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Game of Thrones: Spoiler reaction to Season 3 - Episode NINE!!!!

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Im still stressing about this episode. My wife happened to be there while everything went down and we got into a huge argument over how graphic it was (stupid I know). Anyway, I dont think I ever felt so much emotion over tv (movies included) and although very heart breaking, gotta admit it was awesome.

I guess I have no choice now but to pick up the books. Damn it!!
 
Trying to remember my reaction to this when I read the book about ten years ago. This might've been the scene that really brought home the fact that this series doesn't really follow the rules. What a gut punch.
 
DBT85 said:
She wasn't pregnant in the book.
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She wasn't there at all, I thought. IIRC the book version of her was returned to her family, which was rewarded for coming back into the Lannister fold with some new gifts of land. It's heavily implied that Tywin orchestrated her seduction of Robb.
 
My mother is still in a shock.

Well, I was also 8 years ago when I read that segment. I think that I had to reread it two times just to connect everything together.
 
Also, for book readers, how does the show's version play out differently than the book? Feel free to spoiler tag it, or pm or whatever.
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
Also, for book readers, how does the show's version play out differently than the book? Feel free to spoiler tag it, or pm or whatever.
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Not really spoilers at this point, but just in case
It is pretty similar, but Rob's wife is not there and not pregnant. There are a few more characters around. In the book it is ambiguous as to whether are not Aria is killed by the hound for a number of chapters. There are some more things with the rest of the army that I think they will show next episode.
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
Also, for book readers, how does the show's version play out differently than the book? Feel free to spoiler tag it, or pm or whatever.
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From what I remember, the differences:

(I'll spoiler just in case)

- Robb's wife, Jeyne Westerling, doesn't attend the Red Wedding but stays in Riverrun.

- Caetelyn kills the court jester in the book. Not Frey's wife
 
PsychoWARD23 said:
Also, for book readers, how does the show's version play out differently than the book? Feel free to spoiler tag it, or pm or whatever.
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Not much differently. Jeyne Westerling (Robb's wife in the books) isn't at the wedding. The Northmen (who are better-developed in the books) put up a much more valiant fight against the Freys, and Cat slits the throat of Jinglebell, the simpleton jester, instead of the throat of Walder Frey's wife. Other than that it was pretty damn similar.

Oh yeah, and the "musicians" at the wedding are pretty bad, since (as we find out) they aren't musicians at all. One of the hints GRRM drops leading up to the Red Wedding.
 
Beysus said:
From what I remember, the differences:

(I'll spoiler just in case)

- Robb's wife, Jeyne Westerling, doesn't attend the Red Wedding but stays in Riverrun.

- Caetelyn kills the court jester in the book. Not Frey's wife
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She kills one of Frey's sons, who has a mental disability.

EDIT: My mistake. One of Frey's grandsons...I think. There's a lot of them.
 
KingGondo said:
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Not much differently. Jeyne Westerling (Robb's wife in the books) isn't at the wedding. The Northmen (who are better-developed in the books) put up a much more valiant fight against the Freys, and Cat slits the throat of Jinglebell, the simpleton jester, instead of the throat of Walder Frey's wife. Other than that it was pretty damn similar.

Oh yeah, and the "musicians" at the wedding are pretty bad, since (as we find out) they aren't musicians at all. One of the hints GRRM drops leading up to the Red Wedding.
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Ah, that's what people meant by the band. Also, what is the
table flipping with Robb? Saw that online. Apparently one of the things they left out.
 
Eidan said:
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She kills one of Frey's sons, who has a mental disability.

EDIT: My mistake. One of Frey's grandsons...I think. There's a lot of them.
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Wow, totally forgot that they were family O_O

I also liked how the show hinted at the no alcohol policy from Bolton's camp we saw in the book. Bolton didn want to drink because he knew a fight was coming. While Robb's men were drowned with alcohol in the books.
 
god damn, as a book reader I was like 'oh yeah, I'm ready'

then there was fucking medieval abortions happing and I was all 'wait fucking... .forgot some shit in the book apparently wtf'

man this lived up to the book telling and then some. I'm not saying movie better than the book, but this sequence was better than the book sequence. They pulled no punches.

oh as for book differences
what happens to his wife then? I guess she becomes nothing, because.... man that's a change and a half for the show? for the better though, that was graphic and disturbing as shit.

