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Official NFL Offseason Thread: Come back NFL! Come... back...
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dskillzhtown said:
Well i didn't read the description, and don't live in Houston to recieve local reports. I assumed by the way that guys in the crowd were reaching for the money and how crisp the bills looked that they were $20s. $50s, & $100. People "make it rain" at clubs around here all the time, but usually just throw 1s and 5s...and only the females jump around and shit.
Any Chicago natives in the thread? I won't be in DC for the Redskins Draft Day Party 
as I'll be in the Windy City for a work conference. Wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a good bar/restaurant to go to to watch the draft for a few hours on Saturday. I'll be staying in the Millenium Loop area.
as I'll be in the Windy City for a work conference. Wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a good bar/restaurant to go to to watch the draft for a few hours on Saturday. I'll be staying in the Millenium Loop area.FrenchMovieTheme
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dwayne bowe won't slip to the giants. they might have a shot at dwayne jarrett but that's about it.
rumor is the niners are trying to acquire a 2nd first round pick
rumor is the niners are trying to acquire a 2nd first round pick
* hopes that Brady Quinn falls to the Redskins.
Supposedly the Dolphins are interested and would swap places and give us one of their second rounders for the move.
That would place the Skins are #9 and hopefully if Landry is there we'll grab him or if the Pats one him bad enough we'll swap places with them for one of their 1st round picks.... =) But that would take a lot of luck and a good front office.
I think we'll just take J. Anderson.
Supposedly the Dolphins are interested and would swap places and give us one of their second rounders for the move.
That would place the Skins are #9 and hopefully if Landry is there we'll grab him or if the Pats one him bad enough we'll swap places with them for one of their 1st round picks.... =) But that would take a lot of luck and a good front office.
I think we'll just take J. Anderson.
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SonnyBoy said:
MEEEH!
I want Jamal Anderson and apparently so do we:
I like him ALOT better than Carriker. I feel Anderson is a playmaker who would make an impact as opposed to Carriker who I think will just be a solid guy. Also remember that we were in talks with you guys about swapping picks. I can see a situation where we could move up to 6 and take either Landry or Anderson.. Skins would move down to 11 and selecting Okoye or Branch. I think if the Browns take Quinn Miami will sit where they are and grab Levi Brown. If Cleveland passes on Quinn he would likely fall to Miami anyway.
I think we'll have plenty of options to trade down if we want. Sadly my team didn't come to its senses last year and we're just trying to struggle for par at this point. Better late than never I suppose.
Hopefully we can inject some youth into this team for a change of pace and grow our own talent for once...
Hopefully we can inject some youth into this team for a change of pace and grow our own talent for once...
LiveWire said:
Actually, no. I believe that Gibbs went into this off season stating that the 2008 draft picks would be left entirely intact.
This was around the time that they mentioned a huge overhaul to the front office would take place after the draft.
Thankfully this will be the last year that we'll be ridiculed for losing differently than everyone else. Now we'll categorically be the same type of loser as 31 of of the other teams.
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Big Zep said:
screw peppers, i want damione lewis......oh wait :lol
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I thought this was kind of interesting...
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...apr22,0,807373.story?coll=bal-sports-football
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...apr22,0,807373.story?coll=bal-sports-football
In their mock draft portion, Todd Mcshay said Calvin Johnson would be taken number 2 whether its tampa, atlanta and he said now he is hearing that the new bidder is san fran at 11 to trade up. He said Atlanta and San Fran are more likely than TB. Then they put up a graphic about our offensive core (Alex, Gore, Vernon, Calvin)...
DO IT! I don't care about our future!
DO IT! I don't care about our future!
methodman said:In their mock draft portion, Todd Mcshay said Calvin Johnson would be taken number 2 whether its tampa, atlanta and he said now he is hearing that the new bidder is san fran at 11 to trade up. He said Atlanta and San Fran are more likely than TB. Then they put up a graphic about our offensive core (Alex, Gore, Vernon, Calvin)...
DO IT! I don't care about our future!
That would be an insane offensive lineup if true.
But who would you guys give up? As A Lions fan I would much rather make a trade for Atlanta's #1 and #2 then San Fran's, but I did hear something about the Niners having a ton of picks this year so maybe you could give up 3 picks for that #2.
Kastrioti said:
It seems like you guys are strongly going after Willis. The only way we'd be able to trade up and grab CJ from you is if Willis drops to 11 (or we trade up and grab him 8-10 pick). It can happen that way, but so many things have to fall in place for us: Who knows who Oakland is picking? We do have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds though.
Karakand said:
Bing isn't that great a cover guy. He got better but could've used another year in school.
He hits people hard though.
Karakand said:
He's also used to apathetic NorCal fans and losing to his rivals annually. He'd probably kill himself just listening to Randy Moss talk.
That's a nice move for the Rams in more ways than one if this was the 2005-2006 season coming up... I don't know if Dante is gonna have the legs for too much longer than another full season. Besides, he's not as good as a returner as he used to be (he's still thought to be a threat though so thats gotta be worth something).
What's with the Huff hate? It was his rookie year. I bet he'll have a breakout year this coming season.
The raiders have done a decent job on the defensive side the past couple of years. Thomas, Huff, Morrison, Washington and Asomugha.
We had a solid defensive lineup and most of them are young guys. The only gaps we had were one more OLB and Washington needed to be more consistant. We have pro bowl calibur players like Asomugha, Burgess, Sapp, and Morrison. For them to have done anything last year, let alone 3rd overall defense, with ZERO offense is a friggin' miracle.
