I think that's it precisely. Sweep it under the rug now before E3. They don't want to make a spectacle of it because, as you pointed out, there are no benefits to this system.
Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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I think that's it precisely. Sweep it under the rug now before E3. They don't want to make a spectacle of it because, as you pointed out, there are no benefits to this system.
Yeah this is extremely tragic. Games aren't throwaway items. I want them to last.
iamaustrian
Member
I still don't understand.
Let's say, in 10 years or so, MS decides to shut down the Xbone servers forever or drops out of console market. Does this mean that all the games you bought are pretty much useless then? can you even play them in that situation?
Let's say, in 10 years or so, MS decides to shut down the Xbone servers forever or drops out of console market. Does this mean that all the games you bought are pretty much useless then? can you even play them in that situation?
Most likely when Microsoft decides to shut down servers, they'll release a patch which will lift the online requirements.
One would hope so, at least.
Green Yoshi
Member
No, you have 24 hours left in that case. After that they are useless. ;-)
xaosslug
Member
LMAO, #oop
you can use your smartphone as a mobile hotspot.
im doing it all the time with friends at school.
it has data caps though but it just slows the speed down.
you could do the check and go back offline.
Gormless Noodle
Member
TB only agreed with the used games part I think, which is a position that's understandable i.e Gamestop really just doesn't deserve the money they get from the used games etc.
I don't agree with that personally due to various factors already talked about around here at great lengths, but I can see where it's coming from.
doniewhalberg
Member
I assumed that the last time Xbox *checked* was literally the last second you were online. So this would be more of an issue if you've had it off for a day, and your net happens to be down when you go to go on and it can't do it's check.
michaelius
Banned
Having hope is not exactly helpfull when we are speaking about thousands of dollars worth stuff.
Metalmurphy
Member
Monday you'll be saying hello to the PC
JrBaconCheeseburger
Member
Why would they release this now???? Is it an attempt to not have this as the center of attention on june 10TH ?
Why release this now ?
Why release this now ?
I must live in a different Australia then. Though even 1.5 would be plenty to ping drm servers.
ElectricBanquet
Member
Not to mention what happens if Microsoft's servers get hacked or Xbox Live is down for maintenance or it's Christmas day and the servers are overloaded. Even for someone who's internet connection is rock solid, buying into this kind of system requires trusting that Microsoft is going to keep things running smoothly on their end.
valve has the same thing so why is it impossible for microsoft ?
Marty Chinn
Member
HTPC doesn't have this restrictive DRM crap.
BobTheFork
Member
Ugh. I'd love some people to upvote my comment so see if he even responds.
ABSNX is the name.
It's basically what I spend the last two pages ranting about.
NoirVisage
Banned
If he's a PC centric Youtube personality, that's it really, those guys have had to deal with steam for so long, they welcome the console scape joining in the misery of a gaming hobby without the luxury of used games.
Anyone who thinks used game prices are not going to go up is fooling themselves. By forcing people to Trade in games to Gamestop instead of selling it to each other it forces the consumer to first get MUCH less money when selling a game and secondly it allows Gamestop to sell the used game at a much higher price. Right now you trade in a brand new game to Gamestop they will barely give you 20-30 dollars and then sell that used copy for $55 while the new one is $60. While you can sell that same game is selling on craigslist for $50.
This in turn will drive up the price for all New and Used games as the price will be controlled my MSFT, Publishers and Gamespot for ALL sales. Enjoyed buying new games at great discounts soon after they come out? Not gonna happen next gen.
This in turn will drive up the price for all New and Used games as the price will be controlled my MSFT, Publishers and Gamespot for ALL sales. Enjoyed buying new games at great discounts soon after they come out? Not gonna happen next gen.
so all the games they announce at E3 will, by their hope, drown it out and people will forget about it or at least care less. better do it now than closer to launch day
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Just saw this
Dumbest shit ever. Hope this console crashes and burns.
Dumbest shit ever. Hope this console crashes and burns.
zeopower6
Member
I kind of expect some group like Anonymous to be all over that once Xbox One launches just to prove a point. x_x
Plenty of 360-owners will still probably buy this though which is the saddest part of this whole situation.
JrBaconCheeseburger
Member
As stupid as this may sound , i do not think many gamers have the ability to resist and much less skip the xbox one altogether.
No matter how bullshit this may be.
No matter how bullshit this may be.
