Metalmurphy
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Well I'm not sure what you consider max player count to be, but its usually around 40-60.
Planetside 2 and DC Universe Online coming to PS4
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Well I'm not sure what you consider max player count to be, but its usually around 40-60.
About Jaguar to 3770 comparison.
4ghz 3770k has around 256 gflops of SP performance and around 128 gflops of DP performance
6x Jaguar cores has 76 gflops of SP performance and 29 gflops of DP performance.
Only 6 cores, because it seems that only that much is usable for games right now [KZ:SF presentation]
Sorcerer Supreme
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Disappointing.
You need higher clockspeeds because PS2 really like single threaded performance. My 3570k does well at 4.2Ghz though I should really go up to 4.4-4.6.
Edit:
AWESOME!
Mercury Fred
Banned
Yup, the game's very healthy on PS3. Tons of players, lots of content (the 7th DLC pack was just released) there are now four more power sets than at launch, raids, PvP, etc. It's still buggy here and there, but performance is mostly improved. I've been and on and off player since day one (more on than off though) and I still really love the game.
Hmm, it would be a devastating blow to the game of there isn't continuity between PS3 and PS4 for DCUO. The developers have been tweeting all day that it's their intent to share servers and for characters and accounts to transfer. Hope they can make it happen.
Jake Tower
Banned
Sony, you had my curiosity, now you have my attention.
Absoludacrous
Member
If they can't share the DCUO server between the PS3 and PS4 then I can't see why it's even worth bothering with.
Cool..
Crimson_Gold
Member
Im sure it'll happen if there's enough of a push for it. Hopefully there are no techinical issues that would prevent that from happening
Well, I just realized I havent used kb/m controls in a decade...but PS2 is cool, its a big chunky sink your teeth into it version of what would happen if Battlefield and Warhawk spawned a baby that grew to be huge...or something.
I ran a dude over with my atv and then drove down a canyon that I didn't see coming...epic first 5 minutes.
I dig.
My laptop runs it nicely on low settings, and it looks good enough. Medium gets a little choppy.
I ran a dude over with my atv and then drove down a canyon that I didn't see coming...epic first 5 minutes.
I dig.
My laptop runs it nicely on low settings, and it looks good enough. Medium gets a little choppy.
Flops are pretty useless for comparisons across different architectures.
Also hinting at EQNext getting a port:
Yeah, Smed has been hinting at this for awhile now.
THANK FUCKING GOD!
Jesus, I was so disappointed by the "performance" patch in February, which literally did nothing to performance. In fact, it made it a bit worse.
FLOPS isn't the whole picture. In fact, it's barely part of the picture. A 3770k completely decimates an eight-core Jaguar in virtually every field. A high-end Phenom from 2008 is still quite a bit faster than the eight Jaguar cores.
To put it into perspective, we're comparing a CPU that powers netbooks and tablets vs. a CPU that powers high-end PC.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
More F2P! Good! As I said before, bundle that shit!!
Actually it has already been released on the PS3 as part of "The Orange Box". But I know what you mean. There should be a Free to Play version of "Team Fortress 2" on the PS4.
No, they arent.
He did say they would likely share the same servers:
I think they're just trying to avoid another situation where they tell everyone the servers are cross platform and then at the last second they pull the feature cause of something they didn't expect. Like what happened when they kept bringing up PC-PS3 cross platform DCUO servers before launch and then right before release they dropped it due to "business reasons".
Yes, they are. Flops don't tell the whole story, especially when it comes to CPUs. Flops can give you a sense of scale across the same architecture, but an architecture difference is much more relevant.
Its theoretical maximum performance, but how it will be used, its up to devs. Thats how both CPUs can be tapped and thats how they should be compared.
Architecture differences can make some algorithms run better on one hardware, than on the other, but this only means that its inefficient on one hardware and not using flops correctly, and need to be rewritten for other hardware to achieve same efficiency.
BTW Jaguar and i-series share the same instructions, so they are also comparable in terms of architecture.
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Yeah, because it has more flops.
If I'm not mistaken the PS3 version is still the beta version of TF2...
Neither console had enough RAM for the new weapons.
By that logic we should all be running GPUs for our CPUs since their flops dwarf any CPU.
