It's even worse than that. If you mention somethng that happened in the show and a person forgets (or doesn't understand) that it happened, you could be accused of book talk. I was already burned at the stake for that, even though I wasn't remotely talking about the books. Someone just assumed I was.
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It's even worse than that. If you mention somethng that happened in the show and a person forgets (or doesn't understand) that it happened, you could be accused of book talk. I was already burned at the stake for that, even though I wasn't remotely talking about the books. Someone just assumed I was.
Dont let logic get in the way of the daily meltdown/witchhunt
BTW the name of the thread is No Book Spoilers, not No Book Readers. 99% of book readers aren't saying anything in here that's a spoiler, how you interpret it is your prerogative. Stop looking for things that aren't there.
Man, I loved the first two seasons, but is anyone else quickly losing interest with this season? The plot points are trivial and most of the dialogue feels substanceless and like filler.. really getting bored, am I the only one? something about the drama feels way too modern and out of place which is distracting and immediately takes me out of the show
i'm even losing interest in the nude scenes (!) because the context is meaningless.. maybe I was disillusioned during the first 2 seasons? even the directing work seems worse..
i'm even losing interest in the nude scenes (!) because the context is meaningless.. maybe I was disillusioned during the first 2 seasons? even the directing work seems worse..
I think it's the complete opposite for me. I've liked this season the most so far. The story and characters are more interesting than ever. And it's weird how you said the directing is worse. A lot of people think S3 looks a lot better and has bigger production values.
Justice_dp
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For me it's season 1 > 3 >>>>> 2.
I could not stand the Essos scenes, Jon's story led nowhere and I did not like Talisa. The scenes in Kings Landing and in Harrenhall were good, but somehow the magic was lost to me. The third season has gone long ways to make up for all those problems and I'm invested in the storylines from Robb and Jon once gain and the Tyrells are a great addition to the Kings Landing setting. I love Loras akward interaction with Cercei and Sansa so much. And Natalie Dormer's Margary is so much fun to watch.
The One Who Knocks
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Although I disagree that it doesn't ruin/hint/imply at anything, even if I were to agree with you that it doesn't ruin anything it's irrelevant as it is contradctiory to the rules as stated in the opening post.
It is an indirect comparison between the Jon in the book, the Jon in the show and the storylines that both follow. I've not read the book and cannot really comment on why his story would be better for book readers than non-readers (I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW!) but it is far better to completely forget the books if commenting on the show in this thread. They are meaningless, and irrelevant. The show is the show and that's what the thread is to discuss.
NathanMcMahon
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what about the directing work seems worse?
Justice_dp
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Because some thing's do not get talked about in the other threads. And I do not think it is selfish, to talk about one of my favourite fictional series with people that love it too. I'm no troll that sit's in a dark cave throing stones on hikers' waking by.
As I said before, there are reasons' why readers want to read/post here and we/they do not want to spoil anyones fun. And as I said before I did not post in this thread anymore nor will I continue after those few messages.
But I wanted to say that it seemed to me - as a lurker - that the situation got way out of hand in the last few weeks.
cubicle47b
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He never directly compared Jon on the show and Jon in the book. The "rules" in the OP aren't official rules by the Internet God transcribed by Moses (in this case Steelyuhas) either.
Chuck Norris
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I wasn't implying anything about what happens with Jon, I was just saying he is a well written character. Good dialogue. Interesting. Nothing to do with his arc
Second, I don't really understand what you are complaining about to begin with. So I'm vaguely implying that Jon does STUFF? Were you under the assumption that absolutely nothing happens in his story?
Last, in my defence, I thought I was in the other thread
Yeah we do, and it seems it still doesn't get through to the book readers... There is NO COMPARISON ALLOWED. It's a simple rule to follow. Not to mention people keep posting here without looking at the thread title.
Yes it's worth it, because it diminishes the shows or characters for us. We don't want you coming in here and telling us you didn't like this scene, or that in the books so and so is more sympathetic etc. If we want to ask book readers a specific question, we can go to their thread.
