Repeat this to people you know. NO support for MS, or publisher who side with Microsoft!
#PS4NoDRM #XboxOneNoDRM || Now do you "Believe?"
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Repeat this to people you know. NO support for MS, or publisher who side with Microsoft!
Unknown One
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Perhaps just give up on Microsoft for now and take a different direction. Have the campaign inform people since most of them would not know either way.
Or buy a PS4 and a Wii U, how hard is that?
Got the Wii u, but I can see Sony allowing publishers to do the same as Microsoft are too.
Well Sony said there is no always-online requirement so a pub would have to make sure their game is always-on (somehow) to do this since the Xbox One used game system revolves entirely around the cloud/your license to the game/your license to the game being stored in the cloud where I assume the Xbox Live accounts are stored.
bigboss370
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i think thats the best we're hoping for though, Sony leaving it up to publishers. Instead of making it a system wide thing. Then we can just boycott those certain games whose pubs don't allow to sell used.
There are already psn games that lock you out on the same terms as xbone does. Like final fight.
If the system lets them do it, publishers will do it on ps4. Mark my words.
maquiladora
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Or buy a PS4 and a Wii U, how hard is that?
Yep, PC/PS4 (and probably Wii U) future for me.
yeah I remember that, typical Major Nelson PR bullshittery.
I didn't have any hope in X1 short of the execs simply being horrifically wrong, seems like that train's too far gone to stop.
PS4 though, we'll see. If the frustration felt online is kept and spreads it may be an opportunity for Sony to exploit, plus I doubt even in 10 years internet connectivity in some regions of the world they hope to sell to will be adequate enough.
PS4 though, we'll see. If the frustration felt online is kept and spreads it may be an opportunity for Sony to exploit, plus I doubt even in 10 years internet connectivity in some regions of the world they hope to sell to will be adequate enough.
Jawmuncher
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Sony you literally have this on a platter. I really hope you decide to say something at E3 about all this.
Krusenstern
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Agree, we should tweet that to some Sony executives. Would give them an interesting read.
Removed my green banner. MS is a lost cause know.
shinra-bansho
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Efforts should be redoubled towards #PS4NoDRM now really.
In truth I didn't expect Microsoft to change any plans in motion, which is why I was somewhat against the splitting of focus into what seemed like a futile exercise with Xbox One.
In truth I didn't expect Microsoft to change any plans in motion, which is why I was somewhat against the splitting of focus into what seemed like a futile exercise with Xbox One.
Cheesecakebobby
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I really don't expect much better from Sony seeing as they are one of the few companies using online passes. EA doesn't even use them any more.
quickfire13
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Don't know if there is any connection, but Nick Accordino (of Sony) tweeted this out earlier, strangely after the 'clarification' of Microsoft's policies...
https://twitter.com/Nikoro/status/342780976612663296
He links to a Parappa the Rapper video titled, 'Gotta Believe' and can be seen here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAYcFxf7Mxo
What do you guys think?
Note: Nick Accordino was also one of the Sony employees who responded to the first wave of #PS4noDRM:
'Humbled by the outpouring of passionate PlayStation fans and their willingness to talk to us directly. Please know that we hear you. <3'
https://twitter.com/Nikoro/status/342780976612663296
He links to a Parappa the Rapper video titled, 'Gotta Believe' and can be seen here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAYcFxf7Mxo
What do you guys think?
Note: Nick Accordino was also one of the Sony employees who responded to the first wave of #PS4noDRM:
'Humbled by the outpouring of passionate PlayStation fans and their willingness to talk to us directly. Please know that we hear you. <3'
Baller. PhD
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BELIEVE
Flightmare
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bigboss370
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famousmortimer where are you? Heard anything new about Sony policies?
If not, maybe make a new thread for another push?
If not, maybe make a new thread for another push?
Knux-Future
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we are all fucked
maquiladora
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I had to step out of the other thread. Anyone else feeling really stressed and angry now?
quickfire13
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I think we all are crossing our fingers on this one...
RedNumberFive
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MS failed us.
