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[firehawk12]

You can not redo kindof just felt like an entirely pointless movie, it's like the awkward downtime between two interesting events (the aftermath of 2, and what's presumably going to happen in the next one)

the whole movie kind of felt like nothing important happened. yeah there was some interesting imagery and the action scenes were pretty good but it felt more like a bridge than anything of it's own- like the build up episodes to a finale

The only thing I can come up with

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is that the film reinforces the idea that Shinji has absolutely no agency at all and that both times that he tried to accomplish something of his own will, he was always acting according to his father's plans.

 

[Kazzy]

The only thing I can come up with

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is that the film reinforces the idea that Shinji has absolutely no agency at all and that both times that he tried to accomplish something of his own will, he was always acting according to his father's plans.

That just seems far too reliant on coincidence to be of any real merit, though.

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Particularly in the case of Gendo, someone we are led to believe is highly calculating.

 

[firehawk12]

That just seems far too reliant on coincidence to be of any real merit, though.

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Particularly in the case of Gendo, someone we are led to believe is highly calculating.

Well, he

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didn't know that Kaworu would show Shinji the truth, but was still able to adapt that into his plan. The fact that even Kaworu didn't know the whole picture though, just shows that Gendo was probably even manipulating him to some extent. Now whether it's some deus ex machina bullshit with Gendo or just happy coincidences, I have no idea

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[Soma]

Just watched this again (my third time already jeez) with my cousin who's been a fan of the series and movies for a long time and couldn't wait to finally watch 3.33

Man.

It's pretty depressing watching someone go from legitimate excitement to confusion and then to utter disappointment over the course of a film.

 

[Akainu]

Is the action at least good?

 

[Jinroh]

You can not redo kindof just felt like an entirely pointless movie, it's like the awkward downtime between two interesting events (the aftermath of 2, and what's presumably going to happen in the next one)

the whole movie kind of felt like nothing important happened. yeah there was some interesting imagery and the action scenes were pretty good but it felt more like a bridge than anything of it's own- like the build up episodes to a finale

I totally agree. I am so much more interested in knowing what happened before the third movie. Waiting 2-3 years for that wasn't really worth it, even though I liked the movie.

 

[Kazzy]

Is the action at least good?

It depends on who you are asking. I personally thought it was a bit of a mess, and didn't much care for the liberal use of CG. Others liked it, though there isn't all that much, truth be told.

 

[BadWolf]

I totally agree. I am so much more interested in knowing what happened before the third movie. Waiting 2-3 years for that wasn't really worth it, even though I liked the movie.

The opposite for me, I much appreciated the unexpected time skip and the confusion that ensued. It was one of the major reasons I enjoyed it so much.

 

[Jex]

Is the action at least good?

There's part of a scene near the end that's okay. The rest is a complete mess, visually.

 

[daveo42]

You can not redo kindof just felt like an entirely pointless movie, it's like the awkward downtime between two interesting events (the aftermath of 2, and what's presumably going to happen in the next one)

the whole movie kind of felt like nothing important happened. yeah there was some interesting imagery and the action scenes were pretty good but it felt more like a bridge than anything of it's own- like the build up episodes to a finale

It felt more like a setup for the last movie. For all intents and purposes, this could have been the first movie of a series instead of the third with the last bit of two tacked on at the beginning or a short prologue to get the audience up to speed.

Since there was a massive shift in direction from the original series to the new vision, the audience is pretty much in the dark about what's going on and why. We never fully get the story of what happened between Nerv, Gendo, Kaworu, and the rest of the cast can can only make some general assumptions because next to nothing is explained.

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The time skip didn't do it any favors either.

I'm hoping the last movie builds on what was started in three and we finally get a solid conclusion to the story without being overly depressing.

Is the action at least good?

It was, for the most part, ok, but nothing close to some of the stuff from the first two movies.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

Like I said before, they can probably create a mini-series or another movie covering those missing gaps. There are enough materials to do so.

I'd be up for another movie, but I'd be afraid it would take another 4-5 years for THAT to come out.