Sidewinder
Member
It's so sad, first time in my life I'm not excited about a next-gen console, good job MS, I hope you fall flat on your face with Xbone, you deserve it.
Pre Orth-gate I was one of those who believed that if MS does it, Sony almost certainly has to do it too if they don't want to lose some 3rd party support.
I hope I was wrong and Sony grabs MS by the balls taking this once in a lifetime opportunity and announces during their E3 press conference, that they won't suppress used sales and won't implement always-online DRM. After some of Sonys vague but somewhat positive comments about these problems, the incredible Twitter campaign and the reactions to it, I still hope for a miracle
If both chose poorly, I'll go with the WiiU and PC instead. What world do we live in, where we can't even be excited about a new generation of videogame consoles, WTF seriously??11!
Pre Orth-gate I was one of those who believed that if MS does it, Sony almost certainly has to do it too if they don't want to lose some 3rd party support.
I hope I was wrong and Sony grabs MS by the balls taking this once in a lifetime opportunity and announces during their E3 press conference, that they won't suppress used sales and won't implement always-online DRM. After some of Sonys vague but somewhat positive comments about these problems, the incredible Twitter campaign and the reactions to it, I still hope for a miracle
If both chose poorly, I'll go with the WiiU and PC instead. What world do we live in, where we can't even be excited about a new generation of videogame consoles, WTF seriously??11!
Green Yoshi
Member
Exactly. Kinect sold ten million times in the first 12 month so if Microsoft put enough money into marketing they will do fine.
NoirVisage
Banned
Another one, would it make your year if Sony went this route as well? I for one am holding out hope that they won't, and there's way nore pointing to them NOT going that route, then we ever got from MS.
lol ... so basically this is total spin. main take away is this .. only one person (you can label yrself a "family member" if you want) can be online at any one time playing a game from yr library.
as in ... if i'm online playing fifa ..... my brother can't be online on another xbone playing my copy of madden.
so really whats the point of even going to the trouble of specifying if this other account is me, or my aunt or whoever .... effectively i can do the same thing on ps3(s) right now by calling up my brother and giving him my psn password to use on his ps3 (ok so my trophy list etc will mine etc ...but meh ... )
Lynd7
Member
Yep, bricks for all! At least we can just simply throw them out when that happens. Totally worthless most likely.
Marty Chinn
Member
This is the sad and unfortunate reality. Sony could still lose to Microsoft despite everything we know so far. If people actually stood up to crap like this, we wouldn't be paying for Xbox Live Gold and a lot of the DLC wouldn't exist today.
Which makes a mockery of the whole fucking thing. Lol, seriously, what are they thinking.
Something wrong with this thread. I start to read the text but all I see is this:
Nice job junior. That's some top quality posting you got there. You sure did show all of them teenagers with all their whining!
Good show.
They are not going to listen if they are going to be making %10 of used game sales.....
SolidsnackooFoxhound
Banned
something fishy
Member
Having suffered online passes this improves things for me and my son in some games, we can share the whole game rather than one of us being locked out of online.
"We are listening, but won't change anything."
BobTheFork
Member
Having been alive before online passes, this is still shit.
He meant through Kinect.
I twitterd to Neelie Kroes a few minutes ago. I don't think that this kind of DRM is allowed according to European law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commissioner_for_Digital_Agenda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commissioner_for_Digital_Agenda
I have no idea who he is, and why people should be listening to him, but downvoted anyway
That got a good chuckle out of me.
Caayn
Member
That's great. But a friend of mine share our games, now with the X1 we can no longer do that. Not even singleplayer games. So Microsoft just switched the people that they're blocking.
Great idea. It is indeed against the current European laws, which state that every piece of software must be resellable without limits.
This will be the first time my decision to purchase a console--or not--will not be decided by the quality of the games on offer. It does not matter if Microsoft manages to secure 75% of all games releasing in the 1st year as "exclusives," I am not even considering this abomination as a potential purchase.
If Sony and Nintendo both take a similar stand, and are able to jointly control 50-70% of the market, should that not be enough to ensure that they get 3rd party support despite refusing to incorporate these atrocious measures.
If Sony and Nintendo both take a similar stand, and are able to jointly control 50-70% of the market, should that not be enough to ensure that they get 3rd party support despite refusing to incorporate these atrocious measures.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Wow. This is the comment that just made this whole thing hit me hard. B/S/T gaf isn't going to be the next gen. =/