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So what's so special about Xbox One Tv features?
- Thread starter lefantome
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It does the exact same shit as the WiiU gamepad, only without the ability to adjust volume to an exact degree or from what I can tell, change to an exact channel.
Oh yeah, you also have to talk to your TV. I see no pitfalls with this technology what so ever
I am sure SmartGlass could easily do all that stuff. Also, I am also sure you could voice specify what channel you wanted. I don't think its "Sports!" and it takes you to a random sports program.
No pitfalls at all ...It does the exact same shit as the WiiU gamepad, only without the ability to adjust volume to an exact degree or from what I can tell, change to an exact channel.
Oh yeah, you also have to talk to your TV. I see no pitfalls with this technology what so ever
Me watching champions leagues final game all happy player on a break away all alone in front of the net
My girl " babeeee change Xbox to tlc "
Damn Chanel change I miss the goal go crazy break Xbox lol cus can't break the girl lol
But will it even be able to replace the overlay you're talking about? Afaik, it can't get channel info or change channels etc
edit: I guess it could pull the info from another source? TV Guide or something? and sync with your channel order? seems clunky
How could it possibly be faster than your current box, if all it does is control that box through IR?
One thing I am kind of excited about is the possibility for improved discoverability of TV shows. Since it keeps track of what everyone on Xbox Live is watching, it should be fairly easy for them to recommend shows (based on Trending, stuff friends like, etc).
That and the voice commands will be awesome. I can't imagine I'm the only one that can't remember that ESPN is channel 4XX on my service. The ability to change channel and perhaps do things like setup recordings using voice is pretty major for me.
The guide on most cable boxes is ridiculously slow from my experience.
That and the voice commands will be awesome. I can't imagine I'm the only one that can't remember that ESPN is channel 4XX on my service. The ability to change channel and perhaps do things like setup recordings using voice is pretty major for me.
The guide on most cable boxes is ridiculously slow from my experience.
VicDaMoan03
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Fantasy Football:
I think the fantasy feature is only for NFL.com leagues. I would guess the official NFL.com leagues are only a small percentage of fantasy football players. I’m an avid fantasy football player and never used the official NFL leagues. I see most people using Yahoo, ESPN, CBS Sports, etc. Also note DirecTV already has this same feature built in.
I think the fantasy feature is only for NFL.com leagues. I would guess the official NFL.com leagues are only a small percentage of fantasy football players. I’m an avid fantasy football player and never used the official NFL leagues. I see most people using Yahoo, ESPN, CBS Sports, etc. Also note DirecTV already has this same feature built in.
Graphics Horse
Member
Sounds similar enough to me, at least in terms of potential.
Main difference being the Xbox has a software picture in picture overlay. Wii U has a uh, physical overlay, if you kind of move the controller infront of the tv.
Metalmurphy
Member
I don't get it either.
I dunno about other countries but cable boxes software here in Portugal are already damn awesome. I'm pretty sure most of the stuff we can do in them we can't do it on the X1.
I dunno about other countries but cable boxes software here in Portugal are already damn awesome. I'm pretty sure most of the stuff we can do in them we can't do it on the X1.
They must be able to get all that info outside of the STB right? Its not like the channels swap around on various STB's, only for certain provider channels.
I am guessing they simply overlay their OS and UI stuff from a direct feed of the footage and UI the guide stuff from another source.
Goldenroad
Member
I also said it was not a selling feature to me, to be fair.
GetemMa
Member
They are slow but a lot better and faster than voice controls. If I say HBO which one will Kinect go to I have like 8 of them lol. The voice controls wipe out any gain of speed and other positives IMO.
Also if you use game mode on your TV the Xbox one is actually slow than selecting inputs. When you switch between tv or games you need to dig through the menus to find the right mode. With inputs it stays programed in so when I switch to xbox it is in game mode. When I select my dvr it is in THX mode.
BradleyLove
Member
I don't get it.
Everything it speaks of, I can do (and would rather do) on my second screen, that being my iPad.