DidntKnowJack
Member
So basically on launch day, you don't have to buy any games. Well, theoretically.
Play Planetside a lot on PC, but still excited for a PS4 version. The fact that everyone who owns a PS4 will have a mic will be great for teamwork (and hopefully not for 12 year olds who want to say bad things about my mother).
I understand PC and PS4 players not being able to play against each other, but I wonder if items previously bought on PC would be able to be used on the PS4... That'll be nice. Probably wishful thinking however.
I understand PC and PS4 players not being able to play against each other, but I wonder if items previously bought on PC would be able to be used on the PS4... That'll be nice. Probably wishful thinking however.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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And I've read plenty on the forums that suggest they are tired if people asking about performance improvements and it's still something they are working on, but not high priority. We'll just have to disagree on this one.
But the reality is that they have to develop for a wide range of PC configurations so that many people can play it. Don't underestimate the benefit of hardware being locked into a single configuration. I don't think anyone here is suggesting it will play better than the PC build, just that it will likely run surprisingly well.
Do you have any idea on what IPC is? As I said before, FLOPS isn't everything. I don't know why a lot of people on GAF has this mentality where FLOPS is the end-all spec when debating hardware performance.
no... just get some f2ps and download some demos.
after some months you get some cheap launch games
AranhaHunter
Banned
Day Z would be fantastic. Everquest is pretty certain too.
Not F2P, but Minecraft would also be great, especially since Mojang has hinted at it coming to ps platforms IIRC.
Yep 5 games already!!!
Since their logo was at the PS4 reveal I'm hopeful Day Z will make it.
I would LOVE Minecraft on vita, more so than the ps4 personally. Fingers crossed for both versions
Yes, theoretically we should and rendering technology is pursuing to it. The future of rendering is software rendering.
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Yes i know what IPC is and also thats how You count flops. Ivy/sandy bridge is capable of doing 16 operations in SP per cycle, where Jaguar can only 8, Haswell can do 32 with avx2.
There is no better way to compare processors than maximum theoretical performance. If You know better way, i'll gladly read it.
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DayZ wont be free to play.
DidntKnowJack
Member
I'm kind of amazed how many games have already been announced pre-E3. Not just f2p, but retail as well.
No, that was PC, of course. They filmed this a few days ago with my outfit and some others
I'm glad they've announced it's coming but I'm concerned about how this will end up panning out. This is an extremely heavily CPU bound game. The weak jaguar cores may mean they'll need to lower the playercount and thus segregate PC and console players, and splitting online communities is always detrimental to a game no matter in what fashion. As well as that, PS2 currently has 2gb+ updates (not necessarily additive the game has only grown 3gb since launch, to 12gb) delivered on a two week cadence and 40mb+ patches scattered throughout, will the PS network and console player base be accepting of that? The game is ever evolving and big new features are always being added. If that has to be restricted by the console then that would again be detrimental to the game. Hopefully they have answers at E3.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Is it safe to say that the PS4 will be the most supported system next-gen.
No cross platform servers means the game won't be using Station. They'll be using PSN for everything so you won't be able to transfer previously bought items over. The worst part of it though is they probably wont be as generous with the marketplace sales on the console side and there's no console equivalent to their crazy Double/Triple Station Cash weekends.
Ugh no. According to your logic (again) the move from CELL to Jaguar is a complete downgrade, since CELL or even 360's CPU are FLOPS monsters compared to Jaguars. FLOPS is a more relevant spec for GPUs than CPUs.
Jaguars are good at general purpose code (compared to PS3/360 CPUs), and that's why FLOPS-heavy CPUs were thrown out in favor of the Jaguar for the consoles.
This really is a huge strategy that's finally coming together for Sony. I mean Sony Computer Entertainment has always been putting out some quality things, and to now see full PS4 support from this Sony branch makes all that work worthwhile and really brings in a whole new slew of exclusive titles that weren't even being considered by the people thinking about console exclusives from previous gen.
Wow. Impressive. Not all code can be executed in parallel. Many parallel calculations (e.g. matrices) is where GPUs excel and FLOPS are more relevant. CPUs handle general purpose code where FLOPS aren't as relevant.
TheGuardian
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PS4 version uses PhysX?!
Even PS3 games use PhysX, there is a console version available for both PS3 and 360.