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kittens
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I'm allowing myself to be excited until further notice from Sony, but it's definitely dampening my spirits a little. I am -- much to my surprise -- finding myself mostly excited for Nintendo's showing.
TEH FIANAL LOVDOWN. shufflemoveto the infooplace!
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Bravo.
Air Zombie Meat
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shit. cboat torpedoes the xbone. pretty damning.
TheDarkKnight774
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At the start of the year I planned on buying both new consoles at launch to go along with my Wii u and like I've done for years now (getting all consoles). Now not only is the Xbox one not on the list I'm now actively wanting it to fail. It's not even fanboyish reasons like favoring another company or justifying a one console purchase. I've owned all previous consoles and have been day on XBL gold.
I've never seen a console designed to be so....evil. Sure other consoles made bad decisions but this thing is something entirely different.
I hope soo much Sony provides a true alternative (they're doing great so far. Just need to go no pay online, no DRM nonsense) and the industry has a chance. Otherwise....I guess I'll work on my backlog :/
I've never seen a console designed to be so....evil. Sure other consoles made bad decisions but this thing is something entirely different.
I hope soo much Sony provides a true alternative (they're doing great so far. Just need to go no pay online, no DRM nonsense) and the industry has a chance. Otherwise....I guess I'll work on my backlog :/
Well, the initial tweets from several Sony execs were that they were listening and loved hearing from Sony fans. That prompted the #PS4NoDRM initiative.
Then there was a tweet from Yoshida that trolled people in the #PS4NoDRM initiative. He talked about the release of "DRM" or Death Ray Manta for the Vita, using that acronym. It appeared to be a troll in good spirits, and it would be really dickish to tweet something like that AND actually announce DRM, so some people took the tweet to be some degree of confirmation.
You know, I'm starting to think Activision isn't as evil as I thought. Oh they're still horrible, but they're more executive evil than EA's cartoon Snidley Whiplash evil.
Probably because they only have like 2 or 3 major games and they make MAD bank off them, that stuff like online passes or DRM wouldn't matter.
*sees All the President's Men post* This board is so amazing.
Probably because they only have like 2 or 3 major games and they make MAD bank off them, that stuff like online passes or DRM wouldn't matter.
*sees All the President's Men post* This board is so amazing.
famousmortimer
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He's gotten a lot of stuff right over the years. I think he's been defined.
But yes - this is a motherload.
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This is really amazing.
I think CBOAT meant he couldn't find out any information, not that there was no plan.
They've been going back and forth for a few years now. EA generally is worse though. They released two decent games and everyone seemed to forget, but they stayed evil.
This is great. Now we know for a fact MS is driving the DRM push, famousmortimer was right all along, and everyone on the mainstream news sites screaming "pubs are pushing for it and Sony's gonna do it too!" are full of shit. I feel vindicated, relieved, and angry.
Don't fuck this up Sony, Ninty can't hold up console gaming on its own.
Don't fuck this up Sony, Ninty can't hold up console gaming on its own.
BudokaiMR2
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I got it!
In an amazing shamaladingdong twist the only supported used games retailer is Gamestop.
And you only get a choice between gamestop credit or microsoft points. No Cash.
In an amazing shamaladingdong twist the only supported used games retailer is Gamestop.
And you only get a choice between gamestop credit or microsoft points. No Cash.
Dictator93
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I bow down to your greatness
famousmortimer
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Plenty of consoles have made plenty of money without this stupid bullshit that MS has introduced.
They are there to make money.
Sony could make A LOT of money with all the hardware sales from pissed MS customers.
They could stand to make a lot of money by giving us what we want.
It isn't like MS has been listening to their consumer base.
I wonder..what if as proelite says, even to install games you need a XBL gold membership? Even for SP only titles? LOL Would be funny...and sad at the same time
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Deleted member 80556
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Valve has proven that the best way of gaining money is by not fucking people over, and by pleasing them.
They have to be our friends if they want to make good money.
Uno Venova
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Whoa, i honestly (and i think I speak for most on the forum when i say this) thought they were my buddies.
See! I told you that argument was coming.
Aliquidmeri
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The software you're licensing is much more expensive on the XBone than Apple apps and many of the games available on steam. Nobody cares of they can't resell a $.99 app or $6 game.
If Sony decides to not mandate used game DRM, they're not doing it to be our friends. They're doing it to gain the consumer base that is currently miffed by the XBoxOne. It's up to them whether or not that demographic is worth it. Leaving it up to the publisher would be good enough for me, personally, because I can simply ignore those publishers' games.
TheDarkKnight774
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Of course. But any idiot can see this is an easy win to market and claim the console war in an instant. MS can't beat you in global presence, price of console, or specs. He'll IMO not even first party game lineups. You make this one last decision and the whole market is yours
It's not about being a friend, it's seeing that you'll make MORE money listening to the market and crushing your competition.
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kittens
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That's what I got out of it, too.
Uno Venova
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I honestly feel like I just took the red pill finding out that these companies aren't my friends.
DidntKnowJack
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At the very fucking least, I'm now convinced Sony is not going down the rabbit hole nearly as much as MS is. All this DRM nonsense is MS's idea. Theirs. Even if Sony does something with DRM, it ain't gonna be as bad as MS'.
Yeah. Younger gamers probably never heard of all the atrocious things EA did in the past. They have been terrible for more than 2 decades now. People need to read up on the list of great studios and video game franchises they have killed.
Ditto with all the terrible things that Microsoft have done, but that's another story....
KillerTravis
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Hopefully CBoaT doesn't get sued for prostitution or illegal possession of weapons.
But, if Sony comes out with, its up to the pubs, what then?
Isn't it the same shit?
That's the spirit!
Tallshortman
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Maybe the best part is that if the cloud was actually built primarily for DRM then it probably isn't nearly as advanced as some members think the magical cloud is in supporting local hardware run games.
No. You can actively choose to not buy from certain publishers.
famousmortimer
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Well, you can't really disregard the check in thing, that's huge.
And steam and Apple are digital. The Ps3 and 360 have the same DRM on their digital games and we are by and large totally ok with it. What we don't want is them doing that to physical media. That's where people start getting angry.
Uno Venova
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Red Blaster
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then people will skip games by these asshole publishers
Thats fine. Microsoft however approached the pubs. Thats being a cunt.
But what if ALL the big pubs choose to have always online DRM.
What the hell is left?
Anticitizen One
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but ive bought some programs on the Mac app store for $30 and I've had to have spent at least $200 on Steam. What happens if Valve goes out of business or wants to get out of the retail side one day?
Neuromancer
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I thought if I bought a PS4 Mark Cerny and Shuhei Yoshida would call me up and take me out to a sushi dinner and we could all laugh and talk and drink sake and chase girls together. =(
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