I'm sorry to a lot of you that have forgotten what it's like to get excited and speculate, or that you are tired of comparisons and just want to chat about the show, but you can chat with us here by following a simple rule. No book discussion. This means no spoilers, no comparisons, no sharing of info that is not possible to know for a tv watcher etc.
Chuck Norris
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There was absolutely no description in my comparison. You are complaining more about me mentioning the existence of the books than the actual content of the post
NathanMcMahon
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Agreed
They seem to not give much of a shit at this point. The open mocking is a testament to that.
I wasn't even talking to you. Look who I quoted in my reply.
Manmademan
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personally I took that comment to mean Jon is a better character for book readers, because kit Harrington is the worst actor on the show. Ygritte is the only thing that saved his scenes for me.
cubicle47b
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No one deserves to be spoiled, but lots of people deserve to be mocked.
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Kit's not that bad when they actually give him something to do other than stand there, get yelled at, and look stupid.
Sure there is. Not everyone of you has watched the extras which help a lot in understanding how the world operates. And you really don't want to go googling stuff like "what's the deal with the white trees with red leaves" because the internet is a dark place full of spoilers.
Have to agree. I want to contribute and get excited in this thread, but I just get too damn scared I will read a spoiler, no matter how slight. Leave those who aren't articulate enough to read have fun in our own thread; there are others for more generic discussion.
Manmademan
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that's the thing for me. Kit tends to stand around slack jawed looking lost in every scene he's in, regardless of the circumstance. drives me insane.
Robb's actor on the other hand is awesome.
cubicle47b
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I agree with Kit being okay when given something to do. He's definitely one of the weakest actors on the show, though.
User 100115
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Appearing on a show that has Peter Dinklage owning every scene he is in nerfs everyone's acting ability, to be honest.
I kind of get the feeling Kit is perfect for what they actually want the character to be. I just don't particularly like that character all that much compared to some others. Ygritte kind of annoys me, too. I feel like Game of Thrones shouldn't have someone with a fucking catch phrase.
Snow's story has been mostly pretty blah for a while. There was a period this season though where I was most excited to see what happened up north. Now I kind of feel like it's been too long since much happened so I'm back to thinking it's one of the worst segments on the show. I'm sure it'll pay off or get interesting at some point, though. I'm just antsy.
Snow's story has been mostly pretty blah for a while. There was a period this season though where I was most excited to see what happened up north. Now I kind of feel like it's been too long since much happened so I'm back to thinking it's one of the worst segments on the show. I'm sure it'll pay off or get interesting at some point, though. I'm just antsy.
Duane Cunningham
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Ruining things out of spite or simply not caring enough to watch yourself are not respectable acts.
Holy shit. I had to reverse image search that and found the guy's DeviantArt page. Amazing stuff.
http://dynamaito.deviantart.com/gallery/36748392#
(His work is spoiler free, but I'd stay away from the comments, of course)
Manmademan
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On a show with a weaker cast I might not even care. But putting him next to Ygritte does him no favors (she's great for that role), and Tyrion, Jamie, Tywin, Robb, and hell...even Joffrey are clearly playing in the big leagues in terms of acting skill.
I don't hate him, but his character just seems kind of "there" compared to most of the rest of the main cast. The only character I like watching less is Daenerys.
edit: littlefingers actor is a little over the top into snydley whiplash territory, but at least he's interesting. not GOOD but amusing to watch
NathanMcMahon
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Holy shit. I had to reverse image search that and found the guy's DeviantArt page. Amazing stuff.
http://dynamaito.deviantart.com/gallery/36748392#
(His work is spoiler free, but I'd stay away from the comments, of course)
that is pretty awesome.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Yeah, I read this thread because it's kind of neat seeing speculation from non-readers, and every so often I'll chime in with some short piece of background or explanation, i.e. the same way that someone watching the show might ask me "Hey what's the deal with X?", "Oh, X is so-and-so."