Furthermore, my iPad can also control my TV, AVR and Sky box. Add into this my TV is a "smart" TV, I'm not really seeing the point.
I assumed the Xbone would be a single set-top box, but needing a cable/satellite TV plugged into it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Other than play games on the big TV, my iPad appears to cover everything MS is proposing.
Everything it speaks of, I can do (and would rather do) on my second screen, that being my iPad.
Furthermore, my iPad can also control my TV, AVR and Sky box. Add into this my TV is a "smart" TV, I'm not really seeing the point.
I assumed the Xbone would be a single set-top box, but needing a cable/satellite TV plugged into it doesn't seem to make much sense.
Other than play games on the big TV, my iPad appears to cover everything MS is proposing.
Haha thanks for that it actually is really funny ..
Like I said befor I see it happening a lot with people all watching tv and something saying anything "Xbox" and shit going a wire lol
But that link is actually really funny lol people all in to the reveal and the stage guy fucking with their stream lol hahah
For Eu and probably rest of the world, it doesn't seems different from a cheap set top box. The only thing that count is: "are services and contents available?" which are feeded throught the internet, not prehistoric cables or sats.
Imho the selling point of a console/set top box hibrid are, except for games:
- Standard platform, it will be updated for years and it will be the same in every household.
- It's powerful and made to last years, it won't have problem to run "new things" hopefully.
- Can be expanded with multiple compatible accessories (kinect, ps eye etc..)
- ability to stream content in the entire house using miracast like services (at least on ps4)
- broad compatibility with other devices: windows, smartphones etc..
Imho the selling point of a console/set top box hibrid are, except for games:
- Standard platform, it will be updated for years and it will be the same in every household.
- It's powerful and made to last years, it won't have problem to run "new things" hopefully.
- Can be expanded with multiple compatible accessories (kinect, ps eye etc..)
- ability to stream content in the entire house using miracast like services (at least on ps4)
- broad compatibility with other devices: windows, smartphones etc..
BruceLeeRoy
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I can see absolutely no benefit to it and furthermore it is the one thing about the conference that really scares me about MS as a whole and how they are perceiving the market.
There is no "Problem" that they are addressing with the XBone. The living room as they put it has become a place where people watch shows, browse the internet and mess with their phones all at once. People aren't going to stop using their tablets or their phones because XBone has content switching. It seems to be a big focus of their strategy and one that to me shows a complete lack of insight on where the market is going.
There is no "Problem" that they are addressing with the XBone. The living room as they put it has become a place where people watch shows, browse the internet and mess with their phones all at once. People aren't going to stop using their tablets or their phones because XBone has content switching. It seems to be a big focus of their strategy and one that to me shows a complete lack of insight on where the market is going.
ThisWreckage
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The fact that this doesn't have DVR capabilities shows how short sighted the philosophy behind the box is. I would much rather watch Hulu or Netflix than hook a new box up through a cable box. So in order to use this, you have to have cable, and cable is slowly dying. This won't magically make people pick cable back up.
Its actually kind of ironic how it defeats the entire purpose of the name of the console
So, in the guide there is a tab called 'App channels.' I'm guessing that is an integration point for Netflix, Hulu, and like services.
I think if you was actually talking about the possibility of the Xbox One on say a TV or general tech forum it would sound very enticing and promising. It's a unified input meaning you dont ever need to change inputs again, which is a big pain for a lot of people, if the overlay works well the Xbox will be snappier and the tv guide faster than a regular cable box, which I very much welcome too, if you dont want to use Kinect/the Controller your iPad/Phone can instantly turn into a remote control, and a very snazzy touch screen one at that. Skypeing with family is a very big thing and while Skypeing on your phone/iPad is convenient, if your grandparents are seeing the grandkids seeing that on a huge screen is all that more enticing, certain things are ridiculous like booking movie tickets on the tv, why would I ever do that unless it was literally 1/2 steps and done, if it remembers your local theatre etc that could be useful in a pinch though. The applications they could build around it could be amazing, a lot of people hear songs on adverts and dont have enough time to launch their phones app that will tell them what the song is, but imagine if you could just say "Xbox Identify" and the app appears and identifies the song on the advert, that could be really, really useful, I think it could be used in a lot of very interesting ways but then again theres a lot of technology that can be used in a lot of very interesting and compelling ways. What it basically comes down to is if Microsoft will realise all of that potential, and I hope that it works as a passthrough for TV even if their is no guide support etc for that particular box/cable service, so I at least can use the Xbox as my hub for everything and still have the Xbox OS overlay on top of it
ThisWreckage
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Yes, but the PS4 will have all of those. So the thing that differentiates Xbox One from the PS4 ends up being completely irrelevant.