If it were up to me, we'd take CJ with the first pick. Somtimes it's good to go with who the best player on the board is rather than your immediate needs. That said, the need for a qb might be dire if Walter can't step up at all. The Raiders haven't been the best at picking offense the last decade, though...the last 1st round skill position pick that I remember was Ricky Dudley, who was actually pretty good.
I predict cockyQuinn. :X
The raiders have done a decent job on the defensive side the past couple of years. Thomas, Huff, Morrison, Washington and Asomugha.
We had a solid defensive lineup and most of them are young guys. The only gaps we had were one more OLB and Washington needed to be more consistant. We have pro bowl calibur players like Asomugha, Burgess, Sapp, and Morrison. For them to have done anything last year, let alone 3rd overall defense, with ZERO offense is a friggin' miracle.
If it were up to me, we'd take CJ with the first pick. Somtimes it's good to go with who the best player on the board is rather than your immediate needs. That said, the need for a qb might be dire if Walter can't step up at all. The Raiders haven't been the best at picking offense the last decade, though...the last 1st round skill position pick that I remember was Ricky Dudley, who was actually pretty good.
I predict cockyQuinn. :X
Not all positions are equal when it comes to high picks. Asomugha didn't wow me at first but he was a late first rounder so it didn't bother me that much. Huff might very well turn into the guy I saw in week 11 on a regular basis, but picks that high aren't supposed to be project players*, especially when your offense is flat out disgusting.
As for the defense, it's definitely something good but the stats are more than a little skewed. They rarely led games and couldn't come back from deficits so teams just ran the ball down their throat to kill clock (and if you look at the run stats, they aren't that stellar). If / when the Raiders get an offense that's worthy of being called "professional" I bet those pass defense stats will drop off by a fair amount.
*excluding quarterbacks, of course
As for the defense, it's definitely something good but the stats are more than a little skewed. They rarely led games and couldn't come back from deficits so teams just ran the ball down their throat to kill clock (and if you look at the run stats, they aren't that stellar). If / when the Raiders get an offense that's worthy of being called "professional" I bet those pass defense stats will drop off by a fair amount.
*excluding quarterbacks, of course
soulja224466
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wow dante hall? now we just need some players to block for him in the return game.
damn i love linehans pro-active approach to making this team better. if we can still land jenkins holy shit!
damn i love linehans pro-active approach to making this team better. if we can still land jenkins holy shit!
teruterubozu
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Dante Hall yes!
Still doesn't solve the punting and kicking team woes, though.
I'm also not sure if these Ricky rumors are a good thing.
Still doesn't solve the punting and kicking team woes, though.
I'm also not sure if these Ricky rumors are a good thing.
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id like to have ricky, but we really dont need him. sjax is a complete back like marshall, he doesnt need to come out on 3rd downs.
plus you dont want steven looking over his shoulder like he was with marshall.
plus you dont want steven looking over his shoulder like he was with marshall.
They're skewed that way, but also think about how much time they had to spend on the field, how little we ran the ball. Dudes were out there all day.Karakand said:
I knew Asomugha had a lot of potential his first year when he kept demonstrating that he was learning from his mistakes really fast. Good lord I hope the Oline improves. :[ Can we go back in time and draft D'Brick somehow? :[
PantherLotus
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Hey guys, don't get too excited for Dante. He's a good kick returner, but that dude has no business being a receiver behind the greats that STL has. Last season I watched him cut back 5 yards on a 7-yard slant about 50 times. Infuriating.
And he's not exactly a tough-guy either. You can't put him over the middle. My mom is taller than him, so you can't exactly put him on the opposite side of Tory and think he'll be getting any jump balls going his way. So...he's not tough and can't go in the middle, he's not tall and can't go against legitimate CBs on the the deep patterns, and he cuts back like he's returning it (with nobody behind him) when he's freaking running a quick slant (THE WHOLE FREAKING POINT OF THE QUICK SLANT!).
So, the Chiefs got a 5th rounder and the Rams got a niche player on the decline.
Awesome!
And he's not exactly a tough-guy either. You can't put him over the middle. My mom is taller than him, so you can't exactly put him on the opposite side of Tory and think he'll be getting any jump balls going his way. So...he's not tough and can't go in the middle, he's not tall and can't go against legitimate CBs on the the deep patterns, and he cuts back like he's returning it (with nobody behind him) when he's freaking running a quick slant (THE WHOLE FREAKING POINT OF THE QUICK SLANT!).
So, the Chiefs got a 5th rounder and the Rams got a niche player on the decline.
Awesome!
PantherLotus
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Hey kara...how's it feel to be potentially dependent on the Trent Green trade to determine your draft pick? I'll bet that burns a little.
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PantherLotus said:
well sir, i do not believe linehan has any interest in using dante hall on offense. we've got holt, bruce, bennett, looker,mcmichal, and sjax....but maybe on trick plays? we just need somebody who can return the ball past the 30 every once in awhile :lol
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soulja224466 said:
Well it was a good trade then, but I was just hoping people would remain realistic. The first time you see him running backwards in the blue and gold, let me know how you feel.
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PantherLotus said:
did someone say PR running backwards?
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Tamanon said:
with the amount of carries he had last year, if history is anything to go by his legs will probably fall off by week 4. Plus, like Striker said, he's about due for a bigass contract. And while he's a great player, in the NFL one guy can't do it all and its just not worth having one great player making a ton of money while your team remains mediocre.
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