Save us Sony.
Save us Sony.
Krusenstern
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Pissed, because we targeted on MS too and it turned out they were a lost cause from the very beginning.
please Sony
Jacksonlee
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didn't sony say that used game thing is upto the publishers?
if MS came outright and said the same thing; what can sony do?
if they did develop their console with the publishers in mind - and the publishers demand that they can "control" the used physical copies,
what can sony do about it? :S
if MS came outright and said the same thing; what can sony do?
if they did develop their console with the publishers in mind - and the publishers demand that they can "control" the used physical copies,
what can sony do about it? :S
famousmortimer
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Not really, no. The general feeling from people who don't know anything specific is 'there will be something... but who knows how much.' But honestly, don't read much into that. This is just from people close to Sony... not from anyone who actually knows anything.
I am obviously extremely frustrated with MS's stance on DRM. Their system is completely non-sensical and feels arbitrary in a lot of ways. If Sony heads down this road also... I don't know what I'm going to do. I feel like I can walk away from the exclusives... even though Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch. SMS, Media Molecule and Evolution are some of my favorite studios around. The biggest hole in the PC lineup for me is sports games.... and even the Wii U aren't getting them anymore.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I am feeling angry yes. Especially at people being able to defend the recent news.
Hell, who can defend "You can watch TV, blu-rays, DVDs offline always but to play games you must be online once per 24 hours"? I mean how can you spin that.
If Sony did/does anything similar, I will react the same way.
I look forward to several things at the Xbox Ones launch:
Ebay, sellers who don't know any better trying to sell Xbox One used games
People who can't play a game because their internet has gone out and they are using their phone for the internet
any lawsuits in the EU over restricting where you can sell games (and possible price fixing since if MS takes a cut of every used game, that could force used games retailers to keep prices at a certain point to avoid losing too much profit)
If Sony does the same things, I won't buy their console either. Current gen, PC, WiiU it is. I can't and won't support these policies no matter who does them.
Jondoyle123
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Please Sony let the console work offline!!
Holly Caust
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It's over folks, the dream is dead.
M-maybe not owning your retail copies isn't so bad? r-right guys? heh......heh.....
famousmortimer
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We can do that... but honestly 'tons of tweets' tonight isn't going to do anything. Sony knows how we feel. We don't need to keep bashing them over the head with it.
After E3, if everything is dire, we will regroup and try to find a way to put pressure on them. It will probably have less to do with twitter and more to do with the media... but we will figure out something.
Knux-Future
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Yep.
All that confidence from last week?
Gone.
Sony's gonna follow and the moron in me will justify it because they will have some shiny new game I want or not be as fucked...but still fucked.
If Sony pisses in their own kool-aid, Nintendo better drop bombs tuesday then lol. They can turn this thing around.
famousmortimer
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The console definitely works offline, forever. Definitely. Take that to the bank.
If there is used game DRM it will be an offline tech.
Jondoyle123
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God US no internet but phone crowd need it to!
famousmortimer
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My educated guess from talking to a bunch of people - none of whom know any specifics, but are around Sony a lot - is that if Sony has something it won't be nearly as insane as what MS just showed.
But there's little things that can cause a lot of aggravation. Microsoft is basically saying "We let publishers decide whether not you can or can't sell your games and we decide where you can do that."
Even if Sony doesn't have the other stuff but they have the above... that's not acceptable. There's an awful lot wrong with MS's policy, but the dictating what customers can and can't do with physical media that really aggravates.
But there's little things that can cause a lot of aggravation. Microsoft is basically saying "We let publishers decide whether not you can or can't sell your games and we decide where you can do that."
Even if Sony doesn't have the other stuff but they have the above... that's not acceptable. There's an awful lot wrong with MS's policy, but the dictating what customers can and can't do with physical media that really aggravates.
xaosslug
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stuff like this not only lends well to the notion that #PS4NoDRM or used games policy, but that Sony will say something at their conference.
i mean, if after all this Sony has a similar initiative to MS'... that's pretty fucked up of Sony.
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