MikeE21286
Member
If my gf can do everything with her voice without having to text me about how the remote works and why it's not working when I'm not there...I will be a happy man 
Yeah, but can you imagine the NeoGAF uproar then? With what we have the features are primarily software, but did have a little effect on the overall architecture. Imagine if there were expensive hardware components in there? The "tv-first" trolling would be significantly worse.
If it is integrated into a guide in a meaningful way then it is still unique on the Xbox One side.
That said, this is a feature like everything else. Not everyone has to use it or find value in it. I'd argue that the other features they showed in the OS are just as differentiating as the TV stuff.
could IPTV operators provide client apps for their service and and remove need for separate box? I dont see why not if there will be AppStore...or if they do it with MS.
Only problem I see is that in my case IPTV is on separate VLAN. Telco provided router is preconfigured with two VLANs - IPTV and INTERNET. So Xbox would need two LAN ports (1 for internet and 1 for iptv) or some other solution from the operator
EDIT: I guess Wifi could be used for Internet and LAN port for IPTV
Only problem I see is that in my case IPTV is on separate VLAN. Telco provided router is preconfigured with two VLANs - IPTV and INTERNET. So Xbox would need two LAN ports (1 for internet and 1 for iptv) or some other solution from the operator
EDIT: I guess Wifi could be used for Internet and LAN port for IPTV
That is actually one of the things people are missing and they just choose to focus on HDMI-In.
The Nature Roy
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This is still be fully detailed I believe, but a recent Verge story claims that it cannot handle DVR functions. The article claims it can only be used for watching live TV and can't set recordings or bring up listings of programs you have saved on your DVR to watch, etc.
We'll see. If it can't even do that, it's pretty worthless to me as a TV watching device.
PistolGrip
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Google TV does everything this does correct? Mind you my google tv box is pretty terrible (sony one). It crashes and freezes all the time. If PS4 doesnt have these features then I may get an XBone just as a replaement for my googletv once the price goes down.
Has power consumption and fan noise been discussed?
Lets say I play for 3 hours, my wife wants to watch tv for 2, I come back to play for another 2 after she's done and then we decide to watch a movie during dinner.
That's a full work day of play time. With the cable box on, x1 on. I always took ps3/360 breaks just to let them cool down cause i hated how loud they got, especially the 360. And that was before the elite and most of the 360's were overheating.....
I wonder how well this has been field tested as far as room noise and heat. It's bulky too so no closed off or squared/rectangular shelves for a lot of people.
I tried the TVii stuff which was cool but I could still watch tv faster on online services and my cable box. I don't really surf cable tv, I know what I want to watch and I watch it. I don't look for tv shows. I'll sometimes watch my boxing matches a day later pre recorded.
Lets say I play for 3 hours, my wife wants to watch tv for 2, I come back to play for another 2 after she's done and then we decide to watch a movie during dinner.
That's a full work day of play time. With the cable box on, x1 on. I always took ps3/360 breaks just to let them cool down cause i hated how loud they got, especially the 360. And that was before the elite and most of the 360's were overheating.....
I wonder how well this has been field tested as far as room noise and heat. It's bulky too so no closed off or squared/rectangular shelves for a lot of people.
I tried the TVii stuff which was cool but I could still watch tv faster on online services and my cable box. I don't really surf cable tv, I know what I want to watch and I watch it. I don't look for tv shows. I'll sometimes watch my boxing matches a day later pre recorded.