I loved the way Robb was just too shocked to do anything while his wife took a blade to their unborn child. just total disbelief. Really sold it, because that's probably what would really happen if you saw that thing, total brain break.
 
I really only felt bad for Catelyn, who I know isn't the smarted person in Westeros, but god damn if she didn't have it the worst of any of the characters thus far.

She had to witness: her son Bran lose the use of his legs never to walk again and she died knowing he is missing as well as her daughters being held hostage by the people she hates, her husband was executed not long after she told him not to go to King's Landing, she watched her son Robb get killed in front of her by his supposed allies while she was powerless to do anything, her home of Winterfell is in ruins, etc. All of this set into motion because of the Lannisters, and she never even got any kind of solace or revenge for anything that happened.

You could argue that some of what happened was her fault (such as letting Jaime go) but when she stood there completely without hope before she got her neck slit, I just felt sick to my stomach.
 
Sailor said:
I don't understand though. Was Lord Frey behind it all? Just because Rob Stark went back on his oath to marry one of his daughters??

And why did one of the men say "Lannister sends his regards"?
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seriously? have you not been paying attention at all this season?
 
Panzon said:
Im still stressing about this episode. My wife happened to be there while everything went down and we got into a huge argument over how graphic it was (stupid I know). Anyway, I dont think I ever felt so much emotion over tv (movies included) and although very heart breaking, gotta admit it was awesome.

I guess I have no choice now but to pick up the books. Damn it!!
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Same with mine. Was the first episode she saw ( not really interested in the show ) ... And we got in a fight since she couldn't stop laughing througj the gore.
Can't say I disagree with her, but I was possed that she was dissing on the whole show juste because of this stupid red wedding.

Liked the red wedding in idea ... Loathed the execution. Much much too " in your face " with people getting their throats cut everywhere, especially at the end, with Walder Frey's wife and then instantly Cat Stark. Pretty ridiculous, useless, and made much less of a impact.
Ned's beheading was perfect. Shocking, graphic but not too much, and unexpected.
This was so graphic that it looked like a gore Z-Movie, thus making look the whole scene ridiculous instead of shocking, even if it was unexpected.
Very disappointed by this ending.
Rest of the episode was very nice though.
 
I though it was weird that they just hung on that shot of Cat for so long right at the end. After she cut the girl's throat. I thought an arrow was going to come out of nowhere and finished her and then the guy walks up and cuts her throat. Another few seconds and the timing would have felt comedic.
 
I'll agree about Cat. A real tragic hero. This is totally not ending I wanted for her. The episode showed that se started liking Talisa and then... Also, probably the saddest scene is the start of the attack. Where that killer stabs her at the belly. I wouldn't like to be in Robb's place. Everything he had, gone in a minute. Until now this is probably the saddest scene. The wolf scene was also sad, especially when it was dying facing Arya. Damn, I hope that nothing like that will follow...
 
I must've really missed something with Catelyn because I never, ever liked her. I can't understand how so many people are able to just disregard how she treated Jon for simply existing. She was just as cruel as Cersei is. Apart from that I always found her boring, she never actually did anything other than worrying about whatever was about to happen. And to blame Jon for as much as she possibly could, of course.

catfish said:
god damn, as a book reader I was like 'oh yeah, I'm ready'

then there was fucking medieval abortions happing and I was all 'wait fucking... .forgot some shit in the book apparently wtf'

man this lived up to the book telling and then some. I'm not saying movie better than the book, but this sequence was better than the book sequence. They pulled no punches.

oh as for book differences
what happens to his wife then? I guess she becomes nothing, because.... man that's a change and a half for the show? for the better though, that was graphic and disturbing as shit.

I loved the way Robb was just too shocked to do anything while his wife took a blade to their unborn child. just total disbelief. Really sold it, because that's probably what would really happen if you saw that thing, total brain break.
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As for your spoiler:
In the books it's revealed that Tywin Lannister plotted with the family of the wife to seduce Robb so he'd break his vow to the Freys. After the "wedding" the family just goes back home richer than before (rewards from Tywin I guess) and continues to be good Lannister servants
 
Episode had almost zero impact for me. I think its because its been a meme that anyone can die since before the tv series started.
 
