made, spiteful..." etc.

Their relationship is so weird.
 
The scene in 1.10 where Tywin makes Tyrion the hand of the King is completely negated with the scene in 3.01.

1.10 - Nice scene, Tywin admits that Tyrion is his son and there's a friendly atmosphere
3.01 - "you are an ill-made, spiteful..." etc.

Their relationship is so weird.

I honestly took the first conversation as him thinking Jamie was as good as dead, and attempting to salvage whatever he had with the only son he had left. Nothing more. More him being only concerned about the family legacy and all.
 
The scene in 1.10 where Tywin makes Tyrion the hand of the King is completely negated with the scene in 3.01.

1.10 - Nice scene, Tywin admits that Tyrion is his son and there's a friendly atmosphere
3.01 - "you are an ill-made, spiteful..." etc.

Their relationship is so weird.

Probably because he found out he's been seeing a whore while acting as the hand of the king.

Twyin, or at least Joffrey has the power to remove Jaime from the Kingsguard and I'm sure they'll do it. That's probably an insult though, even if it gives him the ability to own land and have a wife.
 
Does Tywin really just outright hate Tyron? They have a such weird relationship, it's hard to tell for me. Same with Cersei and Tyron, come to think of it

I think he does... He said he was responsible for killing his mother on his way into the world. The very same insult that Cersei said to him earlier as well.

They blame him for the death of Lady Lannister or whoever during childbirth. The fact he turned out to be a half man/dwarf just adds fuel to their fire, like my mother or my wife died for this?

Tyrion has pretty much been damned if you do, damned if you don't throughout his life. It's sad really, because I've always suspected if Cersei showed him but a bit of sisterly love, he'd go to the ends of the the world to protect her. I think Jamie is probably the only one who treats him well.

Can't wait till he's at Kings Landing and we get a scene of all the Lannisters. It would be amazing to see the dynamic, what will Tywin say about his his hand the fact he's basically useless as a knight/kingsguard now etc.
 
Wasn't Cersei fucking everything up at that point in Kings Landing? Even though Tywin hates Tyrion for being an imp and fucking whores all the time, he's a pragmatist and knew he had the brains to salvage the situation there.
 
It STILL freaks me out thinking about his eyes popped out and dehydrated in the first episode.

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That's a good question. I've always assumed that the show is showing us everything as it occurs in chronological order for the most part. Some of the timelines wouldn't make a whole lot of sense though as far as, for example, like Melisandre's travel time from leaving Dragonstone ---> getting Gendry ---> and returning to Dragonstone. All of that seems to take place within 2 or 3 episodes? (...)

AFAIR, Melisandre left Dragonstone to search for Gendry in Episode 3.3, found him in 3.6 and delivered him in 3.8, using ship and horses as methods of transportation.

I find that to be entirely believable.
 
He was pretty distinctive among all the other white walkers in that scene (with all those ridges). The others just looked like walking corpses.
 
I wanted to clarify this, but I can't remember if they've clarified it in the series or not. Help?

You mean the difference between white walkers and wights?

Yeah they have.

White Walkers are the weird ice-people who lead the wights who are basically zombies. Jon killed a wight back in Season 1. What Sam killed was a White Walker.
 
You mean Wights vs White Walkers? I'm not sure if they've made the distinction in the show, but it's been discussed openly in the thread before.

You mean the difference between white walkers and wights?

Yeah they have.

White Walkers are the weird ice-people who lead the wights who are basically zombies. Jon killed a wight back in Season 1. What Sam killed was a White Walker.

Yeah that :p Thanks guys.

What they said. White Walkers are like the generals and shit. The ones that you should really be worried about. Wights are basically zombies.
 
He was pretty distinctive among all the other white walkers in that scene (with all those ridges). The others just looked like walking corpses.

Those are different creatures entirely. "The White Walkers," also called "Others" are like the one pictured. The walking corpses are referred to as wights. They are basically zombies.

Edit: beaten like sansa
 
They should've renamed the Wights (regular ol' zombies) to something else. People keep getting them confused with the White Walkers (long-haired skeleton dudes). lol
 
Yeah but I'm asking if the one at the end of S2 is the same guy that Sam stabbed. Others have suggested they probably all look like that. Why? Are they clones or something? Is there a huge ice cube tray pumping them out somewhere? :p
 
Thus Sam >>> Jon.

Also, do we know if there are White Walker of the female persuasion?

Mayhaps. S2 extras mention a cold white woman with blue eyes.

Yeah but I'm asking if the one at the end of S2 is the same guy that Sam stabbed. Others have suggested they probably all look like that. Why? Are they clones or something? Is there a huge ice cube tray pumping them out somewhere? :p

CGI Full body make up is expensive!
 
I was confused too over the White Walker that Sam killed.

Looks identical to the guy at the end of Season Two (who Sam saw - I think).
 
Yeah but I'm asking if the one at the end of S2 is the same guy that Sam stabbed. Others have suggested they probably all look like that. Why? Are they clones or something? Is there a huge ice cube tray pumping them out somewhere? :p

Well, I just assume it's because of the makeup and cgi. lol. They are probably reusing stuff.
 
Ah, the White Walker mystery is solved
Only one full version of the redesigned White Walker costume was made by the Season 2 finale, thus the large shot of 10-30 White Walkers in the shot is just one stunt man doubled up many times. CGI enhancements were used to give the effect that wisps of cold air are emanating from the White Walkers' bodies, as well as to make their abdomens much more gaunt than human physiology
 
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