 

[Krev]

eh, I don't think EoE Shinji is much different in that regard. He gets into Eva-01 because Misato tells him to and his decision to end instrumentality comes after a LOT of nudging from Kaworu and Rei. It's not as if they were really pushing for the end of everything and Shinji was saying "hey, come on, life is worth living!" :lol

Perhpas the reason that I feel differently about it comes down to how much more powerfully EoE depicts Shinji's internal conflict. He is for much of the film without agency, but the film is really about his anguish and frustration and despair, and it makes you feel it. 3.0 was about the workings of the plot, and Shinji was just a pawn to that end. Even if events are just as out of his control in EoE, things are always brought down to the human scale of his pain, so I could connect with and try to understand him. That makes his (sort of) turnaround at the end much more meaningful.
It helps that the moment he decides to do something because it feels right is one where he makes a smart decision, and not a mindfuckingly stupid one.

I think of Kaworu and Rei in those sequences as being there to illustrate Shinji's conscience by giving him someone to talk to. Like all the characters he interacts with in the last two TV episodes. I don't really think of it as Shinji deciding to revive humanity because a bunch of angels told him too.

Is the action at least good?

Conceptually, yes, but the execution is poor.
So no.

Like I said before, they can probably create a mini-series or another movie covering those missing gaps. There are enough materials to do so.

Please no. Other than the fact that it would probably suck, the mystery and shock value of the opening scenes is one of the best things about the film. They shouldn't destroy that.

 

[Dresden]

 

[hateradio]

^ Why are they dogs?

 

[HEALTH_DISCO]

What ever happened to Pen Pen!?

There he is.

 

[chronos4590]

^ Lol OMG. Can (Not) Un-see

 

[Pooya]

Interesting.

 

[HEALTH_DISCO]

^ Lol OMG. Can (Not) Un-see

Yeah I know, the resemblance is uncanny !

 

[Veronica]

I love the shit out of those massive blasts angels make. You know, the ones with the strange sound that levels everything with a flash.

 

[firehawk12]

Hey everyone. At least Eva 3.33 isn't Star Trek Into Darkness!

 

[Moaradin]

Hey everyone. At least Eva 3.33 isn't Star Trek Into Darkness!

EVA isn't a good movie?

 

[BocoDragon]

Eva 3.33 was much more entertaining than Into Darkness. Agreed.

Both are flawed to high hell though.

 

[Replicant]

There he is.

#MESS

Satellite receiver on top of penguin-like structure supported by slinky-dog-like body?

 

[ZoddGutts]

Hey everyone. At least Eva 3.33 isn't Star Trek Into Darkness!

The Abram's Star Trek movies are generic action movies, Eva 3.33 is just a bad movie all around.

 

[cjkeats]

So This evening I watched all three of the movies back to back. They blended together nicely when watched back to back.

God I can't wait until 4.0.

 

[firehawk12]

EVA isn't a good movie?

The Abram's Star Trek movies are generic action movies, Eva 3.33 is just a bad movie all around.

I was trying to say that Eva 3.33 uses the source material in a way that isn't sycophantic and pandery.

Both are flawed to high hell though.

In every other respect though, this is pretty much true.

 

[ant1532]

as someone who vaguely watched the whole series, can someone explain to me what this is?

is this like the series redone or some movie or something?

 

[Krev]

as someone who vaguely watched the whole series, can someone explain to me what this is?

is this like the series redone or some movie or something?

It's the third instalment in an AU movie series.

 

[firehawk12]

as someone who vaguely watched the whole series, can someone explain to me what this is?

is this like the series redone or some movie or something?

In short, it's a (loose) retelling of the original series in the form of four movies.

 

[ant1532]

In short, it's a (loose) retelling of the original series in the form of four movies.

:O

and this(3.0) is the third one out of the four?

 

[Krev]

:O

and this(3.0) is the third one out of the four?

Yes.
It's really an alternate universe of the original Eva.

 

[ant1532]

Yes.
It's really an alternate universe of the original Eva.

whaa, so it's like a retelling of the original series with some differences making it a sort of alternate universe then?

i was trying to remember the series upon seeing this thread but I can barely remember jack shit.... im thinking about watching it, or maybe i should just watch these movies?

 

[Krev]

whaa, so it's like a retelling of the original series with some differences making it a sort of alternate universe then?

Yeah, pretty much.

i was trying to remember the series upon seeing this thread but I can barely remember jack shit.... im thinking about watching it, or maybe i should just watch these movies?