Fox1304 said:
Liked the red wedding in idea ... Loathed the execution. Much much too " in your face " with people getting their throats cut everywhere, especially at the end, with Walder Frey's wife and then instantly Cat Stark. Pretty ridiculous, useless, and made much less of a impact.
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But that's the point of the red wedding. It's the massacring of Robb Stark, Catelyn Stark and various other lords of northern houses. It's meant to be in your face.
 
I went on and reread ADWD
Wull's speech when the army of Stannis and North is stuck near Winterfell. And it gave me lots of FEELs. “Winter is almost upon us, boy. And winter is death. I would sooner my men die fighting for the Ned’s little girl than alone and hungry in the snow, weeping tears that freeze upon their cheeks. No one sings songs of men who die like that. As for me, I am old. This will be my last winter. Let me bathe in Bolton blood before I die. I want to feel it spatter across my face when my axe bites deep into a Bolton skull. I want to lick it off my lips and die with the taste of it on my tongue.”

Bring it on motherfucker.
 
Lord Snow said:
But that's the point of the red wedding. It's the massacring of Robb Stark, Catelyn Stark and various other lords of northern houses. It's meant to be in your face.
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There's " in your face " story telling and " in your face " graphic violence.

They could have shown the massacre begin, and close doors, or shown arya under a table seeing the body fall one after the others, or so many other things.

It's just the " cutting throat with blood everywhere in full frame and full frontal four times in 30s " that I found a bit too much. Especially the last one, between the 10s pause and the sudden cut to the credits ...
 
Am I the only one just plain disgusted? I mean shock value and all but it felt too much. Like I don't want to keep watching anymore, I just don't..
 
Fox1304 said:
There's " in your face " story telling and " in your face " graphic violence.

They could have shown the massacre begin, and close doors, or shown arya under a table seeing the body fall one after the others, or so many other things.

It's just the " cutting throat with blood everywhere in full frame and full frontal four times in 30s " that I found a bit too much. Especially the last one, between the 10s pause and the sudden cut to the credits ...
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It's funny because lots of people were afraid they would chicken out and do this. This was supposed to be a brutal, gory, disgusting massacre of the Northern people.
 
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My reaction to S09
 
Fey said:
It's funny because lots of people were afraid they would chicken out and do this. This was supposed to be a brutal, gory, disgusting massacre of the Northern people.
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Agreed. This was a necessity -- thank god they didn't go the weak ass way he described. It's understandable when they pull punches and don't show massive skirmishes due to budgetary constraints.. something like this needs to be portrayed as it happened.
 
Fox1304 said:
There's " in your face " story telling and " in your face " graphic violence.

They could have shown the massacre begin, and close doors, or shown arya under a table seeing the body fall one after the others, or so many other things.

It's just the " cutting throat with blood everywhere in full frame and full frontal four times in 30s " that I found a bit too much. Especially the last one, between the 10s pause and the sudden cut to the credits ...
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This is true, but Game of thrones has always joined "in your face" story telling with "in your face" violence, gore, sex, whatever the situation is. This was no different. In fact it would have been out of place if they went soft with a scene like this.
 
So everyone dies! Like that's never happened before. But everyone is upset because they liked some of the people and the show made it really gory with blood, guts and screaming? Sounds like a fun time. Will give this show a try

It's like people have never experienced good fiction before.
This is what happens when Micheal Bay movies or Sports tend to be your only entertainment.
 
Dat troll with the hypothetic son of Robb named Eddard.
As a book reader I wasn't that impacted (damn just gave me the Great Jon, and what's with Bolton running away after being slapped by Catelyn), but the pain I felt years ago when reading hasn't really fade away yet, I still remember being unable to sleep after this lol
 
oatmeal said:
This was the biggest crazy moment since The Wire or The Shield (I'm assuming everyone knows the two I'm talking about).
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The Shield had a few of them: (Season 1, Season 5 and Season 7 spoilers)
the Terry kill was the most shocking thing I'd ever seen on TV. This might have been if I hadn't known the outcome already. Lem's murder was pretty brutal too.. yikes! Shane's mental destruction and murder of his family blew me away too. What an awesome show.

The Wire got me good a number of times too. I think most of the deaths in The Sopranos were not entirely shocking although obviously they were still affecting..
 
Question on upcoming episodes for next week and the next season. ASOS:
Do you think we will see the Wolf-headed Robb next week?

Also, how far into next season does the Purple Wedding and the appearance of Lady Stoneheart occur?
 
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