The world's history is just so rich that it's hard not to fill in some stuff that the show leaves out, and I'm not sure why some people would be put off by this instead of appreciating it to some degree. Light example: Barristan Selmy doesn't do much sword-fighting in the TV show so people aren't really up to speed on how good he is. More people expound on his skill in the books, and I don't think that knowledge hurts anything. Basically, when Selmy said he could cut down the Kingsguard single handed when Joffrey dismissed him, he meant it and they knew he meant it.
I'm not comparing how it plays out in the book differently from the show, just filling in something minor. Does filler like that really bother people?
cubicle47b
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I think most actors on the show hold up fairly well, especially the actors at King's Landing. Charles Dance, Diana Rigg, Conleth Hill, and Jack Gleeson are all fantastic. It's really Kit and maybe a few others that stand out.
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The worst actor on the show for me is the porn girl they got for Shae. Every scene with her is painful.
I don't think its something that's needed in the thread. It could be something they'll show later, we don't know, and I think its better that way.
Oh for sure. Such a poor choice. Can barely show emotion or read the dialogue properly. One of the worst actors on the show hands down. I'd much rather have had the girl who played Ros be Shae etc.
What I mean is, so many good actors and this is who they picked? Wooden delivery of her lines, few emotions, etc.
Manmademan
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oh, yeah. is she really a porn actress? her accent is atrocious. that's another "what were they thinking" casting decision.
edit: Ros was awesome
Funky Papa
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Sometimes I think I'm the only one who doesn't mind Shae at all.
She most definitely is. Look her name up sometime, lol.
I don't really think she's that bad. I think her oddities add to the odd, sort of mysterious personality she's supposed to have.
I don't mind her. She's not overly emotional like I think a lot of directors and actresses would try and go for in that role, and I like that. She feels more grounded, and I've met women with that sort of personality.
Ignatz Mouse
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Charles Dance is fucking fantastic. He's my favorite on the show.
Kit may not be great, but it's Kelly C who is find the most inconsistent. When she brings it, she can be great. Othertimes, she's painful.
Sean Bean was pretty great, too.
Kit may not be great, but it's Kelly C who is find the most inconsistent. When she brings it, she can be great. Othertimes, she's painful.
Sean Bean was pretty great, too.
"God's Beard!"
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Ned said he was the best in the show.
Sean Bean was pretty great, too.
I fucking miss Sean Bean and Mark Addy. Those two were sooooo good. I want more seasons of Ned going on and on about jooostice and Robert spitting booze and shitting on Jaime.
Both Robert and Ned were cast so well.
NathanMcMahon
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I think she's good too.
IAmtheFMan
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Yeah I see a lot of book readers seeing speculation and discussion of history, geography and so forth by non-book readers and feeling like they need to interject and go "well actually..." when no one was really asking for it. The show is the show and stands on its own merits.
*By the way, I'm aware of the irony of posting in this thread in order to decry it. So don't bother pointing that out. /SideshowBob
Trojita
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Bullshit. In the past I have corrected wrong information being espoused and answered questions people asked. I am well aware of what is covered in the show and the supplementary material offered by HBO.
Funky Papa
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Most (and I mean 99%, I MADE THE MATH) of the book readers in here are swell people. I've only seen a couple of deeply speculative posts that are suspectful.
Manmademan
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Charles Dance is fucking fantastic. He's my favorite on the show.
Kit may not be great, but it's Kelly C who is find the most inconsistent. When she brings it, she can be great. Othertimes, she's painful.
Sean Bean was pretty great, too.
"Kelly C" took me a minute, I almost had to google it. Of the dead cast so far, Ned and Drogo should have stuck around longer. Those roles were perfectly cast
I don't mind her either, but I don't think GoT is her best work.
I haven't seen that at all in this thread.
Manmademan
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not her best work? Did she somehow act her ass off in backdoor babes 27?
Catch phrase? What catch phrase? The only ones from the show so far that I know about are "It is known" and "Where are my dragons?".
You know nothing
Hasn't she only said that 2 or 3 times? I guess that makes it a catch phrase but it isn't overused or anything.
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