The original series is better, and the new movies are playing on your knowledge of the original, so I'd watch watch that again before the new movies.

 

[firehawk12]

whaa, so it's like a retelling of the original series with some differences making it a sort of alternate universe then?

i was trying to remember the series upon seeing this thread but I can barely remember jack shit.... im thinking about watching it, or maybe i should just watch these movies?

Well, thematically they're similar and in terms of the broad strokes, so far the films evoke the series. But it's also not really a substitute for the series, since it goes into completely different (plot) directions.

 

[Moaradin]

The movies are no replacement for the series. Watch it.

These are good though. The first two anyways, haven't seen this one yet.

 

[Ratrat]

Just watched. It wasnt good at all but I enjoyed the opening scene for some reason. The characters looked aged 3 or 4 years to me, it would have been awesome to see them actually look like adults.

 

[BocoDragon]

I was trying to say that Eva 3.33 uses the source material in a way that isn't sycophantic and pandery.

I think so too. Eva 3.33 might be deeply dis-satisfying, but there's nothing about it that feels dishonest to the tone and story of the original shows. I came away feeling that nothing about Eva was ruined, and in so many ways I enjoyed my time watching it.

When I watch Star Trek: Into Darkness I felt the the corpse of something beloved was re-animated and infused with braindead DNA... It's far worse.

 

[ant1532]

Well, thematically they're similar and in terms of the broad strokes, so far the films evoke the series. But it's also not really a substitute for the series, since it goes into completely different (plot) directions.

Yeah, pretty much.

The original series is better, and the new movies are playing on your knowledge of the original, so I'd watch watch that again before the new movies.

The movies are no replacement for the series. Watch it.

These are good though. The first two anyways, haven't seen this one yet.

hmmm ok, thanks y'all! another quick thing, they made like a movie before these which was like a different ending to the original series because there was a lot of backlash or something right? or did I just make that up?

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I know it's not that good, but I found it interesting because it blew my mind with

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the time skip

and other stuff.

 

[BocoDragon]

hmmm ok, thanks y'all! another quick thing, they made like a movie before these which was like a different ending to the original series because there was a lot of backlash or something right? or did I just make that up?

End of Evangelion, from 1997, yes.

You might as well consider that part of the original series. There is some debate as to whether it replaces the last two episodes, or compliments them, but it fits together with the old shows.

To add my two cents: the new movies definitely let you start off anew and reintroduces you to the series, but it is so different. Whether you start with the new movies, or return to the old show first, I think you'll eventually want to go on to see the other version, because they are so different from one another. The events of each version plays off the other, so they're complimentary. Watch them both..

 

[Krev]

hmmm ok, thanks y'all! another quick thing, they made like a movie before these which was like a different ending to the original series because there was a lot of backlash or something right? or did I just make that up?

That's The End of Evangelion.
It's sort of a replacement for the original ending, but sort of the same. It's hard to classify. People say they made it because of the backlash, but I think the real reason is that they ran out of money when they were finishing the TV series and wanted to go back and do something on a big scale when the money started pouring in.
It's really, really good, probably the best Evangelion thing that exists. I recommend you go through the series again and watch that when you're finished.

 

[Moaradin]

End of Evangelion was fucking insane. I would be happy if this movie series ended half as crazy as that did.

 

[kirblar]

The movies are no replacement for the series. Watch it.

These are good though. The first two anyways, haven't seen this one yet.

Especially since

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The movies are almost certainly actually a sequel to the original series.

 

[UnluckyKate]

Especially since

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The movies are almost certainly actually a sequel to the original series.

mindfcuk

what

 

[number47]

25 minutes in. what did i just watch. beautiful.but..what

 

[NeOak]

mindfcuk

what

Thats the general consensus.

 

[javac]

Finally watched it. Loved it


I'll probably post my reactions and thoughts in the spoiler thread tomorrow but I loved it. This is coming from a guy who loved the original series and the original ending.

 

[B.K.]

Did anyone else read the final chapter of the Evangelion manga? I wonder if Rebuild will have an ending like that.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Did anyone else read the final chapter of the Evangelion manga? I wonder if Rebuild will have an ending like that.

Wait that finally finished?

 

[B.K.]

Wait that finally finished?

The final chapter came out a couple days ago in Japan.