System scales power consumption based upon what you do. Games being the major use of power, some browsing and film watching has to be pretty low.
Eurogamer/DigitalFoundry said this
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one
That seems more like a matter of doing all the wrong things, not simply doing too much. Consoles like the Xbox and Playstation end up with massive amounts of storage and could work nicely as DVRs as a secondary purpose, so simply not having that functionality but all this other crap seems to be a solution looking for a problem. Or maybe it's going to be really good for sports fans and no one else.
Perhaps, but consider the hypothetical. Instead of:
Game Console
Roku box or equivalent
Cable STB (with DVR built-in)
Blu-Ray/DVD Player (if console != PS3)
You'd instead have:
Xbox One.
In that hypothetical, I'd actually be interested in the box. You'd essentially have a plug and play HTPC that can play modern games at decent detail. There'd be far more value, and I think the public would eat that up.
This so much. In some ways, it would have been better for MS to spend this energy on some super Xbox app, something current 360 owners could mess around with now (on the phones and tablets you correctly pointed out we already use while watching TV) but would really be almost a second controller for the Xbone. Imagine if you could take map, inventory, and other non-time-critical controls and put them on your phone for some games; that sort of thing.
I've been able to browse the web on my TV for ages now, since the original Wii at least, and I've never found that compelling. I haven't had cable for 6 years or so so that's no benefit. In fact console gaming + streaming video directly take the place of cable in my household by design.
Camp Freddie
Member
I can see the next generation of rickrolls...
*clicks link*
*youtube loads video on XBox*
"XBox, music store, search "Rick Astley", select, buy, confirm"
It's almost like walking up to Sergey Brin and yelling "OK Glass, image search, goatse, save picture to profile"
More seriously, the following scenario will occur, to the chagrin of naughty boys everywhere:
*Kinect Recognises "EvilDad"*
*"Evildad" is signed in to XBox Live*
"Xbox: Shutdown"
"Awwwww..... Daaaaaadd"
I use my 360 for a few apps that my 3 year-old smart TV doesn't have, so I like having a few things like Netflix or whatever.
But I've never going to use a console (with a games controller) when I could use the TV itself with it's dedicated remote control.
*clicks link*
*youtube loads video on XBox*
"XBox, music store, search "Rick Astley", select, buy, confirm"
It's almost like walking up to Sergey Brin and yelling "OK Glass, image search, goatse, save picture to profile"
More seriously, the following scenario will occur, to the chagrin of naughty boys everywhere:
*Kinect Recognises "EvilDad"*
*"Evildad" is signed in to XBox Live*
"Xbox: Shutdown"
"Awwwww..... Daaaaaadd"
I use my 360 for a few apps that my 3 year-old smart TV doesn't have, so I like having a few things like Netflix or whatever.
But I've never going to use a console (with a games controller) when I could use the TV itself with it's dedicated remote control.
BradleyLove
Member
Your bolded comment really couldn't be any more wrong. Peeps on TV forums especially are highly likely to have separate settings depending upon the content viewed so a single input is a bad thing. On my TV, I'd never game using the THX setting so I'd still have to fettle with the TV.
As for your other points, they already covered by tablets and/or smart TVs.
NullPointer
Member
I still don't have any idea of what was supposed to impress from the reveal. Not one bit.
Focusing on smartglass seems to me to be the better move. The Xbox is not going to be the only device out there that will use voice. And why deal with Kinect and it's gesture recognition when you can use your smartphone or tablet to control things?
I'd expect the competition to be able to put much better functionality together, and on the cheap too. Now if the BONE *replaced* the cable box *and* your cable subscription? Yeah, that would be news.
Focusing on smartglass seems to me to be the better move. The Xbox is not going to be the only device out there that will use voice. And why deal with Kinect and it's gesture recognition when you can use your smartphone or tablet to control things?
I'd expect the competition to be able to put much better functionality together, and on the cheap too. Now if the BONE *replaced* the cable box *and* your cable subscription? Yeah, that would be news.
Nope. You won't be able to afford to eat after Microsoft is done with your bank account.
